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Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly

Posted by TransitChuckG on Fri May 22 17:57:38 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by terRAPIN station on Thu May 21 08:00:05 2015.

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On the 9 hour or so ride on the 79 or 80, I see lots of people bringing food. That's smart.

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Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly

Posted by Broadway Lion on Fri May 22 18:00:04 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Thu May 21 23:29:42 2015.

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A Dining car has linen table cloths, heavy table ware, cloth napkins, waiters and good food.

Well they got 4 out of 5 right anyway.

ROAR

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Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly

Posted by TransitChuckG on Fri May 22 18:00:53 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by TransitChuckG on Fri May 22 17:57:38 2015.

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That's a nine hour ride for me, PHL-DNC. The entire line, NYP-CLT is longer , so you would need lots of food.

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Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly

Posted by TransitChuckG on Fri May 22 18:35:47 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 22 17:06:42 2015.

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I did the same thing, it's long gone. I always ate breakfast at Miss Mary's on Green Island, then a short hop to the Ford plant at the end of the road. I worked for Ford and drove a Chevy.In 1961 I had 1960 black Chevy convertable.. Traded that in 1962 for a 62 Chevy Maroon hardtop . That really pissed them off. :)

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Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri May 22 18:36:25 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 22 17:28:00 2015.

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Why haven't you apologized yet?

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Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri May 22 18:59:03 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by terRAPIN station on Fri May 22 08:53:47 2015.

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LOL PWN3D

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Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly

Posted by 3-9 on Fri May 22 19:04:55 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by TransitChuckG on Fri May 22 16:42:09 2015.

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Yeah, that sounds like the Carolinian, Amfleet all the way. :-)

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Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly

Posted by TransitChuckG on Fri May 22 19:06:08 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by 3-9 on Fri May 22 19:04:55 2015.

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I be riding it in 4 weeks.

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Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly

Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Fri May 22 20:31:41 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by 3-9 on Fri May 22 19:04:55 2015.

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as any of us who cook know, a whole lot of tasy food can be prepared with nukers, convection ovens and maybe an induction hotplate. If Amtrak could reinstate catered upper end sandwiches, salads, pastries,etc (such as are sold in the NE stations by Au Bon Pain) on Empire Service trains, diners at tables in Amfleet equipment could have decent meals. There is also the precedent on pre Amtrak trains, of ordering from a short menu for to the train delivery at a station ahead. Again, having these (licensed, health inspected, etc) outside caterers show up at a station where the dwell is 5-10 minutes could provide much better food at essentially zero waste as it would be only as ordered. This was feasible in telegraph days; certainly easy w/smart phones.

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Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 22 22:47:14 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by TransitChuckG on Fri May 22 18:35:47 2015.

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Heh. Yeah, Ford could get a bit worked up about those things but at the time, their cars were ... how shall I say? Kinda crappy? :)

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Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 22 22:56:48 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri May 22 18:36:25 2015.

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Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly

Posted by Joe V on Sat May 23 09:37:12 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Fri May 22 20:31:41 2015.

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It doesn't take "upper end" to make a decent sandwich, just fresh cold cuts and bread.

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Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly

Posted by merrick1 on Sat May 23 10:04:16 2015, in response to Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue May 12 21:35:00 2015.

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First person account on Politico

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Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly

Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat May 23 14:16:15 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by Joe V on Sat May 23 09:37:12 2015.

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Depends on what sort of bread is acceptable to you. Perhaps you ever ate in any of the chain bars--blarney, white, rose, stone etc. The meat was okay, the bread was the balloon crap.

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Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly

Posted by TransitChuckG on Sat May 23 14:32:57 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 22 22:47:14 2015.

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Fix Or Repair Daily. I had Chev's & Fords, can't really say any of them had big faults.

I'm a Nissan man , now.

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Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 23 14:35:38 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by TransitChuckG on Sat May 23 14:32:57 2015.

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As an owner of a couple of Fords over the years, they were nice in one way. Ordinary tools were all you needed. The problem though is that you had to tweak things almost daily, 3 degrees before top dead center had a habit of moving. :)

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Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly

Posted by Joe V on Sat May 23 14:36:34 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat May 23 14:16:15 2015.

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All I know is back in the 70's , they stocked NEC trains from Springfield with a plain roast white meat turkey sandwich on whole wheat sliced bread, and it was fine. They even nuked if for you, and threw in a free bag of chips.

