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Re: Dorothy Kilgallen

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 24 00:49:41 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen, posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Tue Nov 24 00:30:34 2015.

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Andy's Gang ... and yes, along with being an inspiration for Heypaul, Froggy is what eventually made subchat the way it is too. Moo. :)

But before Andy Devine took over, it was Smilin' Ed.



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Re: Dorothy Kilgallen

Posted by PegLegGuy on Tue Nov 24 05:32:09 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 24 00:49:41 2015.

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Nobody mentioned Midnight the Cat.

He played violin.

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Re: Dorothy Kilgallen

Posted by PegLegGuy on Tue Nov 24 05:40:14 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen, posted by PegLegGuy on Tue Nov 24 05:32:09 2015.

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Midnight the Cat:

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Midnight+the+Cat



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Re: Dorothy Kilgallen

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 24 05:51:44 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen, posted by PegLegGuy on Tue Nov 24 05:32:09 2015.

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Poorly. :)



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Froggy the Gremlin......Re: Dorothy Kilgallen

Posted by heypaul on Tue Nov 24 07:01:28 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 24 00:49:41 2015.

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Yes, Froggy the Gremlin was the formative influence during my brief stunted period of intellectual development.

Froggy the Gremln

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Re: Froggy the Gremlin......Re: Dorothy Kilgallen

Posted by heypaul on Tue Nov 24 07:11:16 2015, in response to Froggy the Gremlin......Re: Dorothy Kilgallen, posted by heypaul on Tue Nov 24 07:01:28 2015.

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There's a Froggy the Gremlin website.

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Re: Froggy the Gremlin......Re: Dorothy Kilgallen

Posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Tue Nov 24 08:31:26 2015, in response to Re: Froggy the Gremlin......Re: Dorothy Kilgallen, posted by heypaul on Tue Nov 24 07:11:16 2015.

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Isn't Froggy a poster on this site?

Larry, RedbirdR33

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Re: Dorothy Kilgallen

Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Nov 24 09:12:06 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 23 22:33:54 2015.

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Good post.

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Re: Dorothy Kilgallen

Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Nov 24 09:12:20 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 23 22:34:18 2015.

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Re: Dorothy Kilgallen - Atlantic Av/Avenue elevator

Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Nov 24 09:13:24 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen - Atlantic Av/Avenue elevator, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Nov 23 20:22:48 2015.

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Doesn't sound like it would be that preposterous to me. So that's why it's not a joke.

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Re: Dorothy Kilgallen - Atlantic Av/Avenue elevator

Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Nov 24 09:15:58 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen - Atlantic Av/Avenue elevator, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Nov 23 20:26:03 2015.

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No you didn't explain anything.
Yes I did.

You indicated that they either aren't real friends or are so stupid they can't realize that I am always or usually wrong in your opinion.
Correct. See, you understand my explanation. You just don't want to accept reality.

I have plenty of real friends
Good!

and I would say all or almost all of them are more intelligent than you are.
Probably not, since they aren't recognizing how wrong you almost always are. And how do you know how intelligent I am anyhow? If you're going on what I post here, then your logical conclusion would be that I am quite intelligent, or at least I know how to appear to be quite intelligent.

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Re: Froggy the Gremlin......Re: Dorothy Kilgallen

Posted by heypaul on Tue Nov 24 09:55:27 2015, in response to Re: Froggy the Gremlin......Re: Dorothy Kilgallen, posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Tue Nov 24 08:31:26 2015.

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Yes Larry, Froggy is a very regular poster here as well as several of the authorities he used to torment.

Froggy vs. Authorities

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Re: Dorothy Kilgallen

Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Nov 24 10:15:53 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 23 22:33:54 2015.

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"Where did I say anything about warning or changing behavior?

pre·mon·i·to·ry [pri-mon-i-tawr-ee, -tohr-ee]
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1. giving premonition; serving to warn beforehand.

I brought up UFOs because of your statement that there is an explanation for everything and then in the same breath you added that if there isn't an explanation, that is the purpose of science to find an explanation. That is a contradictory statement. Either there is an explanation for everything or there isn't.

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Re: Dorothy Kilgallen

Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Nov 24 10:16:40 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen, posted by northshore on Mon Nov 23 22:42:27 2015.

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I am surprised you didn't know that.

To Terrapin. Yes that is a joke.

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Re: Dorothy Kilgallen

Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Nov 24 10:17:49 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 23 22:34:18 2015.

