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Posted by Joe V on Fri Aug 28 17:54:04 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening on Trip Planner, posted by merrick1 on Fri Aug 28 17:49:09 2015. One stop beyond BMT at 168th to out do them ? |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Aug 28 18:01:10 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening on Trip Planner, posted by merrick1 on Fri Aug 28 17:49:09 2015. When I look at some of the construction history of all of the NYCTS lines, I often wonder why certain locations were chosen for terminals. Since it was planned to extend the IND past that point, 179 St probably seemed as good a place as any for a “temporary” terminal. Another odd location is Euclid Ave. The main drag in that location is Crescent St which has (or had) stations on 2 BMT el lines in the are and the original terminal for the Fulton St el was Grant Av one station past Euclid so why Euclid? Who knows? |
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Posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Fri Aug 28 18:40:11 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening on Trip Planner, posted by Joe V on Fri Aug 28 17:54:04 2015. Again, thanks for that info you sent me via E-Mail. I never tire of learning all I can about the NY Subway. I haven't been in New York since 2011 and that means when I do come again I will ride those Southern Division lines to near exhaustion. |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Fri Aug 28 18:56:59 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening on Trip Planner, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Wed Aug 26 15:30:55 2015. AMNY used Trip Planner as a source in a story about the 7 line Extension opening in today's paper, I wonder if they got it from this post...... |
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Posted by VictorM on Fri Aug 28 21:15:53 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening on Trip Planner, posted by merrick1 on Fri Aug 28 17:49:09 2015. I think it was partly to reduce bus congestion in the Jamaica central business district by having some buses from eastern Queens terminate at 179 St instead of 169 St or Merrick Blvd. Also they needed that elaborate double deck relay structure to handle both E and F trains at rush hour headways. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Aug 28 22:02:52 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening on Trip Planner, posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Fri Aug 28 18:40:11 2015. Fred! Great to have you back. Your favorite line is finally going to get rehabbed. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Aug 28 22:15:59 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening on Trip Planner, posted by randyo on Fri Aug 28 14:40:33 2015. IIRC they built the Nostrand Ave. line as far as they could with the funds that were at hand. The fact that Flatbush Ave. has side platforms makes it obvious that that line was intended to continue further. |
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Posted by K. Trout on Fri Aug 28 22:51:07 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening on Trip Planner, posted by randyo on Fri Aug 28 18:01:10 2015. Maybe Euclid was due to geometry. A mainline station at Pitkin and Grant would require much sharper connections from the mainline and yard to the branch.Why Crescent St instead of Euclid Av? Why is Pitkin Yard where it is? Who knows. Perhaps Conduit Ave wasn't finalized (I think some parts opened in 1940) so the IND chose a more conservative alignment. |
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Posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Fri Aug 28 23:04:37 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening on Trip Planner, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Aug 28 22:02:52 2015. Thanks for the greeting Steve---and as far as the Sea Beach being rehabbed, I think it is about time. Don't you? |
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Posted by b1bus on Fri Aug 28 23:56:58 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening, posted by italianstallion on Mon Jul 20 14:37:29 2015. about 1pm.. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Aug 29 16:12:01 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening on Trip Planner, posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Fri Aug 28 23:04:37 2015. You bet. Those stations are really long in the tooth right now. |
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Posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Sat Aug 29 19:00:26 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening on Trip Planner, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Aug 29 16:12:01 2015. They remind me of Tokyo and Berlin in 1945. Disgraceful that they could let one of their signature lines go to seed like that, and you do know that when the Sea Beach was launched on June 22, 1915 the idea of an open cut, open air subway was considered something new and novel. Well I guess better late than never. I still think that of the Southern Division Lines the Brighton is still the apple of the Transit Division but that is only my opinion. |
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Posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Sat Aug 29 21:03:47 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening, posted by b1bus on Fri Aug 28 23:56:58 2015. huh? |
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Posted by Kevin from Midwood on Sat Aug 29 22:09:26 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening, posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Sat Aug 29 21:03:47 2015. @MTA: "34 St-Hudson Yards 7 Line station opens for service September 13 at approximately 1 p.m." |
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Posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Sun Aug 30 00:41:15 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Sat Aug 29 22:09:26 2015. I know all about that. I'm asking what he was talking about in the context of the post he was replying to. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Aug 30 14:29:40 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening on Trip Planner, posted by K. Trout on Fri Aug 28 22:51:07 2015. The geometry issue makes sense, but why a little known street like Euclid instead of the better known Crescent St? |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Aug 30 14:33:59 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening on Trip Planner, posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Sat Aug 29 19:00:26 2015. I can’t say that an open air subway was new or novel since that is the way the original London underground lines were built. |