Now they can do nothing better than "Cuban" sandwich, flatbread, all sorts of spices, and too much money.

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Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly

Posted by TransitChuckG on Sat May 23 14:37:48 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 23 14:35:38 2015.

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Oh, my. Loved putting new points in the distributor, and setting the timing to 4 degrees btc, vacuum hose off, with the strobe light.


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Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 23 14:53:31 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by TransitChuckG on Sat May 23 14:37:48 2015.

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Yep. But a genuine pain the ass if you needed to be somewhere and the car said, "Nuh-uh. Bang!" :)

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Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 23 14:56:37 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 23 14:53:31 2015.

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See that ragtop behind the Rambler? Mines. :)



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Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly

Posted by TransitChuckG on Sat May 23 15:21:13 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 23 14:56:37 2015.

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Classic Mustang!!! Love The EL in the shot.


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Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 23 15:42:19 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by TransitChuckG on Sat May 23 15:21:13 2015.

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1967, 289 4 bbl. Spent more time in the shop than on the road. :)

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Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly

Posted by TransitChuckG on Sat May 23 18:12:03 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by TransitChuckG on Sat May 23 15:21:13 2015.

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Oh , you had Fix Or Repair Daily. Stick Shift or Automatic?

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Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 23 18:57:16 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by TransitChuckG on Sat May 23 18:12:03 2015.

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4 speed on the floor. Went through clutches like a Volkswagen. :)

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Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly

Posted by TransitChuckG on Sat May 23 19:27:37 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 23 18:57:16 2015.

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Oh, my. I had many stick shift cars, never wore out a clutch. Tore up a rear end in my 57 Chev. My mechanic (the boss), at the gas station I worked, put in new side gears and it still made noise, tore it apart and it needed a ring and pinion. Now with the arthritis in my knees, I'm glad I have an automatic.

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Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 23 20:01:48 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by TransitChuckG on Sat May 23 19:27:37 2015.

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Yeah, that's how I ended up with a two year old car. It was a shop queen and no matter what they did with it, it would eat clutches. Supposedly quite a few of them had that habit. After about 6 months of it, I resold it to a mechanic and last I'd heard, he was still replacing them. :)

I actually made a few bucks on that sale.

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Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly

Posted by randyo on Sat May 23 20:46:55 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 23 20:01:48 2015.

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I had a clutch problem like that with my first VW Squareback. I finally gave up and traded it in for an automatic of the same model. I asked the salesman at VW if he eouldlet me know why I was burning out so many clutches and he told me that the maintenance staff at the dealership found a kink in the clutch cable that was preventing the clutch from fully engaging thus the car was riding its own clutch. A few years later when I rented a stick shift Fiat in Ireland I had no problems at all even on hills.

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Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 23 21:01:10 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by randyo on Sat May 23 20:46:55 2015.

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Don't get me started on VW's. Heh. I had a 400 bug, same story as the Mustang. Only difference was that a new plate and cable fixed it for good. But the local dealer in the Bronx never figured that out.

Took me a while to get manual down, but once I did I loved it. And you know how the Bronx is for "rollback" on the hills. But my wife absolutely hates standards, so it's been auto ever since.

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Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun May 24 08:08:25 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by 3-9 on Fri May 22 15:56:21 2015.

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That's just it though - in many places the tips just go into a pool anyway, not to your specific server. As for an incentive, in most other professions providing good service is called "doing your job".

The Japanese method is perfect in this regard - you simply will never experience bad service, anywhere.

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Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue May 26 07:39:47 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 22 22:56:48 2015.

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Why is it so hard for you to admit you were wrong and apologize?

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Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue May 26 07:40:48 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by terRAPIN station on Fri May 22 08:53:47 2015.

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Bump for SelkirkTMO.

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Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue May 26 16:36:59 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue May 26 07:39:47 2015.

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Why is it so hard for you to realize that nobody else gives a shit?

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Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly

Posted by R30A on Tue May 26 16:49:59 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by 3-9 on Fri May 22 16:11:35 2015.

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The Single level dining car fleet currently consists of:
20 Heritage Diners
1 Viewliner Diner

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Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue May 26 19:26:22 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue May 26 07:39:47 2015.

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You do realize that being right doesn't matter on a recreational message board? Someone posts something wrong, someone else corrects it, life goes on.

