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Posted by The Silence on Sun Nov 29 19:30:30 2015, in response to Railfan vandals at it again!, posted by priya12 on Sun Nov 29 19:22:49 2015. I was just thinking about these little SoBs the other day and how nice it was I hadn't heard hide nor hair of them... |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Nov 29 19:40:42 2015, in response to Railfan vandals at it again!, posted by priya12 on Sun Nov 29 19:22:49 2015. It would help to see photos of them. Do you have their mug shots? |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Nov 29 19:59:27 2015, in response to Re: Railfan vandals at it again!, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Nov 29 19:40:42 2015. IAWTP. |
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Posted by MTA T on Sun Nov 29 22:18:11 2015, in response to Re: Railfan vandals at it again!, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Nov 29 19:40:42 2015. https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003879953638&fref=tshttps://www.facebook.com/Nightmare403?fref=ts https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100009227842661&fref=ts Another vandal named Kevin Satchell deactivated for now. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Nov 29 23:44:42 2015, in response to Re: Railfan vandals at it again!, posted by MTA T on Sun Nov 29 22:18:11 2015. Not before the MTA got a hold of his page and put out a bulletin though. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Nov 30 00:03:42 2015, in response to Re: Railfan vandals at it again!, posted by MTA T on Sun Nov 29 22:18:11 2015. Thanks. |
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Posted by CJ on Mon Nov 30 01:12:39 2015, in response to Re: Railfan vandals at it again!, posted by MTA T on Sun Nov 29 22:18:11 2015. Even though he deactivated his account, it takes Facebook 14 days or so to actually do it.Even if he requested his account be deleted it will still be on Facebook's database, so he's screwed no matter what he does. |
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Posted by MTA T on Mon Nov 30 03:23:28 2015, in response to Re: Railfan vandals at it again!, posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Nov 29 23:44:42 2015. Lol.Lololol. Lolololololololol. |
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Posted by chud1 on Mon Nov 30 05:33:37 2015, in response to Railfan vandals at it again!, posted by priya12 on Sun Nov 29 19:22:49 2015. crucify them.chud1. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Nov 30 07:04:30 2015, in response to Re: Railfan vandals at it again!, posted by chud1 on Mon Nov 30 05:33:37 2015. Those punks give a new meaning the word "a**hole" Tampering or destruction of public property is totally wrong. |
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Posted by Dave on Mon Nov 30 07:12:23 2015, in response to Railfan vandals at it again!, posted by priya12 on Sun Nov 29 19:22:49 2015. Big Papi is a railfan vandal? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Nov 30 07:24:35 2015, in response to Re: Railfan vandals at it again!, posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Nov 30 07:04:30 2015. But Chuck, how do you know if the story posted in the OP is even true? |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Mon Nov 30 07:27:04 2015, in response to Railfan vandals at it again!, posted by priya12 on Sun Nov 29 19:22:49 2015. I wouldn't even call these people "railfans". Instead, I would call them "criminals, with a predilection towards harming the subway".They may have an intimate knowledge of the subway, but if they truly loved it the way most of us do, they would treat it with reverence. This is (albeit at a lower scale of evil) like raping a woman and calling it a "date". Yes, you know the mechanical aspects- but you have no love in your heart. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Mon Nov 30 07:29:29 2015, in response to Re: Railfan vandals at it again!, posted by MainR3664 on Mon Nov 30 07:27:04 2015. Bear in mind that I'm not convicting any specific person of any specific act here. Just meant to say that IF they did this, they are criminals, not true railfans. |
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Posted by Jace on Mon Nov 30 09:49:11 2015, in response to Re: Railfan vandals at it again!, posted by MainR3664 on Mon Nov 30 07:27:04 2015. Changing signs on a lay-up equals rape?!? What then would you call it when someone takes a bell or a builder's plate or a whistle or a headlight off a locomotive (active or otherwise)? |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Mon Nov 30 14:06:20 2015, in response to Re: Railfan vandals at it again!, posted by Jace on Mon Nov 30 09:49:11 2015. Ok. Not that. But how about people who really vandalize stuff- and call themselves "railfans"? |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Nov 30 17:03:07 2015, in response to Re: Railfan vandals at it again!, posted by Jace on Mon Nov 30 09:49:11 2015. Breaking and Entering,Trespassing Interfering with the operation of a Railroad. There are some years of jail time which they *should* get. That first dude looks like a good guy, appears to be attending a college and all, Him should know better, and if he does not then lock him up, but that would also be another good life down the drain. Better to make them scrape gum off of the subway platforms. ROAR |
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Posted by ren on Tue Dec 1 06:04:56 2015, in response to Re: Railfan vandals at it again!, posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Nov 30 17:03:07 2015. Here is a video of young Mr. Satchell, self-recorded by him, activating the emergency brake on R-160 car 8484, courtesy of Facebook:https://www.facebook.com/nycfoamer/videos/980120985399183/ |