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Did they serve jail time?

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Re: Dorothy Kilgallen - Atlantic Av/Avenue elevator

Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Nov 24 10:20:15 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen - Atlantic Av/Avenue elevator, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Nov 24 09:13:24 2015.

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This sounds like a possibility to you?


Posted by fdtutf on Wed Nov 18 22:06:47 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen - Atlantic Av/Avenue elevator, posted by northshore on Wed Nov 18 21:38:00 2015.

She was killed there and her body was taken back to her apartment and arranged in such a way that it would look like an overdose. Everybody knows that!

You need more help than I thought.


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Re: Dorothy Kilgallen - Atlantic Av/Avenue elevator

Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Nov 24 10:28:42 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen - Atlantic Av/Avenue elevator, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Nov 24 09:15:58 2015.

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If I go by what you post here, my conclusion as well as the conclusion of many others would be that you are a complete idiot, always looking to provoke unnecessary arguments by constantly provoking everyone which is why there were numerous posts seeking to get you permanently banned from this site.

An example would be your statement that my friends are not real friends and that you are more intelligent than they are which you couldn't even possibly know since you have not met or spoken to them.

Fortunately for you, people I speak to who have personally met you tell me you are nothing like your Internet personna.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Nov 24 10:35:26 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 23 22:35:36 2015.

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I never stated that. That was your interpretation.

But the fact is that I did have one dream that did predict a situation, of course not exactly. I was extra cautious because of the warning in my dream and prevented consequences that would have been very inconvenient for myself and two friends. Funny, neither of them thought my actions were illogical and they were both very thankful because of the warning.

I won't go into details unless you ask.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Nov 24 10:40:56 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 23 22:42:35 2015.

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Where is your source that younger people tend to be more non-religious? What I have seen is that people generally tend to get more non-religious as they get older and then return to religion again later in life.

And your conclusion that if you raised the cutoff age to 25, the percentage who believe in creation would get higher directly opposes the study data that increased education greatly reduces the belief in creation, because education can increase with age but if course doesn't have to.

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Re: Dorothy Kilgallen

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 24 10:43:46 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Nov 24 10:15:53 2015.

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The definition is broad enough that it doesn’t require that the premonition be a warning.

And it still says nothing about changing behavior.

I think we’re using a different meaning of “explainable.” Something can still be “explainable” even if the explanation is unknown to everyone.

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Re: Dorothy Kilgallen

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 24 10:44:54 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Nov 24 10:15:53 2015.

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And, of course, on looking back, you are twisting my words because I used “explainable” and you decided to use “is/isn’t an explanation.” But that’s the only way you can argue.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Nov 24 10:45:08 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 23 22:44:46 2015.

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That is really stretching it. Fifty is a younger age than sixty, but taken by itself no one would consider fifty "youth" and you weren't talking in any context.

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Re: Dorothy Kilgallen

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 24 10:48:08 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Nov 24 10:17:49 2015.

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Yes, some did.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Nov 24 10:48:40 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Nov 19 12:22:08 2015.

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I was talking about you. And you still haven't explained your point about someone being born five minutes ago not being fifty or how that is relevant.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Nov 24 10:49:10 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Nov 19 13:24:35 2015.

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See my post above. The reference was to you.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 24 10:51:47 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Nov 24 10:35:26 2015.

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You cited those dreams as an example of unexplained phenomena. I said that dreams are completely explained phenomena and posed some possible explanations. In retrospect, I should have just dismissed your beliefs outright and not come up with any hypotheses.

I could ask, but I don’t think it would be a good idea for you to share personal stories on a public board, and since I will not be convinced that your dreams were premonitory, it won’t matter anyway.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 24 10:56:57 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Nov 24 10:40:56 2015.

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http://www.pewforum.org/2010/02/17/religion-among-the-millennials/

It doesn’t contradict that, because the effect of greater education could be mitigated by the effect of greater religiosity. Or something else.

In fact, here’s an example:

http://www.pewforum.org/2013/12/30/publics-views-on-human-evolution/

Belief in evolution consistently drops with each older age group.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 24 10:57:29 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Nov 24 10:45:08 2015.

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I know better than you what I was thinking.

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Re: Dorothy Kilgallen

Posted by SLRT on Tue Nov 24 11:02:44 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen, posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Tue Nov 24 00:24:46 2015.

