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Re: New info on MTA rehab (N) Sea Beach line; Manhattan express (86 St & 8 Av stops only) in 2015 |
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Posted by SLRT on Fri Dec 19 14:01:54 2014, in response to New info on MTA rehab (N) Sea Beach line; Manhattan express (86 St & 8 Av stops only) in 2015, posted by Gold_12th on Fri Dec 19 13:52:13 2014. Temporary platforms at 86th Street and Eighth Avenue, and Manhattan-bound trains will only stop there?Sounds like they'll build over the former E3 tracks and have a cross-platform transfer (solves the ADA issue). Coney Island Express, here we come! |
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Re: New info on MTA rehab (N) Sea Beach line; Manhattan express (86 St & 8 Av stops only) in 2015 |
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Posted by Ray Jules on Fri Dec 19 14:10:31 2014, in response to Re: New info on MTA rehab (N) Sea Beach line; Manhattan express (86 St & 8 Av stops only) in 2015, posted by SLRT on Fri Dec 19 14:01:54 2014. Where on earth will they put the temp platform at 86th? |
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Re: New info on MTA rehab (N) Sea Beach line; Manhattan express (86 St & 8 Av stops only) in 2015 |
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Posted by Mark S. Feinman on Fri Dec 19 14:14:31 2014, in response to New info on MTA rehab (N) Sea Beach line; Manhattan express (86 St & 8 Av stops only) in 2015, posted by Gold_12th on Fri Dec 19 13:52:13 2014. Two of the station, New Utrecht Avenue and Avenue U, are listed on the National Registry of Historic PlacesI haven't been to these stations in a long time ... what about them makes them historic? --Mark |
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Re: New info on MTA rehab (N) Sea Beach line; Manhattan express (86 St & 8 Av stops only) in 2015 |
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Posted by caine515 on Fri Dec 19 14:17:00 2014, in response to Re: New info on MTA rehab (N) Sea Beach line; Manhattan express (86 St & 8 Av stops only) in 2015, posted by Ray Jules on Fri Dec 19 14:10:31 2014. Probably be northbound express after the tunnel |
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Re: New info on MTA rehab (N) Sea Beach line; Manhattan express (86 St & 8 Av stops only) in 2015 |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Fri Dec 19 14:17:15 2014, in response to Re: New info on MTA rehab (N) Sea Beach line; Manhattan express (86 St & 8 Av stops only) in 2015, posted by Ray Jules on Fri Dec 19 14:10:31 2014. North of the station entrance. Track E3. |
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Re: New info on MTA rehab (N) Sea Beach line; Manhattan express (86 St & 8 Av stops only) in 2015 |
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Posted by SLRT on Fri Dec 19 14:20:39 2014, in response to Re: New info on MTA rehab (N) Sea Beach line; Manhattan express (86 St & 8 Av stops only) in 2015, posted by Mark S. Feinman on Fri Dec 19 14:14:31 2014. Eighth Avenue is fairly unique. Can't guess Avenue U. |
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Re: New info on MTA rehab (N) Sea Beach line; Manhattan express (86 St & 8 Av stops only) in 2015 |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Fri Dec 19 14:22:06 2014, in response to Re: New info on MTA rehab (N) Sea Beach line; Manhattan express (86 St & 8 Av stops only) in 2015, posted by Mark S. Feinman on Fri Dec 19 14:14:31 2014. New Urecht Avenue Station (Dual System BRT) (added 2005 - - #05000678)Beneath the jct. of New Utrecht Ave. with 15th Ave. and 62nd St. , Brooklyn Historic Significance: Event, Architecture/Engineering Architect, builder, or engineer: Craven, Alfred, Vickers, Squire J. Architectural Style: Other, Classical Revival Area of Significance: Transportation, Architecture, Engineering, Community Planning And Development, Social History Period of Significance: 1900-1924 Owner: State Historic Function: Government, Transportation Historic Sub-function: Public Works, Rail-Related Current Function: Government, Transportation Current Sub-function: Public Works, Rail-Related Avenue U Station (Dual System BRT) (added 2005 - - #05000675) Bet. Ave. U and Ave. T and 7th and 8th Sts. , Brooklyn Historic Significance: Architecture/Engineering, Event Architect, builder, or engineer: Vickers, Squire J., Craven, Alfred Architectural Style: Other Area of Significance: Architecture, Social History, Engineering, Transportation, Community Planning And Development Period of Significance: 1900-1924 Owner: State Historic Function: Government, Transportation Historic Sub-function: Public Works, Rail-Related Current Function: Government, Transportation Current Sub-function: Public Works, Rail-Related http://www.nationalregisterofhistoricplaces.com/NY/Kings/state.html I don't know why they select two station, not the entire line. |
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Re: New info on MTA rehab (N) Sea Beach line; Manhattan express (86 St & 8 Av stops only) in 2015 |
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Posted by SLRT on Fri Dec 19 14:29:26 2014, in response to Re: New info on MTA rehab (N) Sea Beach line; Manhattan express (86 St & 8 Av stops only) in 2015, posted by Gold_12th on Fri Dec 19 14:22:06 2014. They don't really explain the details of why it's significant, as the city landmarks did for Avenue H. |