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Posted by ren on Tue Dec 1 06:19:57 2015, in response to Re: Railfan vandals at it again!, posted by ren on Tue Dec 1 06:04:56 2015. Here is a direct one-click link to the video of Satchell activating the train's emergency brake. Can anyone tell where this is?<script>(function(d, s, id) { var js, fjs = d.getElementsByTagName(s)[0]; if (d.getElementById(id)) return; js = d.createElement(s); js.id = id; js.src = "//connect.facebook.net/en_US/sdk.js#xfbml=1&version=v2.3"; fjs.parentNode.insertBefore(js, fjs);}(document, 'script', 'facebook-jssdk')); Posted by NYC Foamer on Sunday, November 29, 2015 |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Dec 1 08:53:41 2015, in response to Re: Railfan vandals at it again!, posted by ren on Tue Dec 1 06:04:56 2015. LOL @ his Facebook username. He's a day late and a dollar short. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Dec 1 11:21:53 2015, in response to Re: Railfan vandals at it again!, posted by ren on Tue Dec 1 06:04:56 2015. Put him in jail. |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Dec 2 02:36:44 2015, in response to Re: Railfan vandals at it again!, posted by ren on Tue Dec 1 06:19:57 2015. Scripts not permitted. |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Dec 2 02:37:20 2015, in response to Re: Railfan vandals at it again!, posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Nov 30 17:03:07 2015. That first dude looks like a good guy, appears to be attending a college and all...Why? Is he white? |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Dec 2 02:41:39 2015, in response to Re: Railfan vandals at it again!, posted by Jace on Mon Nov 30 09:49:11 2015. Changing signs on a lay-up equals rape?!? That's not how analogies work. Trespassing on a lay-up is to railfanning as rape is to dating in that in both pairs, the former is a crime crudely masquerading as the latter by way of sharing a few mechanical aspects while being completely different in all meaningful respects. That is, these people may say they like trains but they actually enjoy breaking trains in much the same way that a rapist may say he loves his victim(s) but actually enjoys hurting them. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Dec 2 07:55:14 2015, in response to Re: Railfan vandals at it again!, posted by Nilet on Wed Dec 2 02:37:20 2015. Maybe I was looking at the wrong picture. The guy *I* was looking at was black.ROAR |
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Posted by Jace on Wed Dec 2 08:46:18 2015, in response to Re: Railfan vandals at it again!, posted by Nilet on Wed Dec 2 02:41:39 2015. If breaking into a lay-up equals rape, what then does stealing parts off equipment equate to? Consider this question as both an insider (railfan) and as an outsider. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Dec 2 17:35:19 2015, in response to Railfan vandals at it again!, posted by priya12 on Sun Nov 29 19:22:49 2015. Any self-professed railfan who vandalizes is no railfan—I'm presuming they call themselves railfans. And if they're damaging trains, they are potentially terrorists. |
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Posted by chud1 on Wed Dec 2 18:02:00 2015, in response to Re: Vandals at it again!, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Dec 2 17:35:19 2015. IAWTP!chud1. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Dec 3 09:50:12 2015, in response to Re: Railfan vandals at it again!, posted by Jace on Wed Dec 2 08:46:18 2015. If breaking into a lay-up equals rape...It doesn't. The relationship between breaking into a lay-up and railfanning is analogous to the relationship between rape and dating in one respect. The relationship between stealing parts off equipment and railfanning is analogous to the relationship between rape and dating in exactly the same way— the former is a crime crudely masquerading as the latter by way of sharing a few mechanical aspects while being completely different in every way that matters. |
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Posted by N6 Limited on Thu Dec 3 10:23:41 2015, in response to Railfan vandals at it again!, posted by priya12 on Sun Nov 29 19:22:49 2015. Why is it that they say "Calling at" for station stops in the UK? |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Thu Dec 3 10:24:09 2015, in response to Re: Railfan vandals at it again!, posted by Nilet on Thu Dec 3 09:50:12 2015. Well Said.ROAR |
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Posted by N6 Limited on Thu Dec 3 10:25:55 2015, in response to Re: Railfan vandals at it again!, posted by N6 Limited on Thu Dec 3 10:23:41 2015. ignore. I replied instead of creating new thread. |
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Posted by Jace on Thu Dec 3 12:54:14 2015, in response to Re: Railfan vandals at it again!, posted by Nilet on Thu Dec 3 09:50:12 2015. One train is happy that you were sensitive enough to take its picture and maybe lift some of its historically most important parts, the other unhappy that you broke in and changed a roll sign. Only trains don't have emotions nor do they provide consent.There are a lot of risky and legally questionable things about this hobby when looked at from the outside. I'd bet that you and everyone else on this board has trespassed on more than one occasion often despite knowing that you were in fact trespassing. Most have also climbed on equipment, maybe snuck into a cab or two. I and several other people I know operated trains, passenger and freight, as a teenager - sometimes with people on board but with the ok from a friendly employee. I know railfans who wrote graffiti, others who went down into the tunnels to explore. They all wanted to be around trains in one form or fashion and now all of them are in the rail industry. I'm not questioning anyone's motivation. You on the other hand seem to know that the motivation of these kids is to 'hurt' trains. How do you know this? You disagree with their actions, ok, say that you disagree but don't make presumptions about motivations. |
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