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Posted by TransitChuckG on Wed May 20 08:52:54 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by Broadway Lion on Tue May 19 08:01:02 2015. I ride the Carolinian, there is a "tip glass" on the counter of the cafe car. I just buy my food (overpriced), and never leave a tip. |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Wed May 20 08:58:10 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed May 20 08:52:54 2015. so your punishing a worker cause Amtrak has food overpriced ?? you cheap fuck.. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Wed May 20 10:45:24 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed May 20 08:52:54 2015. Ah, the Cafe car... Yes it should have a staffed counter, but it should also be lined with vending machines, everything from drinks to sandwiches, deserts and ice cream. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Wed May 20 10:46:13 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by Dutchrailnut on Wed May 20 08:58:10 2015. That is a union worker, being paid union wages and benefits, he does not need any tips. |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Wed May 20 11:00:04 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by Broadway Lion on Wed May 20 10:46:13 2015. so is waiter or waitress at your restaurant, yet you tip them. |
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Posted by R30A on Wed May 20 11:41:25 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by Dutchrailnut on Wed May 20 11:00:04 2015. I always tip on Amtrak, but no, restaurant waitstaff is not paid nearly as well as Amtrak's, nor do they have close to the benefits. |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed May 20 11:42:36 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by Dutchrailnut on Wed May 20 11:00:04 2015. http://www.paywizard.org/main/salary/minimum-wage/tipped-workersRestaurant workers make minimum wage, if that, and may not get benefits Normal federal min wage is $7.25, but for tipped workers, it is $2.13, and that has not gone up in over 23 years. Amtrak workers are entirely in a different ballpark, are union, and get good benes. |
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Posted by R30A on Wed May 20 11:44:40 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by Joe V on Wed May 20 11:42:36 2015. My restaurant pay when tipped is $5/hour. When I started 10 years ago it was 3.80/hour. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed May 20 12:03:24 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by Broadway Lion on Wed May 20 10:46:13 2015. Amtrak workers may be paid very well for all I know. But "union" is not synonymous with "well paid." Some union workers are, some are not. |
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Posted by Dave on Wed May 20 13:06:32 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by Broadway Lion on Wed May 20 10:45:24 2015. Amtrak offers that on the Pere Marquette instead of a staffed Cafe car.
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Posted by Joe V on Wed May 20 13:10:34 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by Dave on Wed May 20 13:06:32 2015. Never seen that. What kind of cars is that , and what do I see in the distance - walkover commuter seats ? |
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Posted by R30A on Wed May 20 13:12:36 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by Dave on Wed May 20 13:06:32 2015. That was a long time ago. |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Wed May 20 13:21:41 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by R30A on Wed May 20 11:41:25 2015. I did not say that !! but then restaurant staff sleeps in own bed every night. |
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Posted by Dave on Wed May 20 13:38:27 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by Joe V on Wed May 20 13:10:34 2015. One half of the car had 10 full size tables that are larger than those in the Superliner Dining Cars. The other side of the car had 3 similar tables. Each table could seat 4 full size adults or up to 6 younger children. It was an ex-UP coach that had been previouslyconverted to a table car. The automat car was discontinued some time in the 1990's, IIRC. The Auto Train also offered automat cars. Southern Pacific tried Automat diners in the 1960s. |
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Posted by Michael549 on Wed May 20 14:13:27 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by Dave on Wed May 20 13:38:27 2015. What kind of dining facilities are offered these days on the long distance trains?Just wondering. Mike |
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Posted by Dave on Wed May 20 14:30:50 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by Michael549 on Wed May 20 14:13:27 2015. amtrak.com |
