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470 Foot Towet next to Culver in Coney

Posted by SLRT on Thu Aug 13 09:42:21 2015

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I've just had a "Mother-in-Law Going Over a Cliff in my new Cadillac" moment.

A 470-foot residential tower is to go up at 532 Neptune Avenue, adjacent to the Neptune Avenue Culver station.

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The good news: The renderings show it as facing the Culver, so it will be edge-on to the water, and not as dominant as if the long side faced the ocean; this may increase business on the F train and encourage more Coney service; it will be upscale, and Coney badly needs that; it is well north of the amusement area and beach.

The bad news: It will dominate the skyline of Coney Island; it will be there--I don't trust developers.

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Re: 470 Foot Towet next to Culver in Coney

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Thu Aug 13 11:31:56 2015, in response to 470 Foot Towet next to Culver in Coney, posted by SLRT on Thu Aug 13 09:42:21 2015.

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I guess it will be where the parking lot is now?



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Re: 470 Foot Towet next to Culver in Coney

Posted by SLRT on Thu Aug 13 11:43:50 2015, in response to Re: 470 Foot Towet next to Culver in Coney, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Thu Aug 13 11:31:56 2015.

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"No Street View available."

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Re: 470 Foot Towet next to Culver in Coney

Posted by Dave on Thu Aug 13 12:20:31 2015, in response to Re: 470 Foot Towet next to Culver in Coney, posted by SLRT on Thu Aug 13 11:43:50 2015.

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I had no problem seeing the street view.

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Re: 470 Foot Towet next to Culver in Coney

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 13 13:41:24 2015, in response to Re: 470 Foot Towet next to Culver in Coney, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Thu Aug 13 11:31:56 2015.

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No. Other side of Neptune.

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Re: 470 Foot Towet next to Culver in Coney

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Thu Aug 13 14:47:39 2015, in response to Re: 470 Foot Towet next to Culver in Coney, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 13 13:41:24 2015.

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OK. So I guess the Walgreens goes away?



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Re: 470 Foot Towet next to Culver in Coney

Posted by SLRT on Thu Aug 13 16:22:05 2015, in response to Re: 470 Foot Towet next to Culver in Coney, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Thu Aug 13 14:47:39 2015.

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I think the whole shopping center goes away.

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Re: 470 Foot Towet next to Culver in Coney

Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Thu Aug 13 17:00:12 2015, in response to 470 Foot Towet next to Culver in Coney, posted by SLRT on Thu Aug 13 09:42:21 2015.

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The bad news: It will dominate the skyline of Coney Island; it will be there--I don't trust developers.

Why is that a problem?

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Re: 470 Foot Towet next to Culver in Coney

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Thu Aug 13 22:14:50 2015, in response to Re: 470 Foot Towet next to Culver in Coney, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Thu Aug 13 14:47:39 2015.

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Interesting. Well, on the top floors there will be some great views. Coney Island, the ocean, Verrazano Bridge, WTC. Of course not all of those from one single apartment.

Oh yeah, CIY and my alma mater, which has now fallen upon hard times, John Dewey HS :(


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Re: 470 Foot Towet next to Culver in Coney

Posted by SLRT on Fri Aug 14 11:31:08 2015, in response to Re: 470 Foot Towet next to Culver in Coney, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Thu Aug 13 22:14:50 2015.

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I imagine theyre building it edge-on to the ocean so almost all apartments will have an ocean view. Albeit oblique.

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Re: 470 Foot Tower next to Culver in Coney

Posted by Dan on Sat Aug 15 16:19:07 2015, in response to Re: 470 Foot Towet next to Culver in Coney, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Thu Aug 13 17:00:12 2015.

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If a few more of these large scale apartment buildings are constructed along the Culver the MTA will have to consider restoring 'F' express service. This building alone could add 1000 riders to the 'F'.

http://newyorkyimby.com/2015/08/revealed-532-neptune-avenue-coney-islands-future-tallest-building.html




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Re: 470 Foot Tower next to Culver in Coney

Posted by Kevin from Midwood on Fri Nov 18 18:15:59 2016, in response to 470 Foot Towet next to Culver in Coney, posted by SLRT on Thu Aug 13 09:42:21 2015.

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It's less glassy in the latest, updated renderings.



There's more here, here, and here.

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Re: 470 Foot Tower next to Culver in Coney

Posted by GojiMet86 on Fri Nov 18 19:31:06 2016, in response to Re: 470 Foot Tower next to Culver in Coney, posted by Dan on Sat Aug 15 16:19:07 2015.

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It's going to look like Queensboro Plaza for a while. Then as time goes on, it will change.

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Re: 470 Foot Tower next to Culver in Coney

Posted by Kevin from Midwood on Fri Dec 17 23:39:57 2021, in response to 470 Foot Towet next to Culver in Coney, posted by SLRT on Thu Aug 13 09:42:21 2015.

I don't trust developers.

I don't either—to get much of anything done on time, that is. Especially outside the core of Manhattan, and even more especially in southern Brooklyn.

Six years later: Cammeby’s Reveals New Three-Tower Plan for 532 Neptune in Coney Island

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Re: 470 Foot Towet next to Culver in Coney

Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Sat Dec 18 10:52:04 2021, in response to 470 Foot Towet next to Culver in Coney, posted by SLRT on Thu Aug 13 09:42:21 2015.



The bad news: It will dominate the skyline of Coney Island; it will be there--I don't trust developers.