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Re: New info on MTA rehab (N) Sea Beach line; Manhattan express (86 St & 8 Av stops only) in 2015 |
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Posted by caine515 on Sat Dec 20 13:02:33 2014, in response to Re: New info on MTA rehab (N) Sea Beach line; Manhattan express (86 St & 8 Av stops only) in 2015, posted by SLRT on Fri Dec 19 14:01:54 2014. are they rebuilding the station entrances too like they did on the Brighton Line or is a paint job only? |
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Re: New info on MTA rehab (N) Sea Beach line; Manhattan express (86 St & 8 Av stops only) in 2015 |
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Posted by northshore on Sat Dec 20 14:04:17 2014, in response to New info on MTA rehab (N) Sea Beach line; Manhattan express (86 St & 8 Av stops only) in 2015, posted by Gold_12th on Fri Dec 19 13:52:13 2014. I wish the Sea Beach Line stations would be restored to their original architectural splendor of Spanish Mission style architecture with white stucco walls and red tile roofs. |
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Re: New info on MTA rehab (N) Sea Beach line; Manhattan express (86 St & 8 Av stops only) in 2015 |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Sat Dec 20 14:27:17 2014, in response to Re: New info on MTA rehab (N) Sea Beach line; Manhattan express (86 St & 8 Av stops only) in 2015, posted by caine515 on Sat Dec 20 13:02:33 2014. everything will be rebuild. |
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Re: New info on MTA rehab (N) Sea Beach line; Manhattan express (86 St & 8 Av stops only) in 2015 |
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Posted by numbersix on Sat Dec 20 20:24:12 2014, in response to New info on MTA rehab (N) Sea Beach line; Manhattan express (86 St & 8 Av stops only) in 2015, posted by Gold_12th on Fri Dec 19 13:52:13 2014. Uncle Nunzio Concrete Co. wins contract for Sea Beach station rehab. |
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Re: New info on MTA rehab (N) Sea Beach line; Manhattan express (86 St & 8 Av stops only) in 2015 |
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Posted by numbersix on Sat Dec 20 20:41:01 2014, in response to Re: New info on MTA rehab (N) Sea Beach line; Manhattan express (86 St & 8 Av stops only) in 2015, posted by numbersix on Sat Dec 20 20:24:12 2014. Uncle Nunzio's Concrete starts work on the New Utrecht elevator.
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Re: New info on MTA rehab (N) Sea Beach line; Manhattan express (86 St & 8 Av stops only) in 2015 |
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Posted by SLRT on Sun Dec 21 10:12:31 2014, in response to Re: New info on MTA rehab (N) Sea Beach line; Manhattan express (86 St & 8 Av stops only) in 2015, posted by Gold_12th on Sat Dec 20 14:27:17 2014. My understanding is that the rebuild will respect histortical features which would include the distinctive station houses. |
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Re: New info on MTA rehab (N) Sea Beach line; Manhattan express (86 St & 8 Av stops only) in 2015 |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Sun Dec 21 10:31:12 2014, in response to New info on MTA rehab (N) Sea Beach line; Manhattan express (86 St & 8 Av stops only) in 2015, posted by Gold_12th on Fri Dec 19 13:52:13 2014. First off, long overdue.It would be nice if at least during rush hours they have a shuttle bus to bring people closer to the D train. Regarding the National Register of Historic Places, I'm not sure that makes them indestructible, just special. Special places can get facelifts, as far as I know. There's nothing about them that makes them untouchable. I'll bet they're even allowed to remove the station altogether if they leave some commemorative plaque or stone. |
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Re: New info on MTA rehab (N) Sea Beach line; Manhattan express (86 St & 8 Av stops only) in 2015 |
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Posted by Mark S. Feinman on Mon Dec 22 14:27:15 2014, in response to Re: New info on MTA rehab (N) Sea Beach line; Manhattan express (86 St & 8 Av stops only) in 2015, posted by Gold_12th on Fri Dec 19 14:22:06 2014. Yeah, several others are listed in a similar manner. Guess maybe they're representatives for the entire line. Thanks for the link.--Mark |
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Re: New info on MTA rehab (N) Sea Beach line; Manhattan express (86 St & 8 Av stops only) in 2015 |
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Posted by SLRT on Fri Dec 26 11:20:22 2014, in response to Re: New info on MTA rehab (N) Sea Beach line; Manhattan express (86 St & 8 Av stops only) in 2015, posted by New Flyer #857 on Sun Dec 21 10:31:12 2014. Avenue H was on the national register, I think, but it took NYC landmarks to protect it, and that was the exterior only. I really like the new interior, but it's much different from the old. |
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Re: New info on MTA rehab (N) Sea Beach line; Manhattan express (86 St & 8 Av stops only) in 2015 |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Fri Dec 26 12:32:40 2014, in response to Re: New info on MTA rehab (N) Sea Beach line; Manhattan express (86 St & 8 Av stops only) in 2015, posted by SLRT on Fri Dec 26 11:20:22 2014. Yup and too bad that after an extensive and expensive restoration of Avenue H, the MTA cannot even maintain this treasure graffiti-free! Wednesday I noticed graffiti on the brick walls of the station house on the southbound platform. |