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Posted by 3-9 on Wed May 20 15:34:07 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by Dutchrailnut on Wed May 20 08:58:10 2015. There is no obligation to tip for counter service. |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Wed May 20 15:39:55 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by 3-9 on Wed May 20 15:34:07 2015. There never is obligation to tip , but to brag about not tipping cause amtrak prices are to high is just not right. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Wed May 20 15:51:06 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by Dutchrailnut on Wed May 20 15:39:55 2015. I beg to differ on that. If you were waited on at, say, a restaurant, and the service was decent or better, you are obligated to provide a gratuity of at least 15-20%. (Some say you should provide a gratuity regardless, but that's debatable.) For straight pick up service, though, there is no such obligation, and TransitChuckG is perfectly within his rights to not leave a tip, regardless of the reason. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Wed May 20 15:55:02 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by Dave on Wed May 20 13:38:27 2015. Too bad. I'm pretty leery of vending machines providing anything more than snack food at best. I figured automats would provide something at least a bit more substantial. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 20 16:05:42 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by Joe V on Wed May 20 07:58:09 2015. Well ... given that the cells are prison-sized, they really need somewhere else to stretch their legs in the daytime. But have no fear, they charge for those seats too as part of the price. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Wed May 20 16:20:32 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by Joe V on Wed May 20 07:58:09 2015. Aren't roomettes more or less economy sleepers? Aside from having rows of bunk beds, that is. :-) |
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Posted by 3-9 on Wed May 20 16:24:07 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by Broadway Lion on Tue May 19 08:01:02 2015. 4) Are the dining cars on the long distance trains really that inferior? Unless they've been subjected to those budget cuts that were recommended earlier. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 20 16:37:39 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by 3-9 on Wed May 20 16:24:07 2015. Yeah, they are. Which is why when you end up at one of those "stretch your legs" stops, you head into town and scarf up anything you can find. :( |
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Posted by R30A on Wed May 20 16:40:40 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by 3-9 on Wed May 20 16:24:07 2015. The LD Dining cars are pretty fantastic. The eastern ones, while still nice are ancient, and replacements are on order. I'd suggest riding one while you still can. Silver Meteor to Alexandria or Lake Shore Limited to Schenectady both allow for dinner with a same day return to NYC :) |
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Posted by 3-9 on Wed May 20 16:44:13 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by R30A on Wed May 20 16:40:40 2015. Thanks for the suggestions, it sounds worth trying out! |
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Posted by 3-9 on Wed May 20 16:45:55 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 20 16:37:39 2015. Well, I'm a lighter eater than I was before, so I think I can deal with it. Before, I could totally see myself doing that. :-) |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Wed May 20 16:55:40 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by 3-9 on Wed May 20 15:51:06 2015. I'm learning more and more about how employees are paid, like food servers, and I've changed my mind about leaving a tip.The next time on Amtrak , I will leave a tip. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Wed May 20 17:18:25 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by 3-9 on Wed May 20 16:24:07 2015. LION has found the dining cars just great. Him would eat in them again when riding on AMTK...BUT.... LIONS do not like waiting on line. LION hungry, LION go eat. not want to fuss with their military attitude toward sittings etc. They come through the train making reservations for the 5:00, the 6:00 and the 7:00 sitting. ROAR |
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Posted by Dave on Wed May 20 17:18:32 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by R30A on Wed May 20 16:40:40 2015. I'd say the meals are fair, with breakfasts the best. I rode the Coast Starlight in 2012 and Texas Eagle last year. Both had similar menus but there usually is one dinner entree unique to each route. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Wed May 20 17:25:56 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by Broadway Lion on Wed May 20 17:18:25 2015. When I eat on my Amtrak train, I purchase food from the cafe car, and if I can, eat it at one of the tables in the cafe car. On the Carolinian, most times half the cafe car seats are filled with Amtrak employees, they sit towards the front next to the business car, so you look for table seat in the other half. I've ridden a few times when the train is oversold, and passengers are sitting the entire trip in the cafe car, so you take your food back to your seat. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 20 17:36:45 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by 3-9 on Wed May 20 16:45:55 2015. They haven't messed too badly with the REALLY long distance trains, but head for Vermont or Canada or past Albany from NYP and you'll beg for vending machines. :( |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 20 17:37:54 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by R30A on Wed May 20 16:40:40 2015. On the Lake Shore, the diner comes from Boston and gets added at Rensselaer. You'll need to eat quick though if you're only going to Schenectady. