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Re: R32s Staying until 2022

Posted by randyo on Sat Aug 15 16:27:11 2015, in response to Re: R32s Staying until 2022, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Aug 15 15:49:58 2015.

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Correct, but the truck frames are original.

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Re: R32s Staying until 2022

Posted by davesgcr on Sat Aug 15 16:53:01 2015, in response to Re: R32s Staying until 2022, posted by milantram on Tue Aug 11 10:15:39 2015.

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Excellent news
- bit like the 1972 stock on the Bakerloo line in London seemingly statyng on for ever ..love the them to bits , really soft seats andyou can (if carefully seated) - watch the air brake gauges as the Train Operator drives and brakes...

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Re: R32s Staying until 2022

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Aug 15 17:30:40 2015, in response to Re: R32s Staying until 2022, posted by randyo on Fri Aug 14 16:38:27 2015.

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I was once told that the life expectancy of the R32 was 35 - 40 years because the frames and trucks suffer from metal fatigue. Even afterba complete overhaul, the car frames and truck frames would be original. Were they reinforced or could these cars be less safe?

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Re: R32s Staying until 2022

Posted by rockparklocal on Sun Aug 16 00:00:13 2015, in response to Re: R32s Staying until 2022, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Aug 15 17:30:40 2015.

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They should consider having the R32s return with blue doors and a light blue seating interior. I am tired of that tin can look. Then people wouldn't mind. Or maybe just advertisement something different.

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Re: R32s Staying until 2022

Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Aug 16 01:45:33 2015, in response to Re: R32s Staying until 2022, posted by rockparklocal on Sun Aug 16 00:00:13 2015.

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If any money at all is to be spent, getting rid of the cyclops eye and having a decent rectangular flat screen which can properly display a route symbol legible from a far.

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Re: R32s Staying until 2022

Posted by R30A on Sun Aug 16 03:57:31 2015, in response to Re: R32s Staying until 2022, posted by randyo on Sat Aug 15 16:27:11 2015.

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Not necessarily, but not in the way one would think. Looking at the truck numbers on R32s, you can tell that they were from any car class R10 to R42. Look up the numbers sometime!

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Re: R32s Staying until 2022

Posted by Joe V on Sun Aug 16 08:22:33 2015, in response to Re: R32s Staying until 2022, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Aug 16 01:45:33 2015.

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You could not tell and E from an F until it was on top of you.

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Re: R32s Staying until 2022

Posted by Joe V on Sun Aug 16 08:24:28 2015, in response to Re: R32s Staying until 2022, posted by randyo on Sat Aug 15 16:25:24 2015.

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On the J line at Cresecent Street the other day, I saw an R32 sticker on an R42 board. That has got to be wrong.

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Re: R32s Staying until 2022

Posted by Joe V on Sun Aug 16 08:25:23 2015, in response to Re: R32s Staying until 2022, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Aug 15 10:16:06 2015.

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Amtrak has still has Budd diners going back to 1948.

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Re: R32s Staying until 2022

Posted by Joe V on Sun Aug 16 08:26:17 2015, in response to Re: R32s Staying until 2022, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Aug 15 16:21:18 2015.

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Yes. They put them out of ENY.


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Re: R32s Staying until 2022

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sun Aug 16 10:14:23 2015, in response to Re: R32s Staying until 2022, posted by Joe V on Sun Aug 16 08:24:28 2015.

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The Cpnductor operating an R32 would use the R160 boards, wouldn't they?

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Re: R32s Staying until 2022

Posted by Joe V on Sun Aug 16 11:29:37 2015, in response to Re: R32s Staying until 2022, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sun Aug 16 10:14:23 2015.

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Yes.

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Re: R32s Staying until 2022

Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Aug 16 13:50:14 2015, in response to Re: R32s Staying until 2022, posted by Joe V on Sun Aug 16 08:22:33 2015.

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Exactly. The ONE really rider friendly feature of the otherwise terrible Slant R40s was the original giant route sign with the very important colorfield. You instantly knew either to move toward or away from the platform edge.

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Re: R32s Staying until 2022

Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Aug 16 13:51:42 2015, in response to Re: R32s Staying until 2022, posted by Joe V on Sun Aug 16 08:25:23 2015.

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yes and VIA runs mid fifties Budd built sleepers, diners, coaches etc.

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Re: R32s Staying until 2022

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Aug 16 14:09:18 2015, in response to Re: R32s Staying until 2022, posted by Andrew Saucci on Sat Aug 15 16:06:43 2015.

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I think the MTA wants to replace the old equipment ASAP. After the R212's are in service, believe it or not, the original R62's will be reaching the end of their useful lives. The MTA is committed to procuring new cars for the next 30 years. Adding another 10 to the R32's lives doesn't really help.

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Re: R32s Staying until 2022

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sun Aug 16 14:12:34 2015, in response to Re: R32s Staying until 2022, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Aug 16 13:51:42 2015.

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Do you think that the stresses placed on a VIA railcar, riding on soft roadbed are anywhere near as taxing on the frames as the sharp curves and hard concrete roadbed of the subways?

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Re: R32s Staying until 2022

Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Aug 16 14:33:04 2015, in response to Re: R32s Staying until 2022, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sun Aug 16 14:12:34 2015.

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I don't have an opinion, but I would note that simple temerature extremes in Canada would have some effects too.

