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VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!

Posted by Dj Hammers on Sun May 24 01:08:30 2015

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First off, thanks so much to the person who contacted me with a tip that this move was going to occur.

For the first time since the very early 1980s, the BMT Standards may run again. These three cars are being brought up to 207th Street yard by the R9 cars from Coney Island Yard for restoration. Note that some of these cars have working interior lighting!


The cars being towed up:


The R9s heading down to CIY to pick them up:


All taken on May 23rd, 2015!

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Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun May 24 01:57:40 2015, in response to VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!, posted by Dj Hammers on Sun May 24 01:08:30 2015.

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***SWEET***!!!

Bill W must be a REALLY happy camper!

Only time I got to ride the steels before they went away was when I was doing antenna installs for Bressners on Havameyer and they were still running on the M.

I know a LOT of folks are going to be really happy to see them running again! :)

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Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!

Posted by Stef on Sun May 24 01:58:56 2015, in response to VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!, posted by Dj Hammers on Sun May 24 01:08:30 2015.

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It's nice to be in the "know" and have contacts looking out for ya!

I had absolutely no idea that the move was getting done this quickly.

Good work on your end.

-Stef

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Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!

Posted by Stef on Sun May 24 02:00:41 2015, in response to Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun May 24 01:57:40 2015.

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It's great to see interest in them. 207th Street is full of variety now...

-Stef

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Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!

Posted by Dj Hammers on Sun May 24 02:06:03 2015, in response to Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!, posted by Stef on Sun May 24 01:58:56 2015.

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Yes, it definetly was nice of them to let me know. It's greatly appreciated!

If you listen closely, you can hear the D3Fs chugging away on the last car in the consist. I wonder if it was Iron only or if air was trainlined as well?

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Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun May 24 02:06:22 2015, in response to Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!, posted by Stef on Sun May 24 02:00:41 2015.

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The last pair still look like they need a lot of work, but those two suffered as much body rot as 2775 at Branford so just seeing them moving is a miracle right there. Lights on, a bonus. I've seen over the years what absolute wrecks they had to work with there on the horses at CIY and to see them move at all? *BONUS!* :)

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Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun May 24 02:07:19 2015, in response to Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!, posted by Dj Hammers on Sun May 24 02:06:03 2015.

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I hear they have working cobbage with the arnines, so it's not beyond possibility. :)

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Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!

Posted by Dj Hammers on Sun May 24 02:10:38 2015, in response to Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun May 24 02:07:19 2015.

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Was just informed that they were coupled with air trainlined. They're alive and running!

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Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun May 24 02:26:57 2015, in response to Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!, posted by Dj Hammers on Sun May 24 02:10:38 2015.

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Yay, Unca Bill! Cobbage achieved! :)

Might as well make those mods, looks like the "nostalgia train" will suit both ends of B division and a FULL length train! :)

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Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!

Posted by Dj Hammers on Sun May 24 02:29:25 2015, in response to Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun May 24 02:26:57 2015.

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Well the air systems are compatible. AMUE schedule.

As far as I know, it's the door controls and (possibly) propulsion control that is not compatible.

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Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun May 24 02:33:33 2015, in response to Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!, posted by Dj Hammers on Sun May 24 02:29:25 2015.

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Won't leak any details, but let's just say that a "compatible electric portion" has been worked out for at least one end of the AB's. I'll leave it at that, more work needs to be done.

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Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!

Posted by R 36 ML 9542 on Sun May 24 02:45:00 2015, in response to VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!, posted by Dj Hammers on Sun May 24 01:08:30 2015.

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They're alive!!!! Excellent.

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Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!

Posted by mcorivervsaf on Sun May 24 06:40:51 2015, in response to VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!, posted by Dj Hammers on Sun May 24 01:08:30 2015.

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Excellent!

This is surprising! I've always wanted to ride the Standards on a fan trip! Maybe they'll finally get a chance to run, after they get worked on!

Thanks for the videos!

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Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!

Posted by 3-9 on Sun May 24 06:58:49 2015, in response to VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!, posted by Dj Hammers on Sun May 24 01:08:30 2015.

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Good catches, thanks for sharing them!

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Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!

Posted by 3-9 on Sun May 24 07:02:26 2015, in response to Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun May 24 02:06:22 2015.

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Is the one at Branford even worth salvaging? I remember the car body was rusted so badly the skin was peeling away, and that was over 15 years ago!

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Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!

Posted by Lou From Middletown NY on Sun May 24 07:43:57 2015, in response to VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!, posted by Dj Hammers on Sun May 24 01:08:30 2015.