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Re: New info on MTA rehab (N) Sea Beach line; Manhattan express (86 St & 8 Av stops only) in 2015 |
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Posted by SLRT on Fri Dec 26 13:00:34 2014, in response to Re: New info on MTA rehab (N) Sea Beach line; Manhattan express (86 St & 8 Av stops only) in 2015, posted by rbseabeach on Fri Dec 26 12:32:40 2014. That's a real shame. You have to keep on top of vandalism or it spreads. |
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Re: New info on MTA rehab (N) Sea Beach line; Manhattan express (86 St & 8 Av stops only) in 2015 |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Fri Dec 26 13:42:42 2014, in response to Re: New info on MTA rehab (N) Sea Beach line; Manhattan express (86 St & 8 Av stops only) in 2015, posted by SLRT on Fri Dec 26 13:00:34 2014. The Brighton Line stations have been dealt with vandalism every other month. The security cameras doesn't even deter the vandals. |
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Re: New info on MTA rehab (N) Sea Beach line; Manhattan express (86 St & 8 Av stops only) in 2015 |
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Posted by caine515 on Fri Dec 26 13:43:43 2014, in response to Re: New info on MTA rehab (N) Sea Beach line; Manhattan express (86 St & 8 Av stops only) in 2015, posted by rbseabeach on Fri Dec 26 12:32:40 2014. They will repaint...eventually |
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Re: New info on MTA rehab (N) Sea Beach line; Manhattan express (86 St & 8 Av stops only) in 2015 |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Fri Dec 26 16:45:06 2014, in response to Re: New info on MTA rehab (N) Sea Beach line; Manhattan express (86 St & 8 Av stops only) in 2015, posted by SLRT on Fri Dec 26 13:00:34 2014. yes, that is why I get so aggravated with the MTA's selective maintenance. I.e. track walls along the brighton, as the train leaves Cortelyou, Beverley etc, you can see a line on the walls where the graffiti-free program for the stations ends and the track walls begin. They should all be cleaned and maintained the same way. Eventually the vandals will get the message to stop tagging these walls because the TA will remove it within 48 hours. This is really the only true way to finally eliminate this vandalism. |
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Re: New info on MTA rehab (N) Sea Beach line; Manhattan express (86 St & 8 Av stops only) in 2015 |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Fri Dec 26 16:46:13 2014, in response to Re: New info on MTA rehab (N) Sea Beach line; Manhattan express (86 St & 8 Av stops only) in 2015, posted by Gold_12th on Fri Dec 26 13:42:42 2014. I had no idea. |
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Re: New info on MTA rehab (N) Sea Beach line; Manhattan express (86 St & 8 Av stops only) in 2015 |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Fri Dec 26 16:53:15 2014, in response to Re: New info on MTA rehab (N) Sea Beach line; Manhattan express (86 St & 8 Av stops only) in 2015, posted by caine515 on Fri Dec 26 13:43:43 2014. I compare the Brighton Track wall graffiti to the acid and scratch damaged glass on virtually every subway car after the spray paint and markers were dealt with regularly. The vandals knew that they could scratch the glass or use the etching acid and the tags would remain for years. Then after the NTT's were delivered and the TA used the protective glass screens the vandals eventually gave up. It is important to note that the plastic screens do not prevent scratching or acid, but it is easier for the TA to simply remove the damaged barrier and install another one. The bottom line is the vandals eventually realized that the TA is now maintaining the glass. Today it is very rare to see vandalized glass on subway cars, buses and even bus stop shelters. Now if they could only address elevator glass, glass panes in stations such as 50th & 8, 57th & 6th, Grand Central, that would make a difference. THey should also finally address the scratches on the interior walls of the R-62 / R-68. They have had those scratches for almost three decades now. |
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Re: New info on MTA rehab (N) Sea Beach line; Manhattan express (86 St & 8 Av stops only) in 2015 |
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Posted by SLRT on Fri Dec 26 19:44:58 2014, in response to Re: New info on MTA rehab (N) Sea Beach line; Manhattan express (86 St & 8 Av stops only) in 2015, posted by rbseabeach on Fri Dec 26 16:53:15 2014. Haven't the stained-glass mosaics on some stations been vandalized, like on the Fulton Street portion on the J line? |
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Re: New info on MTA rehab (N) Sea Beach line; Manhattan express (86 St & 8 Av stops only) in 2015 |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Dec 28 10:19:33 2014, in response to New info on MTA rehab (N) Sea Beach line; Manhattan express (86 St & 8 Av stops only) in 2015, posted by Gold_12th on Fri Dec 19 13:52:13 2014. Sea Beach Fred is going to love this.:) |
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