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Buffalo Bob was really done to earth. He toured college campuses in the late '60s and make pot jokes.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 24 11:04:47 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Nov 16 11:53:34 2015.

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I must have missed this the first time around:

1. So what?

2. It’s in the subject line and you wrote the subject line. WTF is wrong with you?

3. It is not obviously clear. Just like it’s not obviously clear that you believe that Dorothy Kilgallen was killed in the Atlantic Avenue elevator.*


*Since that is almost certainly going to confuse you, I will point out at this point that I know that you didn’t take that post seriously.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 24 11:06:47 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Nov 24 10:48:40 2015.

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That is relevant because you said “even if he is old enough to remember it.” I just posted that, if you knew nothing else about him, and wanted to guess, you should guess that he’s not old enough. I posted this because for some reason you thought that his posting here for a long time implied that he was old enough to remember.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 24 11:07:50 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Nov 24 10:49:10 2015.

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You said “let him speak for himself” in a response to me. Whom were you talking about?

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by AlM on Tue Nov 24 11:31:05 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 24 10:56:57 2015.

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Belief in evolution consistently drops with each older age group.

That's encouraging. Us old idiots are dying off. :)




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Re: Froggy the Gremlin......Re: Dorothy Kilgallen

Posted by jan k. lorenzen on Tue Nov 24 11:42:38 2015, in response to Froggy the Gremlin......Re: Dorothy Kilgallen, posted by heypaul on Tue Nov 24 07:01:28 2015.

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Froggie was also a feature of my early teenage years watching late night grade D horror movies hosted by Cleveland's The Ghoul. Froggie didn't make out all too well during those skits. My parents did not approve. Plenty of 70's vintage video on youtubers.

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Re: Dorothy Kilgallen - Atlantic Av/Avenue elevator

Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Nov 24 13:01:54 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen - Atlantic Av/Avenue elevator, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Nov 24 10:20:15 2015.

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Why is that any more preposterous than the other conspiracy theories you were floating? No one has ever been killed somewhere else and then moved to their final resting place? No one has ever been killed in such a way to make it look like an overdose?

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Re: Dorothy Kilgallen - Atlantic Av/Avenue elevator

Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Nov 24 13:15:49 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen - Atlantic Av/Avenue elevator, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Nov 24 10:28:42 2015.

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If I go by what you post here, my conclusion as well as the conclusion of many others
Such as? Name names.

would be that you are a complete idiot, always looking to provoke unnecessary arguments by constantly provoking everyone
Wrong. I'm hardly ever "looking to provoke unnecessary arguments by constantly provoking everyone". But even if you were right, which you're not, why is provoking arguments and intelligence mutually exclusive? Why can't you be intelligent and still provoke arguments? In fact, I'd argue that many people who provoke arguments ARE quite intelligent, as they are asking questions and questioning the crap being fed to them by clueless people.

which is why there were numerous posts seeking to get you permanently banned from this site.
Take a look at who posted these numerous posts. Not exactly pillars of society, are they? That should tell you something. Now look at all the people who support me, or at the very least, stay silent. Quite a few non-degenerates. That should tell you something.

An example would be your statement that my friends are not real friends and that you are more intelligent than they are which you couldn't even possibly know since you have not met or spoken to them.
No no no no no, you're not playing fair. The original statement, IIRC, was that possible reasons why your friends don't think you are wrong is that they are wither not your real friends or that they are not very intelligent. I never compared myself to them UNTIL you said that YOUR FRIENDS were more intelligent than me. Nice try. But you fail. You're guilty of exactly what you falsely accused me of.

Fortunately for you, people I speak to who have personally met you tell me you are nothing like your Internet personna.
Why does that make any difference?

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Re: Dorothy Kilgallen

Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Nov 24 13:16:46 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 24 10:44:54 2015.

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Agreed.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Nov 24 13:30:05 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Nov 16 11:53:34 2015.

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Fact 3. It is obviously clear R 36 was unaware of the 1965 blackout. The reason is unimportant.
No it's not. And has been explained to you many times, it's quite likely he DID know about it.

R36 stated that the northeast blackout occurred in August not November and 12 years ago, not 50. Therefore he had to be unaware of any previous northeast blackout.
No, that's NOT what he said. Let's try this: what if he considers the 1965 blackout to be "a blackout" but he considers the 2003 blackout to be "the big northeast blackout"? (The reason is unimportant, as you say.) Then what he wrote makes perfect sense. So since I showed a scenario where what he wrote makes perfect sense, then it's clear that some doubt exists.