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Re: R32s Staying until 2022

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Aug 16 19:31:49 2015, in response to Re: R32s Staying until 2022, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sun Aug 16 14:12:34 2015.

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That is an excellent point.

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Re: R32s Staying until 2022

Posted by VictorM on Sun Aug 16 19:33:42 2015, in response to Re: R32s Staying until 2022, posted by Joe V on Sun Aug 16 08:24:28 2015.

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Believe it or not, they make the CR on an R32 J work between the 5th and 6th cars (Manhattan end), not in the middle between the 4th and 5th cars even though there are CR controls there, apparently to make it consistent with the R42.

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Re: R32s Staying until 2022

Posted by R2Chinatown on Sun Aug 16 20:29:02 2015, in response to Re: R32s Staying until 2022, posted by VictorM on Sun Aug 16 19:33:42 2015.

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That makes sense in a bizarre sort of way.

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Re: R32s Staying until 2022

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Mon Aug 17 09:56:55 2015, in response to Re: R32s Staying until 2022, posted by VictorM on Sun Aug 16 19:33:42 2015.

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Who knows, maybe the C/Rs prefer to work the blind end cabs (not that that would make any difference to MTA).

Maybe it's a matter of, SMEE, work 5/6. NTT, work 4/5.

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Re: R32s Staying until 2022

Posted by randyo on Mon Aug 17 13:55:43 2015, in response to Re: R32s Staying until 2022, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Aug 16 19:31:49 2015.

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Well, the even lighter weight PCC trucks on CTA cars seem to have been able to handle the concrete roadbed of the State and Dearborn subways OK.

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Re: R32s Staying until 2022

Posted by randyo on Mon Aug 17 13:56:31 2015, in response to Re: R32s Staying until 2022, posted by VictorM on Sun Aug 16 19:33:42 2015.

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Stupidity of TA management!!!

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Re: R32s Staying until 2022

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Aug 18 10:33:48 2015, in response to Re: R32s Staying until 2022, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Mon Aug 10 16:41:42 2015.

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Even Moe would say, "Oy vay!"

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Re: R32s Staying until 2022

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Aug 18 10:41:56 2015, in response to Re: R32s Staying until 2022, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Aug 16 01:45:33 2015.

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Bring back the blue doors and front end route and destination signs!

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Re: R32s Staying until 2022

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Aug 18 10:45:54 2015, in response to Re: R32s Staying until 2022, posted by randyo on Tue Aug 11 13:02:56 2015.

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And don't forget the Jamaica Yard Crisis 49 years ago. A group of condemned BMT standards received a last-minute stay of execution when 32 R-16s were sent over with fresh GG signs to combat the problem of R-1/9s dropping like flies. There weren't enough R-38s on hand yet, as deliveries were crippled by a strike at SLCC.

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Re: R32s Staying until 2022

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Aug 18 10:48:31 2015, in response to Re: R32s Staying until 2022, posted by randyo on Mon Aug 17 13:56:31 2015.

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The Three Stooges could do a better job!

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Re: R32s Staying until 2022

Posted by Joe V on Tue Aug 18 11:02:28 2015, in response to Re: R32s Staying until 2022, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Aug 18 10:45:54 2015.

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I thought it was 40 R16's, but OK.

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Re: R32s Staying until 2022

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Aug 18 19:57:30 2015, in response to Re: R32s Staying until 2022, posted by Joe V on Tue Aug 18 11:02:28 2015.

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I read it was 32. I don't know exactly how many BMT standards were yanked off the scrapline; it might have been 20. They went right back to revenue service once the S for Scrap had been painted over.

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Re: R32s Staying until 2022

Posted by Avid Reader on Tue Aug 18 20:54:08 2015, in response to Re: R32s Staying until 2022, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Aug 11 13:21:01 2015.

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I'd like to see the R-11 take the inaugural run as it was supposed to. I think.

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Re: R32s Staying until 2022

Posted by Union Tpke on Tue Aug 18 21:00:02 2015, in response to Re: R32s Staying until 2022, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Aug 11 13:21:01 2015.

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That would mean RFW for SAS. That would be amazing.

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Re: R32s Staying until 2022

Posted by Joe V on Wed Aug 19 07:25:10 2015, in response to Re: R32s Staying until 2022, posted by Avid Reader on Tue Aug 18 20:54:08 2015.

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It could MU with a bunch of R32's and do so.

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Re: R32s Staying until 2022

Posted by UTC Bus Roster on Wed Aug 19 08:12:58 2015, in response to Re: R32s Staying until 2022, posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Aug 14 07:20:25 2015.

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Only 3594/95 still exist. They were reportedly moved to the Fire Dept.'s fire school when they were reefing the other 8 (3880/81, 3892/93, 3934/35 & 3936/37). It wold be nice to see that pair saved for the transit museum.

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Re: R32s Staying until 2022

Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Aug 19 08:21:46 2015, in response to Re: R32s Staying until 2022, posted by UTC Bus Roster on Wed Aug 19 08:12:58 2015.

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Tin soldiers and Nixon coming,
We're finally on our own.
This summer I hear the drumming,
Four dead in Ohio.

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Re: R32s Staying until 2022

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Aug 19 09:33:38 2015, in response to Re: R32s Staying until 2022, posted by UTC Bus Roster on Wed Aug 19 08:12:58 2015.

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Thank you for the information

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