Here's a clue about social interaction: most of the time no one cares who is right, just who is easier to get along with.

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Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly

Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed May 27 08:28:47 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue May 26 07:40:48 2015.

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Bump for SelkirkTMO.

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Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly

Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed May 27 08:33:01 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue May 26 16:36:59 2015.

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Why is it so hard for you to realize that whether anyone gives a shit is not the issue? You posted something and a knowledgeable poster corrected you. You then proceeded to argue with that knowledgeable poster, as well as all the additional knowledgeable posters who followed to also correct you. So many people took time to correct your severely mistaken ideas and you can't take 3 seconds to apologize to everyone for wasting their time going on and on about things you obviously have no clue about? It's about COURTESY in the COMMUNITY. It's not about who gives a shit. You're really pathetic.

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Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly

Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed May 27 08:36:13 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue May 26 19:26:22 2015.

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You do realize that being right doesn't matter on a recreational message board?
Where did I say it mattered?

Someone posts something wrong, someone else corrects it, life goes on.
LOL! That's certainly not what happens here. And that's not what happens most of the time, either. Can you figure out why?

most of the time no one cares who is right
The intelligent people care who is right because then they know who to trust and listen to in discussions. It's 100% relevant. It's the entire basis of discussion.

just who is easier to get along with.
If you're here for shits and giggles and trolling, like SelkirkTMO, and also apparently you, then yes. But for people who are here to have informed discussions, then no.

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Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly

Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed May 27 08:38:02 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue May 26 19:26:22 2015.

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on a recreational message board
Also, this isn't a recreational message board. That would be OTChat, if anything. SubChat is a more serious message board, in that it is focused on a certain subject and people come here to discuss and and ask questions about that topic. They're not here for bullshit. Why would they come here if they are going to be fed bullshit?

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Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 27 15:17:05 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by terRAPIN station on Wed May 27 08:33:01 2015.

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Courtesy? For you? LOL!

Poor baby ... all worked up. :)

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Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 27 15:18:04 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by terRAPIN station on Wed May 27 08:36:13 2015.

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Informed discussions. Here. LOL!

Bump. :)

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Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 27 15:18:41 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by terRAPIN station on Wed May 27 08:38:02 2015.

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Good question. So then why are we seriously discussing THIS bullshit?

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Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 27 23:22:23 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 27 15:17:05 2015.

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No, for everyone. Figures that you wouldn't understand that. My points stand.

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Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 27 23:23:26 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 27 15:18:04 2015.

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Yes, here. Are you blind? As usual, you change the subject when the discussion becomes uncomfortable for you. Address the issue.

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Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 27 23:24:19 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 27 15:18:41 2015.

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So you admit that you were wrong. Thank you.

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Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 27 23:34:16 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 27 23:24:19 2015.

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Awwwww ... aren't you cute? Brushie-brushie! :)



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Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly

Posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Wed May 27 23:51:19 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 27 23:34:16 2015.

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SelkirkTMO's internet mental breakdown #2: I would have been FAR less rabid had ANY republican stepped up and sympathized or "group apologized" for the McCain asshole who punched Nancy in the FACE and broke her nose for being "lukewarm at best" over Obama and his "sexism doesn't matter so much" stance in front of a "blood and guts McCain - if you ain't for McCain, then you're a "Nigger-loving JEW BITCH."

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Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly

Posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Wed May 27 23:51:55 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 22 17:28:00 2015.

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Why is it so hard for you to admit you were wrong and apologize?

BUMP

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Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu May 28 00:06:28 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Wed May 27 23:51:19 2015.

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Quote from 1353905 in this very thread:

"Also, this isn't a recreational message board. That would be OTChat, if anything. SubChat is a more serious message board, in that it is focused on a certain subject and people come here to discuss and and ask questions about that topic. They're not here for bullshit. Why would they come here if they are going to be fed bullshit? "

So what line did that occur on? And is there a GO we should know about? LOL

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Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu May 28 00:08:49 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Wed May 27 23:51:55 2015.

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If you're going to be retarded, can you at LEAST ensure that your bump is on topic somehow? Here. Try this ...



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Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly

Posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Thu May 28 00:12:01 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu May 28 00:06:28 2015.

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A quote from this very thread: SelkirkTMO's internet mental breakdown #2

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