Having encountered previous blackout threads is also irrelevant because he could have temporarily forgot and made a hasty posting without thinking.
Just like he could have not forgotten and not made a hasty post without thinking and knew full well about the 1965 blackout and knew full well what he was doing. Therefore, since both options are possible, DOUBT EXISTS. That said, the reasoning for why he probably knew about 1965 is much stronger than the reasoning for why he may not have known about 1965. We've shown that.

Anyway I do not see him responding that he was aware of the 1965 blackout.
Probably because he's enjoying this and wants to see you squirm more.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Nov 24 13:44:02 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Nov 16 19:24:58 2015.

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So what am I making up?
What he said.

He is directly disputing what I stated.
Obviously. You said that the big northeast blackout happened 50 years ago, and he said that no, it happened 12 years ago. For the same reason your post was not wrong, neither is his post. You were only talking about the 1965 blackout. He was only talking about the 2003 blackout. If your original post had said: "There was a blackout 50 years ago today" and he had replied: "No, it was 12 years ago August" then he would have been wrong. But that's not what happened. I already told you the most likely scenario. He was lighting ribbing you for the ignorance you displayed in the phrasing of your subject line. It's a common tactic used here and elsewhere on the internet. Most people are able to spot it and understand it. You, OTOH, apparently have no concept of it.

So again I ask you what shit am I making up?
What he said.

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Re: Dorothy Kilgallen

Posted by SLRT on Tue Nov 24 13:46:24 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen, posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Tue Nov 24 00:26:08 2015.

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I liked the poet Percy Dovetonsils but of course that wasn't Howdy Doody.

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Re: Dorothy Kilgallen

Posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Nov 24 13:48:42 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen, posted by SLRT on Tue Nov 24 13:46:24 2015.

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Ernie Kovacs was a comedic genius for his time, IMHO. I have some of his shows on DVD, which I copied from a VCR tape.

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Re: Dorothy Kilgallen

Posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Nov 24 13:57:34 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen, posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Nov 24 13:48:42 2015.

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Kovacs

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Re: Dorothy Kilgallen

Posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Tue Nov 24 14:48:16 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen, posted by SLRT on Sun Nov 22 11:33:25 2015.

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I did like Princess Summer Fall Winter Spring never did find out her real name, my friend and I were in the peanut gallery and Clarabell did some real funny stuff. Karl

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Re: Dorothy Kilgallen

Posted by SLRT on Tue Nov 24 15:40:09 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen, posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Tue Nov 24 14:48:16 2015.

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I don't think I was never in the Peanut Gallery for the Howdy Doody show but I was in the kiddy section of shows on WATV like Junior Frolics and whatever station the Pat Michael show was on.

In those days it was also easy to get tickets to New York game shows that had live audiences.

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Re: Froggy the Gremlin......Re: Dorothy Kilgallen

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 24 16:57:12 2015, in response to Re: Froggy the Gremlin......Re: Dorothy Kilgallen, posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Tue Nov 24 08:31:26 2015.

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Froggy is the system administrator over on OTchat. :)

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Re: Dorothy Kilgallen

Posted by Lou From Middletown NY on Tue Nov 24 17:29:50 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen, posted by SLRT on Tue Nov 24 11:02:44 2015.

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I'm too young to remember all of this! By the time I was seriously watching afterschool TV,the hosts were disappearing, and there were more cartoons like the Japanese Astroboy, the 8th Man, Marine Boy, and best of all, Gigantor! They all had cool theme songs, too!

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Re: Dorothy Kilgallen

Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Nov 24 19:51:09 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 24 10:43:46 2015.

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Providing warning is part of the definition so I thought that isw hat you were referring to.

You are the one who brought up changing behavior not me.

If the explanation is not known, it is not explainable. No one said anything about something being known to everyone. Nothing is ever known to everyone. You keep bringing up stuff that is irrelevant to the conversation.

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Re: Dorothy Kilgallen

Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Nov 24 19:55:09 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 24 10:44:54 2015.

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I am not twisting any of your words. You brought up the term "explainable and also talked about "explanations". I was merely responding.

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Re: Dorothy Kilgallen

Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Nov 24 19:56:07 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 24 10:48:08 2015.

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Re: Dorothy Kilgallen

Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Nov 24 19:56:07 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 24 10:48:08 2015.

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