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Posted by pragmatist on Wed Jul 29 16:44:59 2015, in response to Windows 10, posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Jul 29 15:52:37 2015. Thank you, someone has to be at the front of the pride. Hope it lives up to its hype. If we don't hear from you for a while we will know what happened. |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Wed Jul 29 17:39:58 2015, in response to Windows 10, posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Jul 29 15:52:37 2015. I've been doing the insider thing, and I love it.I'd highly recommend win10 on a 64 bit. I usually only upgrade after something falls apart, but for this one, I think I'll keep it until 2023, or whenever the service period expires. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 29 17:53:06 2015, in response to Re: Windows 10, posted by orange blossom special on Wed Jul 29 17:39:58 2015. 
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Posted by pragmatist on Wed Jul 29 17:57:18 2015, in response to Re: Windows 10, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 29 17:53:06 2015. Left out "Me" although I guess most would argue that Millennium Edition was forgettable. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 29 17:59:11 2015, in response to Re: Windows 10, posted by pragmatist on Wed Jul 29 17:57:18 2015. And then some. Yeah, did that horror show too. :) |
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Posted by The Silence on Wed Jul 29 18:45:41 2015, in response to Re: Windows 10, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 29 17:53:06 2015. there are valid ways to count to "10" besides what you're used to.for example |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Wed Jul 29 18:50:33 2015, in response to Windows 10, posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Jul 29 15:52:37 2015. The subway tunnel doesn't count. It is nothing more than a transparent attempt to throw us off and make it appear that your thread is on the appropriate board when clearly it is not anyone can see that. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 29 19:01:00 2015, in response to Re: Windows 10, posted by The Silence on Wed Jul 29 18:45:41 2015. And fortunately for us all, 12's were officially adopted! :).jpg)
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Jul 29 19:46:08 2015, in response to Windows 10, posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Jul 29 15:52:37 2015. Why was 9 skipped? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 29 19:48:34 2015, in response to Re: Windows 10, posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Jul 29 19:46:08 2015. Excel spreadsheet screwed up the math. :) |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Wed Jul 29 19:50:46 2015, in response to Re: Windows 10, posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Jul 29 19:46:08 2015. Why was 9 skipped? |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Wed Jul 29 20:17:22 2015, in response to Re: Windows 10, posted by pragmatist on Wed Jul 29 16:44:59 2015. it seem to work well so far, and reacts fast only problem I had was network card driver . |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Jul 29 20:17:39 2015, in response to Re: Windows 10, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 29 19:48:34 2015. Do you recommend it? |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Jul 29 20:18:08 2015, in response to Re: Windows 10, posted by cortelyounext on Wed Jul 29 19:50:46 2015. Does that still run? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 29 20:28:27 2015, in response to Re: Windows 10, posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Jul 29 19:46:08 2015. Because Windows 9x means 95 or 98.Maybe they also wanted to match Apple's OS X. |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Wed Jul 29 20:30:01 2015, in response to Re: Windows 10, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Jul 29 20:18:08 2015. Nuh uh. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 29 21:14:26 2015, in response to Re: Windows 10, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Jul 29 20:17:39 2015. I stopped using Windows when Vista came out, so I'm really not up on how well it works. Given that it's primarily a cosmetic change to Windows 8 which was awful, it can't be any worse.I run KNOS on all of my machines except for OS X Yosemite on the company machine. I know how to FIX Windows, but I won't use it myself. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 29 21:18:57 2015, in response to Re: Windows 10, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Jul 29 20:17:39 2015. For what it's worth though, here's a review by a genuine tin foil hat wearer, they seem to have spotted a number of privacy issues in it. I *do* wonder why they feel the need to hand out your passwords for wifi to your friends as just one thing. Have a look, this is all I've got:
