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Posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Mar 4 16:53:05 2015 3/4/2015Moments ago, the U.S. House of Representatives voted overwhelmingly against an amendment that sought to end passenger rail service in America. Rep. Tom McClintock’s (R-CA) amendment to eliminate funding to Amtrak – including Capitol Corridor and California Zephyr service in his own district – was voted down 272 to 147, nearly a two-to-one margin. This is a big victory for trains in America, and we couldn’t have done it without your hard work and support. Your emails and phone calls in the past 24 hours helped to move the needle, and wavering House members got the message loud and clear: there is an overwhelming consensus that A Connected America needs a modern, 21st century intermodal transportation network and rail is a vital part of that equation. But make no mistake: plenty of work remains. We’ve just seen that Amtrak has a bulletproof majority, but NARP is committed to growing that support even more. With more ordinary passengers on our side – from people who use subways to get to work every day in America’s largest cities, to residents of rural communities where a daily Amtrak train may be the only alternative to driving – we can finally transform U.S. passenger rail into a network that provides all Americans with frequent and reliable service. The underlying authorizing legislation, H.R. 749, was approved by a vote of 316 to 101: a strong mandate and an encouraging sign of a GOP House that agrees in principle with the White House that America needs trains. Now, the fight for a bill that will truly transform the way rail passengers travel moves to the Senate. NARP needs your help in this fight. Give now to help us build the modern train network that Americans want. Your gift—even if it’s only $5, $10, or $20—makes all the difference in helping NARP advance our mission. And of course, keep calling your congressional delegation, keep visiting their offices in your hometown, and keep sending them emails and letters. Thank you for defending America’s passengers this week, and keep it up! Jim Mathews President & CEO National Association of Railroad Passengers |
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Posted by chud1 on Wed Mar 4 17:12:03 2015, in response to Amtrak Passenger Service is saved, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Mar 4 16:53:05 2015. OUTSTANDING REPORT!chud1. :)..... |
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Posted by The Silence on Wed Mar 4 17:13:58 2015, in response to Amtrak Passenger Service is saved, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Mar 4 16:53:05 2015. Your gift—even if it’s only $5, $10, or $20and he works some way into trying to get money out of this when probably did next to nothing... |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Mar 4 17:43:52 2015, in response to Amtrak Passenger Service is saved, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Mar 4 16:53:05 2015. Good! No surprise here. Every know & then some knucklehead tries to kill Amtrak. I remember when Pres Reagen tried his best to do away with all intercity trains. At one speaking engagement, he said that he could give every man, woman & child who rides Amtrak a free airline ticket & the Gov't would save money v/s the (then) current funding.Well, no sale, Ronnie. Nobody (not enough yes men that is) bought that arguement. Trains ran then & they run now & the'll run tomorrow. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Wed Mar 4 17:45:58 2015, in response to Amtrak Passenger Service is saved, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Mar 4 16:53:05 2015. This is good news indeed, and shows where the public really is on this issue. But as we all know, the US passenger rail system needs a massive investment... |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Mar 4 17:46:05 2015, in response to Re: Amtrak Passenger Service is saved, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Mar 4 17:43:52 2015. Good old GOP math. Most people ride a train more than once. :) |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Mar 4 17:47:33 2015, in response to Amtrak Passenger Service is saved, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Mar 4 16:53:05 2015. Name the names of everyone who voted for the amendment to kill Amtrak. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Mar 4 18:01:10 2015, in response to Amtrak Passenger Service is saved, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Mar 4 16:53:05 2015. Whale, no surprize there. |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Mar 4 18:09:38 2015, in response to Re: Amtrak Passenger Service is saved, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Mar 4 17:47:33 2015. In NJ, Rep. Scott Garrett voted to kill Amtrak.No one in NY, CT, nor PA did. https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/114-2015/h110 |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Mar 4 18:36:55 2015, in response to Re: Amtrak Passenger Service is saved, posted by Joe V on Wed Mar 4 18:09:38 2015. Thanks, Joe V. Linked |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Mar 4 19:26:43 2015, in response to Amtrak Passenger Service is saved, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Mar 4 16:53:05 2015. There was never any chance of the amendment passing. NARP was using fear tactics to raise money, something all advocacy groups do. |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Mar 4 19:35:52 2015, in response to Re: Amtrak Passenger Service is saved, posted by italianstallion on Wed Mar 4 19:26:43 2015. You still want it to fail by as large a margin as possible. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Mar 4 19:50:08 2015, in response to Re: Amtrak Passenger Service is saved, posted by italianstallion on Wed Mar 4 19:26:43 2015. Well, for the districts where the congressfish voted against it, I hope Amtrak shuts down service and when trains are passing through, empty the air tanks into those Leslies. :) |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Mar 4 19:58:41 2015, in response to Re: Amtrak Passenger Service is saved, posted by The Silence on Wed Mar 4 17:13:58 2015. Such organizations would solicit money. What's new about that? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Mar 4 20:02:08 2015, in response to Re: Amtrak Passenger Service is saved, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Mar 4 17:43:52 2015. I remember when Pres Reagen (sic) tried his best to do away with all intercity trains. At one speaking engagement, he said that he could give every man, woman & child who rides Amtrak a free airline ticket & the Gov't would save money v/s the (then) current fundingThat's not proof that Reagan wanted to do away with intercity trains. Only to people who conflate all intercity trains with Amtrak. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Mar 4 20:06:46 2015, in response to Amtrak Passenger Service is saved, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Mar 4 16:53:05 2015. The Hill