I couldn't agree with you more. I rode the Flushing Line the other day and saw that huge tennis structure that towers over the park.

Larry, RedbirdR33

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Re: 470 Foot Tower next to Culver in Coney

Posted by Keeping the RAPID in Rapid Transit on Sat Dec 18 14:14:06 2021, in response to Re: 470 Foot Tower next to Culver in Coney, posted by Dan on Sat Aug 15 16:19:07 2015.

'If a few more of these large-scale apartment buildings are constructed along the Culver the MTA will have to consider restoring 'F' express service. This building alone could add 1000 riders to the 'F'.'

Are you a rider on the F? The limitations of the terminal capacity preclude additional service to Stillwell Av (that's why alternate F trains end at Kings Highway). 1,000 additional riders = one more train at the most. I'm not understanding this obsession/wishful thinking for express service along the Culver - the level of ridership doesn't warrant it.

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Re: 470 Foot Tower next to Culver in Coney

Posted by Joe V on Sat Dec 18 14:48:14 2021, in response to Re: 470 Foot Tower next to Culver in Coney, posted by Keeping the RAPID in Rapid Transit on Sat Dec 18 14:14:06 2021.

If 524 apartments, 1,000 new subway commuters is a bit of a stretch.

In any case, some could just as well walk to W8th Street and take The Brighton line. Once on the Q train, choose between the 6th Avenue (B) Brighton Express, or Broadway line (stay on the Q).

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Re: 470 Foot Tower next to Culver in Coney

Posted by Joe on Sat Dec 18 20:17:25 2021, in response to Re: 470 Foot Tower next to Culver in Coney, posted by Joe V on Sat Dec 18 14:48:14 2021.

I am not in a market for a new apartment, but will those on the east side see Montauk Point?

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Re: 470 Foot Tower next to Culver in Coney

Posted by VictorM on Sat Dec 18 23:18:16 2021, in response to Re: 470 Foot Tower next to Culver in Coney, posted by Joe on Sat Dec 18 20:17:25 2021.

No, Montauk Point is about 115 miles from Coney Island. The distance to the horizon from a top of 470 foot tower is only about 25 miles. Besides, that plan is from five years ago. The latest plan replaces the 470 foot tower with three much shorter towers.

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Re: 470 Foot Tower next to Culver in Coney

Posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Dec 19 01:37:20 2021, in response to Re: 470 Foot Tower next to Culver in Coney, posted by Joe on Sat Dec 18 20:17:25 2021.

Will they see the water tower at Jones Beach?

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[PHOTO] Re: 470 Foot Towet next to Culver in Coney

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Dec 19 09:29:05 2021, in response to 470 Foot Towet next to Culver in Coney, posted by SLRT on Thu Aug 13 09:42:21 2015.

Is this where Brighton Laundry was/ is ? (Oct 1978)
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Re: 470 Foot Tower next to Culver in Coney

Posted by Peter Rosa on Sun Dec 19 12:21:01 2021, in response to Re: 470 Foot Tower next to Culver in Coney, posted by VictorM on Sat Dec 18 23:18:16 2021.

No, Montauk Point is about 115 miles from Coney Island. The distance to the horizon from a top of 470 foot tower is only about 25 miles.

The longest sightline ever photographed is 275 miles, from a mountaintop in the Pyrenees Mountains of Spain to a peak in the French Alps near the Swiss border. There's a theoretical one of 335 miles between two mountains in China and Kyrgyzstan (now that's a hard name to spell!), but it's never been photographed.

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Re: 470 Foot Tower next to Culver in Coney

Posted by jabrams on Sun Dec 19 16:33:36 2021, in response to Re: 470 Foot Tower next to Culver in Coney, posted by Peter Rosa on Sun Dec 19 12:21:01 2021.

On a clear day, how far can you see from the 102nd floor of the Empire State Building, or the vobservation desk from the World Financial Center (1400 feet or so).

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Re: 470 Foot Tower next to Culver in Coney

Posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Dec 19 17:16:48 2021, in response to Re: 470 Foot Tower next to Culver in Coney, posted by jabrams on Sun Dec 19 16:33:36 2021.

Maybe 45 miles?

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Re: 470 Foot Tower next to Culver in Coney

Posted by Peter Rosa on Sun Dec 19 19:20:12 2021, in response to Re: 470 Foot Tower next to Culver in Coney, posted by jabrams on Sun Dec 19 16:33:36 2021.

On a clear day, how far can you see from the 102nd floor of the Empire State Building, or the observation desk from the World Financial Center (1400 feet or so).

Under perfect atmospheric conditions you're supposed to be able to see into Massachusetts from both points. Most likely that would be Mt. Washington in the southwest corner of the state.


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Re: 470 Foot Tower next to Culver in Coney

Posted by VictorM on Sun Dec 19 20:58:09 2021, in response to Re: 470 Foot Tower next to Culver in Coney, posted by jabrams on Sun Dec 19 16:33:36 2021.

The distance to the sea level horizon from both the Empire State and the WTC is 45 miles; however, on a perfectly clear day (which occurs only 2 or 3 days a year), you can see the tops of some of the Catskill mountains 90 miles away.

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Re: 470 Foot Tower next to Culver in Coney

Posted by Dan on Tue Dec 21 17:49:32 2021, in response to Re: 470 Foot Tower next to Culver in Coney, posted by Joe V on Sat Dec 18 14:48:14 2021.

A lot has changed since 2016. Forget my F express idea. Most of the tenants in these buildings will be happily Working From Home anyway.

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