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 29 21:20:19 2015, in response to Re: Windows 10, posted by cortelyounext on Wed Jul 29 20:30:01 2015. I wonder if MTA sued Microsoft for copyright issues over the "9" and that's why? :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 29 21:20:58 2015, in response to Re: Windows 10, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 29 20:28:27 2015. They should get into the Mozilla/Google race and get up to Windows 66 by the end of the year. :) |
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Posted by Sand Box John on Wed Jul 29 23:21:28 2015, in response to Windows 10, posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Jul 29 15:52:37 2015. I upgraded to 7 last week as Keven knows. Damm thing scream on the hardware I got. Single Xeon QC 2.53 GHz on a dual socket HP z600 with 3 GB of ram. Box also has a dual head video card.Plan to swap out the QC 2.53 GHz for a pair of QC 2.80 GHz and up the ram to 16 GB. And yes, I have the free option of upgrading to Windows 10. John in the sand box of Maryland's eastern shore. |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Jul 30 14:39:06 2015, in response to Re: Windows 10, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 29 21:20:19 2015. Numbers and letters by themselves without bullets are generic and public domain. If that were not the case, then M & M candy co. could sue the MTA for putting letters on round bullets since they are very similar to the “M” on M & M chocolates. |
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Posted by Bill West on Thu Jul 30 16:20:58 2015, in response to Re: Windows 10, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 29 21:18:57 2015. Now I haven't tried Win10 and I'm not enthused about the lack of privacy but some of the complaints could use a little honesty improvement themselves. And better writing on MS's part could have headed these complaints off in the first place, so paraphrasing heavily:1. At the middle of the right edge on the collage: "we will collect private info" followed several lines later by "as required by legal process" would be better expressed as "If required by legal order or law we will commence collecting private info to the extent required by that order or law". Regrettably hard to fault them for that. 2. Regarding Cortana, they could say "As the concept of Cortana is that it will anticipate your thoughts much as a private secretary does, we would have to record much of your private info in order to be able to provide that intuition. This of course would only start if you choose to use the Cortana feature. If you want this intuition to be present across all of your devices then that private info is also going to have to be relayed to them through our cloud servers, including storage of it for later transmission when your next device is online". The point critics should consider here is that basically if you wish to have a private secretary you are going have to decide if you want to trust him and his PC or not. MS maybe needs to point this out instead of presuming everybody knows the reasoning evolution they used when they worked out the design concept. When they coat everything in sugary prose they may think they are avoiding showing anything negative to the customer but unfortunately the coating can also obscure positives that would show them more fairly. Recording your messages might be nothing more than scanning your existing Outlook file to remind you that you have written Mr. Jones about his sales performance twice before. For myself I don't need a private secretary to do this. Bill |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 30 17:30:22 2015, in response to Re: Windows 10, posted by randyo on Thu Jul 30 14:39:06 2015. Yep. I was busting on the MTA for going after that cupcake shop on Smith St. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 30 17:38:52 2015, in response to Re: Windows 10, posted by Bill West on Thu Jul 30 16:20:58 2015. Well ... for what it's worth, I did warn everybody that it was a "tin foil hat" review. :)And yeah, there's a lot of those out there and many are in the militia. Heh. As to the "positioning" of features, Microsoft has never explained themselves well and thus the paranoid have lots of things to bite into with the poor phrasing. As for me, I'm not fond of Microsoft because of their security issues, not so much their privacy issues. If you connect to the intertubes, rest assured that if you lose any data, NSA can restore it from backups for you at a nominal cost. (grin) |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Thu Jul 30 18:45:16 2015, in response to Re: Windows 10, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 29 20:28:27 2015. Because Windows 9x means 95 or 98.This is the correct answer. A lot of legacy applications check if the system identifier said Windows 95 or Windows 98 by checking if the string began with Windows 9. If what is now called Windows 10 was released as Windows 9, such an app would run as if the OS were Windows 95/98, which would likely cause problems. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 30 19:04:07 2015, in response to Re: Windows 10, posted by R36 #9346 on Thu Jul 30 18:45:16 2015. Boy howdy on that given that the old kernel back in those days was MSDOS and from Windows2000 onward, it's the NT kernel. The results from the system itself would be quite different. The libraries that those programs would be calling would be absolutely different though and any such test to see if it was "Win 9x" would return garbage on the newer systems. The real test is to see if there's no response when you call the version API.https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/ms724832%28v=vs.85%29.aspx The Windows version returned by the function is NOT the name of the product, but rather the kernel version. As you can see in the example above, there is no return at all if it's older than Win2000. |
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Interesting "feature" you might want to know about ... (Re: Windows 10) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 30 19:42:44 2015, in response to Windows 10, posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Jul 29 15:52:37 2015. Just noticed this article about Windows 10 and updates, if you pay for bandwidth, you might want to read this and take action:Windows 10 Uses Your Bandwidth to Distribute Updates, Disable It Here Article shows where to find it and how to yank it. |
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Re: Interesting ''feature'' you might want to know about ... (Re: Windows 10) |
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Thu Jul 30 21:32:20 2015, in response to Interesting "feature" you might want to know about ... (Re: Windows 10), posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 30 19:42:44 2015. That will run afoul of at least one ISP's Terms of Service for residential accounts. Optimum Online's TOS explicitly prohibits servers of any kind on residential accounts. I don't know of any exception for Microsoft products.It will also run afoul of my personal terms of service. I don't want Microsoft borrowing my computer for anything that has nothing to do with me. I don't even want to install the updates for myself, much less host them for others. What next, is GM going to add a feature to its next car that will allow others to borrow it if I'm not using it? Maybe they'll make a deal with Uber? This gets to be ridiculous after a while. This whole idea should be tossed into the nearest trash can on a subway platform, where the rats can destroy it completely. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 30 21:40:41 2015, in response to Re: Interesting ''feature'' you might want to know about ... (Re: Windows 10), posted by Andrew Saucci on Thu Jul 30 21:32:20 2015. There's actually been years worth of easement on doing that kind of stuff, Adobe Flash Player has a setting that allows the Viacoms and ESPN's and other "media partners" to use your computer to serve up video to others. They call it "Peer Assisted Networking" and if you bring up your "Settings Manager" in Flash Player, you'll see it. That's what THAT does.But gigabytes of downloads from Microsoft is definitely going to piss off some ISP's, and over cellular is going to make a lot of people unhappy with their tablets when they see their overages bills. Figured I might want to point that out. That article though does explain how to turn that off ... |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Thu Jul 30 22:21:26 2015, in response to Re: Windows 10, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 30 17:38:52 2015. It is a *computer* for pity sake. It is connected to the Internet.If you use it, it is like shouting from rooftop to rooftop : Other people will pick up on it. There is no privacy on the rooftop, nor on the computer either. Keep things as secure as possible, but once you press "send" it is quite gone on the wind. And Yes, both China and Russia have Hilory's email. ROAR |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Thu Jul 30 22:22:03 2015, in response to Re: Windows 10, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 30 17:30:22 2015. It was a BAGEL shop, you dork!ROAR |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 30 22:26:28 2015, in response to Re: Windows 10, posted by Broadway Lion on Thu Jul 30 22:21:26 2015. And plenty of other places as well. That's why I don't worry about backups anymore, it's just cheaper to call Fort Meade and give them a time range I need. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 30 22:27:22 2015, in response to Re: Windows 10, posted by Broadway Lion on Thu Jul 30 22:22:03 2015. They put sugar-coated subway bullets on BAGELS? Wow. And I thought they had authenticity issues with bagels up here. :) |
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Thu Jul 30 22:32:11 2015, in response to Re: Interesting ''feature'' you might want to know about ... (Re: Windows 10), posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 30 21:40:41 2015. I'd check the Flash settings right now, but I didn't even bother to install Flash last fall when I replaced my computer (and installed Windows from scratch myself). I haven't missed Flash at all, actually. |