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to paraphrase somebody else - BOTH drool AND foam for this vid!

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Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!

Posted by Lou From Middletown NY on Sun May 24 07:50:38 2015, in response to Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!, posted by R 36 ML 9542 on Sun May 24 02:45:00 2015.

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Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!

Posted by Lou From Middletown NY on Sun May 24 07:50:48 2015, in response to Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!, posted by R 36 ML 9542 on Sun May 24 02:45:00 2015.

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Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun May 24 07:54:45 2015, in response to Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun May 24 02:33:33 2015.

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Real conductors work outdoors, right?:)

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Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun May 24 08:21:38 2015, in response to VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!, posted by Dj Hammers on Sun May 24 01:08:30 2015.

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Love those old timers!

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Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!

Posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Sun May 24 08:32:58 2015, in response to VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!, posted by Dj Hammers on Sun May 24 01:08:30 2015.

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DJ: Thank you for that video. It was great to see those that B-Type pushing those five Arnines.

Larry, RedbirdR33

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Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!

Posted by BMRR on Sun May 24 09:28:13 2015, in response to VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!, posted by Dj Hammers on Sun May 24 01:08:30 2015.

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DJ,
Thanks for covering this story. This is great news!! Rode them in
service on the 14 St line. Looking forward to another ride.

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Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!

Posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Sun May 24 10:05:24 2015, in response to Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!, posted by BMRR on Sun May 24 09:28:13 2015.

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I rode that particular unit on the #10 pre-Chrystie Street. I hate to say it but I don't believe that I have ridden a Standard since 1968.

Larry, RedbirdR33

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Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!

Posted by TransitChuckG on Sun May 24 10:09:50 2015, in response to Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!, posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Sun May 24 08:32:58 2015.

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The MTA the groups that keep those old trains running are to be honored, (C-Divsion)?

Philadelphia has nothing like that.

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Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!

Posted by chud1 on Sun May 24 10:50:36 2015, in response to VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!, posted by Dj Hammers on Sun May 24 01:08:30 2015.

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5 drooling stars out of 5 drooling stars for these 2 video's of my favorite subway cars da R-9's.
chud1.
:).....

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Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!

Posted by chud1 on Sun May 24 10:57:33 2015, in response to Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!, posted by chud1 on Sun May 24 10:50:36 2015.

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also 5 drooling stars out of 5 drooling stars for da Arnines.
my favorite subway cars.
chud1.
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Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!

Posted by Dj Hammers on Sun May 24 11:56:11 2015, in response to Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!, posted by mcorivervsaf on Sun May 24 06:40:51 2015.

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Yup! The BMT cars are all getting work done on them this summer.

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Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!

Posted by Dj Hammers on Sun May 24 11:56:44 2015, in response to Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!, posted by R 36 ML 9542 on Sun May 24 02:45:00 2015.

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Yup! You can even hear a D3F chugging away on one of them.

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Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun May 24 12:25:40 2015, in response to VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!, posted by Dj Hammers on Sun May 24 01:08:30 2015.

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This is outstanding in every way!

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Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!

Posted by Dj Hammers on Sun May 24 12:52:25 2015, in response to Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun May 24 12:25:40 2015.

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Thanks! Took a lot of patience to catch this.

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Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!

Posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Sun May 24 13:11:31 2015, in response to Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!, posted by TransitChuckG on Sun May 24 10:09:50 2015.

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Philadelphia has nothing like that.

SEPTA did restore three of the old Broad Street cars. Unfortunately there wasn't a whole lot of places to run them. How many fantrips can you take on the Broad Street Subway. Its just too bad that they wer'nt stored underground.

Larry, RedbirdR33

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Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!

Posted by Dj Hammers on Sun May 24 13:21:04 2015, in response to Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!, posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Sun May 24 13:11:31 2015.

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What's the deal with the old cars that SEPTA has? It seems like they refuse to do anything with them. Is SEPTA hostile to traction preservation, even when done with volunteer work that doesn't cost them anything?

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R1 103 and WF Low-V - Was: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!

Posted by Dj Hammers on Sun May 24 13:35:47 2015, in response to Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!, posted by BMRR on Sun May 24 09:28:13 2015.

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Yup! Looking forward to seeing them run.

Hopefully R1 103 and the WF Low-V car are getting the same treatment.

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Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!

Posted by HANDBRAKE on Sun May 24 13:38:23 2015, in response to VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!, posted by Dj Hammers on Sun May 24 01:08:30 2015.

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"First off, thanks so much to the person who contacted me with a tip that this move was going to occur."

Possibly "Deep Throat???"

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Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!