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Wed May 20 17:49:19 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 20 17:37:54 2015. I miss that area, the tri-cities.I worked there in 1961 & 62. Lived in Watervliet, worked on Green Island. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 20 17:55:39 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed May 20 17:49:19 2015. It's gotten better in some ways, worse in others. The cities themselves are emptying out, but the surroundings are turning into Long Island until you get WAY out of town. It's nice out here. :)Arsenal is still going strong, Green Island is mostly scrap businesses now, but they did go completely "off grid". This might amuse you:  If you "view image" on that, you'll get it full size. |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Wed May 20 18:07:31 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by 3-9 on Wed May 20 15:51:06 2015. you tip at a bar ?? |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed May 20 18:22:31 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 20 17:37:54 2015. No, the diner comes from NY. |
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Posted by Dave on Wed May 20 18:32:38 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by Dutchrailnut on Wed May 20 18:07:31 2015. Who doesn't tip a bartender? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 20 18:35:03 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by Joe V on Wed May 20 18:22:31 2015. Then things have changed again. Last few trips, it was in the Boston section towards the rear heading westbound. |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed May 20 18:38:25 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 20 18:35:03 2015. Over last last couple of months, there was no Boston section. It was either a bus or a shuttle. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Wed May 20 18:50:26 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by Dutchrailnut on Wed May 20 18:07:31 2015. Don't frequent bars so I don't know. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 20 18:57:14 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by Joe V on Wed May 20 18:38:25 2015. It's been a while since I've needed to go west. CSX dumped something again? :) |
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Posted by Dj Hammers on Wed May 20 19:02:26 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 20 17:37:54 2015. Actually, the diner comes from NYC. I'm 100% sure about this, I traveled the route very frequently this year. |
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Posted by Dj Hammers on Wed May 20 19:03:20 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by Joe V on Wed May 20 18:38:25 2015. It was only like this for a few weeks here or there. Regardless, the diner has always come from NYC. |
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Posted by Dj Hammers on Wed May 20 19:03:38 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by Joe V on Wed May 20 18:22:31 2015. Yup. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 20 19:08:21 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by Dj Hammers on Wed May 20 19:02:26 2015. I don't doubt it, things change. Diner used to be on the Boston section, but it's varied even in the past. But you only get one, no matter where it comes from. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 20 19:08:57 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by Dj Hammers on Wed May 20 19:03:20 2015. Not always. Ethan Allen when they had one, yes. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 20 19:18:15 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 20 17:37:54 2015. Mystery solved!Up until 2003, both the NYP and BOS sections had a diner car. Depending on which section was in the lead when the train was assembled in Rensselaer to head west, only ONE of the cars would head west and the other would be sent back. The send back was usually on the next NYP eastbound since they ran more often, thus it was the Bostom diner that continued on to Chicago. In 2003, budget cuts stripped off the Boston diner entirely and it was replaced with a lounge car until 2008. As of 2008, it got a plain old club car except during the busy season when it would again get a diner car for most runs. And again, one diner would get dropped off at Rensselaer, more often than not the Boston one. Hope this helps, just inquired of a buddy who is one of the conductor pool for that run. |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed May 20 19:18:51 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 20 19:08:21 2015. Boston never had a diner in 40 years it has been running. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 20 19:20:20 2015, in response to Re: Major Amtrak derailment in Philly, posted by Joe V on Wed May 20 19:18:51 2015. False.Depending on the number of bookings, it would be everything from a cafe car to a full blown Heritage diner. All depended on the time of year and how well-booked the train was. Diners appeared far less frequently on the run though after the early 1990's. |
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