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Thu Jul 30 22:35:01 2015, in response to Windows 10, posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Jul 29 15:52:37 2015. Is that tunnel in Richardton or is it elsewhere? It looks somewhat futuristic. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 30 22:46:19 2015, in response to Re: Interesting ''feature'' you might want to know about ... (Re: Windows 10), posted by Andrew Saucci on Thu Jul 30 22:32:11 2015. It's nice having video card and CPU fans running quieter, isn't it? :)There's still a few sites out there still insisting on using only Adobe crap, so we still have to support flash. For now ... |
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Posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Fri Jul 31 00:22:22 2015, in response to Re: Interesting ''feature'' you might want to know about ... (Re: Windows 10), posted by Andrew Saucci on Thu Jul 30 21:32:20 2015. You know you're wrong of course. Otherwise they wouldn't be doing it. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Jul 31 07:28:17 2015, in response to Re: Windows 10, posted by Andrew Saucci on Thu Jul 30 22:35:01 2015. LAYOUT of LION Does have secret tunnel connecting Nevins Street to Lenox Avenue, but this is just a generic NYCT tunnel.Here, for the fun of it just, is another...  ROAR |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Jul 31 07:31:24 2015, in response to Re: Interesting ''feature'' you might want to know about ... (Re: Windows 10), posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 30 22:46:19 2015. LION does not use Adobe, him not like price or pricing methods. Him uses Serif Software from England, And if you do not like the current price of their products (about 1/10 of Adobe, you can buy the previous release for about 1/10 of that!Best Products I have used, and more intuitive than Adobe. ROAR |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jul 31 16:31:08 2015, in response to Re: Interesting ''feature'' you might want to know about ... (Re: Windows 10), posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Jul 31 07:31:24 2015. I've found that Gimp, Inkscape, and Scribus does the job for me. I refuse to rent software as far as Adobe's stuff goes. But their players ... security nightmares forever. :( |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jul 31 17:38:45 2015, in response to Re: Windows 10, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 29 21:18:57 2015. What in the lime green Jello Hell? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jul 31 17:44:06 2015, in response to Re: Windows 10, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jul 31 17:38:45 2015. 
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Posted by Neil Feldman on Fri Jul 31 20:04:24 2015, in response to Windows 10, posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Jul 29 15:52:37 2015. Is it me, or is it one of the newer tunnels? |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Aug 1 10:52:04 2015, in response to Re: Interesting ''feature'' you might want to know about ... (Re: Windows 10), posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jul 31 16:31:08 2015. Microsoft licensed and installed Flash Player as part of the Windows 10 operating system. fixes and updates will be applied by Microsoft. Individual users cannot opt out of automatic updates, only enterprise systems can do that.LION is not appreciative that there are so many geegaws that report back to home base, and not all of those apps are made by Microsoft, some are third party and are still collecting data. I think Windows 10 is free because it is one HUGE data scoop. Knowing that I will still use the OS, but I will pay attention to what I do with it. Games against a computer are one thing, games against the internet are quite another. ROAR |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Aug 1 10:56:34 2015, in response to Re: Windows 10, posted by Neil Feldman on Fri Jul 31 20:04:24 2015. I think it is the 63rd Street Tunnel.But that photo is already several years old. ROAR |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Sat Aug 1 11:26:32 2015, in response to Re: Interesting ''feature'' you might want to know about ... (Re: Windows 10), posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Aug 1 10:52:04 2015. I am not a computer expert like you guys, so the bottom line question- Should I download it now or wait until any problems are solved? yes, or no? |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Sat Aug 1 12:02:23 2015, in response to Windows 10, posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Jul 29 15:52:37 2015. If you install Win. 10 will you be locked into a subscription deal going forward? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Aug 1 12:19:06 2015, in response to Re: Windows 10 SELKIRK, posted by RockParkMan on Sat Aug 1 12:02:23 2015. Yes. And they can pull your kernel at any time. |
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