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Posted by Kevin from Midwood on Sun Aug 30 14:44:41 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening, posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Sun Aug 30 00:41:15 2015. I know all about that.Why did you keep the information to yourself when you could have posted it here? |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Aug 30 15:11:57 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening on Trip Planner, posted by randyo on Sun Aug 30 14:33:59 2015. London's open cut lines were roofed over for the most part, with open vents to dissipate the smoke from steam locomotives in use then. The Sea Beach and open cut portion of the Brighton were never roofed over. I'm sure there was no intention of doing so, either. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Aug 30 15:14:12 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening on Trip Planner, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Aug 30 15:11:57 2015. While the Sea Beach and open cut portions of the Brighton Line were not roofed over in the true sense, there are several places along both lines with short tunnel portions to allow streets to cross overhead. |
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Posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Sun Aug 30 16:43:47 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Sun Aug 30 14:44:41 2015. Because one's post is always referring to the context of the subthread it is part of unless stated otherwise. |
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Posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Sun Aug 30 16:51:59 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening on Trip Planner, posted by randyo on Sun Aug 30 15:14:12 2015. But London had that too before they roofed over their cuts, did they not? |
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Posted by milantram on Sun Aug 30 17:42:32 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening, posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Sat Aug 29 21:03:47 2015. Figure it out yourself. You're always trying to get others to do their own research when you could post a simple answer, yet now you're too lazy to go back to the previous posts--all three of them in this subthread. You can't have it both ways, Brian. |
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Posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Sun Aug 30 18:35:06 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening, posted by milantram on Sun Aug 30 17:42:32 2015. Figure it out yourself.Figure what out? You're always trying to get others to do their own research when you could post a simple answer, yet now you're too lazy to go back to the previous posts--all three of them in this subthread.I know all about that. I'm asking what he was talking about in the context of the post he was replying to. You should read all the responses in the subthread before making your own response. |
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Posted by milantram on Sun Aug 30 19:19:29 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening, posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Sun Aug 30 18:35:06 2015. I did. Northshore began the thread, italianstallion responded (beginning the subthread), and b1bus responded to him. That's where you put in your "Huh?". Doesn't get any simpler than that. Or maybe you got confused by the facts. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Aug 30 19:32:50 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening on Trip Planner, posted by randyo on Sun Aug 30 15:14:12 2015. And Fred loves those tunnel portions. Right, Fred?:) |
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Posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Sun Aug 30 20:18:43 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening on Trip Planner, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Aug 30 19:32:50 2015. Right Steve, that's one of my favorite things about the Sea Beach. As for the streets above, those tunnels allow those avenues to allow traffic to pass without lights or traffic jams. As for the London subways, I rode them and those open cuts don't even seem like them since they are roofed over and almost seem like the trains run underground. |
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Posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Sun Aug 30 20:47:32 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening, posted by milantram on Sun Aug 30 19:19:29 2015. Nope. You totally misunderstand. Someone else already asked the same thing you did. I provided a link to it for you. If you had read all the responses first you would have seen that and then you wouldn't have had to make your post because I had already answered the question you wanted to ask. |
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Posted by milantram on Sun Aug 30 21:31:30 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening, posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Sun Aug 30 20:47:32 2015. I'm aware of all that. I just wanted to rattle your cage. |
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Posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Sun Aug 30 23:15:55 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening, posted by milantram on Sun Aug 30 21:31:30 2015. No you're not. Because then you wouldn't have said what you said, making yourself look dumb. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Aug 31 16:39:06 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening on Trip Planner, posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Sun Aug 30 16:51:59 2015. Now that you mention it, I think so. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Aug 31 16:40:46 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening on Trip Planner, posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Sun Aug 30 20:18:43 2015. As Terrapin alluded to, now that I think about it, I don’t think those portions were entirely roofed over initially, but at a later date after the lines were electrified. |
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Posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Mon Aug 31 21:05:38 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening on Trip Planner, posted by randyo on Mon Aug 31 16:39:06 2015. Thanks. |
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Posted by b1bus on Tue Sep 1 21:00:14 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening, posted by b1bus on Fri Aug 28 23:56:58 2015. I posted the time of 1pm because some people mighth speculate Midnight. |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Tue Sep 1 21:08:04 2015, in response to 7 Line Extension Opening, posted by northshore on Mon Jul 20 14:23:05 2015. I'm wondering how much ridership there's going to be until Hudson Yards is more fully developed. Service to the Javits Center doesn't matter too much due to its obsolescence. |
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Posted by Union Tpke on Tue Sep 1 21:12:26 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening on Trip Planner, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Wed Aug 26 15:30:55 2015. When will the station open for passengers to enter? |
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