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Mar 4 20:32:35 2015, in response to Re: Amtrak Passenger Service is saved, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Mar 4 20:06:46 2015. "The measure wouldn't have been approved but for the support of the House's Democrats."But, but ,but, I thought liberals hated trains!!! |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Mar 4 20:48:07 2015, in response to Re: Amtrak Passenger Service is saved, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Mar 4 20:02:08 2015. What message do you think Reagan was trying to convey when he said that?? Do you think that he gave a vote of confidence to intercity/long distance train passengers in the USA?? I think not.He was a skilled orator, also a trained actor who fell back on his acting skills to evoke passion in all of his speeches. Thankfully, his acting skills were thin when it came to make an attempt to kill Amtrak. BTW, I can't find my dictionary. What does "conflate" mean??? |
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Posted by Dave on Wed Mar 4 22:00:30 2015, in response to Re: Amtrak Passenger Service is saved, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Mar 4 20:48:07 2015. con·flatekənˈflāt/ verb verb: conflate; 3rd person present: conflates; past tense: conflated; past participle: conflated; gerund or present participle: conflating combine (two or more texts, ideas, etc.) into one. "the urban crisis conflates a number of different economic and social issues" synonyms: mix, blend, fuse, unite, integrate "the plot gets weighed down when the writers conflate too many issues into one episode" |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Mar 4 22:14:14 2015, in response to Re: Amtrak Passenger Service is saved, posted by Dave on Wed Mar 4 22:00:30 2015. Thank you!! |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Wed Mar 4 23:39:47 2015, in response to Re: Amtrak Passenger Service is saved, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Mar 4 20:02:08 2015. In the United States, what other intercity trains are there, or were there at the time? |
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Posted by WillD on Thu Mar 5 01:29:59 2015, in response to Re: Amtrak Passenger Service is saved, posted by Joe V on Wed Mar 4 18:09:38 2015. So lets go over this again.Which party was it that voted unanimously against the ammendment? Which party was it with a majority who voted to kill Amtrak? The "liberals hate trains" lie ends with this thread. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Mar 5 01:33:47 2015, in response to Re: Amtrak Passenger Service is saved, posted by WillD on Thu Mar 5 01:29:59 2015. Nah. The usual suspects will NEVER stop humping that leg. :) |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Mar 5 05:45:57 2015, in response to Amtrak Passenger Service is saved, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Mar 4 16:53:05 2015. No, it isn't:"However, a provision touted by Republicans in the bill would require revenue that is generated by trips in the Northeast to be used only for improvements in the popular corridor. That could force Amtrak to streamline its longer routes elsewhere in the country." |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Mar 5 08:07:14 2015, in response to Re: Amtrak Passenger Service is saved, posted by Joe V on Wed Mar 4 18:09:38 2015. Thanks. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Mar 5 17:26:36 2015, in response to Re: Amtrak Passenger Service is saved, posted by WillD on Thu Mar 5 01:29:59 2015. That line was invented by Olog and even he doesn't believe it. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Thu Mar 5 20:58:34 2015, in response to Re: Amtrak Passenger Service is saved, posted by Dyre Dan on Wed Mar 4 23:39:47 2015. I think the Denver & Rio Grande Western had one. Also the Southern Crescent and Auto Train, maybe Rock Island as well. They were either abandoned or became part of Amtrak while Reagan was president. |
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Posted by nostalgia on Thu Mar 5 22:36:31 2015, in response to Re: Amtrak Passenger Service is saved, posted by 3-9 on Thu Mar 5 20:58:34 2015. Denver & Rio Grande wanted to avoid joining Amtrak because they didn't want Amtrak on their rails. So they ran truncated service between Denver and Salt Lake. Southern thought they could still make money but after losing millions of dollars on the Crescent, threw in the towel and joined Amtrak. Auto Train just went bankrupt. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 6 01:37:22 2015, in response to Re: Amtrak Passenger Service is saved, posted by nostalgia on Thu Mar 5 22:36:31 2015. Southern had to run the Crescent on Amtrak's rails. Might have been that the same tactic that the CTA used on the CNS&M to drive them out of business—raise the rent for use of their facilities—might have been put into play, but until I see the record, I can't be sure. Private railroads do not get to charge whatever they want to Amtrak to run on their rails. |
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Posted by Joe V on Fri Mar 6 07:58:36 2015, in response to Re: Amtrak Passenger Service is saved, posted by 3-9 on Thu Mar 5 20:58:34 2015. The Crescent became Amtrak's during Carter.Rick Island service simply died in the 1970's. |
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Posted by Joe V on Fri Mar 6 08:04:40 2015, in response to Re: Amtrak Passenger Service is saved, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 6 01:37:22 2015. The North Shore Line was owned by Susquehanna Corp, and found a great rate of return by scrapping the line than running it. If that had held off a couple of years, perhaps the Skokie Swift could have been run to Waukegan with a subsidy. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Fri Mar 6 14:15:16 2015, in response to Re: Amtrak Passenger Service is saved, posted by Joe V on Fri Mar 6 07:58:36 2015. Not very long after Claytor left Sou, took a Cabinet job. |
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Posted by Joe V on Fri Mar 6 14:33:53 2015, in response to Re: Amtrak Passenger Service is saved, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Fri Mar 6 14:15:16 2015. Then Carter via Brock Adams at one point put the Crescent up for discontinuance prior to what became the 1979 Route Massacre. |
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