Posted by Dj Hammers on Sun May 24 13:41:07 2015, in response to Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!, posted by HANDBRAKE on Sun May 24 13:38:23 2015.

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Hahaha this is not TrainGate. Mark Felt is not privy to such infos.

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Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun May 24 13:44:10 2015, in response to VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!, posted by Dj Hammers on Sun May 24 01:08:30 2015.

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Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!

Posted by SLRT on Sun May 24 13:55:32 2015, in response to Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!, posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Sun May 24 13:11:31 2015.

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Once upon a time they could at least have traveled over the Ben Franklin Bridge to Camden.

Even now they could run the P.& W. to Norristown. Ridiculous? They'd have to be trucked, sure, but if they could run Electroliners and CTA 6000s...

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Preserved SEPTA Cars - Was: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!

Posted by Dj Hammers on Sun May 24 14:06:12 2015, in response to Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!, posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Sun May 24 13:11:31 2015.

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What's the deal with the old cars that SEPTA has? It seems like they refuse to do anything with them. Is SEPTA hostile to traction preservation, even when done with volunteer work that doesn't cost them anything?

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Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!

Posted by The Silence on Sun May 24 14:09:36 2015, in response to Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!, posted by Dj Hammers on Sun May 24 13:21:04 2015.

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I think part of the problem is they are the City of Philadelphia's property, and SEPTA does not seem to like baby sitting other people's stuff. They've still got a pair of CTA cars sitting outside 69th St on the Norristown line. Those are privately owned and IIRC the owner died a few years ago, but they are still parked there.

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Re: R1 103 and WF Low-V - Was: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun May 24 14:20:26 2015, in response to R1 103 and WF Low-V - Was: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!, posted by Dj Hammers on Sun May 24 13:35:47 2015.

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IINM, 103 is being worked on. Perhaps it, too will return to service soon.

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Re: R1 103 and WF Low-V - Was: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!

Posted by Dj Hammers on Sun May 24 14:28:53 2015, in response to Re: R1 103 and WF Low-V - Was: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun May 24 14:20:26 2015.

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It's been painted in Arnine green, but nobody seems to know how its mechanicals are.

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Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!

Posted by Dj Hammers on Sun May 24 14:43:56 2015, in response to Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!, posted by The Silence on Sun May 24 14:09:36 2015.

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Then they should donate the cars to museums that want them instead of having them take up space in their yards.

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Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!

Posted by Asgard on Sun May 24 14:46:34 2015, in response to Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!, posted by SLRT on Sun May 24 13:55:32 2015.

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They'd be too wide for the Norristown Line platforms, wouldn't they?

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Re: Preserved SEPTA Cars - Was: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!

Posted by CJ on Sun May 24 15:20:22 2015, in response to Preserved SEPTA Cars - Was: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!, posted by Dj Hammers on Sun May 24 14:06:12 2015.

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DJ, I asked the same question about those cars on a Facebook group, not too long ago. The response I got, to put it lightly, SEPTA isn't a system dedicated to preservation of their older equipment compared to MTA, the Union Pacific Railroad, or CTA to name a few. I'll link you to the post on FB.

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Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!

Posted by Concourse Express on Sun May 24 15:39:31 2015, in response to VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!, posted by Dj Hammers on Sun May 24 01:08:30 2015.

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This is AWESOME!!!

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Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!

Posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Sun May 24 15:53:46 2015, in response to Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!, posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Sun May 24 10:05:24 2015.

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Yea I rode them in 68 too before I left N.Y. I'd love to ride them again maybe when there up and running. Karl

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Re: R1 103 and WF Low-V - Was: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!

Posted by chud1 on Sun May 24 17:23:32 2015, in response to Re: R1 103 and WF Low-V - Was: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun May 24 14:20:26 2015.

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i hope R1 103 and da WF Low-V are back on da road soon.
chud1.
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Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun May 24 17:23:45 2015, in response to Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun May 24 07:54:45 2015.

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That's gonna be a tad of a challenge on the steels. :)

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Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!

Posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Sun May 24 17:32:24 2015, in response to VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!, posted by Dj Hammers on Sun May 24 01:08:30 2015.

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Wow, really cool! Thank you for sharing!

Seems like everything vintage is moving its way north these days.

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Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun May 24 17:35:11 2015, in response to Re: VIDEO: BMT STANDARDS MOVED to 207th Street Yard!, posted by 3-9 on Sun May 24 07:02:26 2015.

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It could be, but it won't come cheap. The set that you saw in that video was in the same condition years ago. Bill and crew had to do a *lot* of work to get them as far as they are now. Years and years and years worth.

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