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Video of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton @ Myrtle Av (J)(M)(Z)

Posted by Gold_12th on Fri Nov 21 15:11:42 2014

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Footage obtained exclusively by PIX11 News Friday shows a violent encounter between a New York City police officer and an alleged fare beater at a Brooklyn subway station.

It happened just before 8 p.m. Thursday at the Myrtle/Broadway station, which services the J and M lines. A commuter on his way home from work captured the alleged rough arrest, apparently sparked by the suspect’s attempt to jump the turnstile.

The video begins with an officer cracking Donovan Lawson, 20, of Brooklyn, in the head with a nightstick — a move that is against department policy.

The man who captured the encounter on camera said it began with the officer using pepper spray against Lawson. That act is not shown in the video but NYPD confirmed that the officer did use the spray against the suspect.

The video goes on to show Lawson bleeding from his forehead and disoriented, stumbling and leading the officer around the station, the pair intertwined.

In a statement to PIX11 News, the department said the video is under review by the Internal Affairs unit.

A source within the NYPD said Lawson has no prior arrests to his name. Lawson faces charges of fare beating, resisting arrest, disorderly conduct and disrupting government administration in this case.

The 20-year-old was taken to a hospital as was the officer, who was treated for hand and wrist injuries, police said.

http://pix11.com/2014/11/21/caught-on-camera-nypd-officer-cracks-alleged-fare-beater-in-head-with-nightstick/

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(Raw video link): Video of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton

Posted by Gold_12th on Fri Nov 21 15:19:30 2014, in response to Video of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton @ Myrtle Av (J)(M)(Z), posted by Gold_12th on Fri Nov 21 15:11:42 2014.

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video link: from PIX 11 30 second clip, loop video.

Ouch.

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Re: Video of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton @ Myrtle Av (J)(M)(Z)

Posted by Peter Rosa on Fri Nov 21 15:28:12 2014, in response to Video of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton @ Myrtle Av (J)(M)(Z), posted by Gold_12th on Fri Nov 21 15:11:42 2014.

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Cases like this are why the NYPD should equip all cops with wearable GoPros. The savings from just one prevented excessive force lawsuit could be more that the program's entire cost.

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Re: (Raw video link): Video of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton

Posted by Elkeeper on Fri Nov 21 15:48:48 2014, in response to (Raw video link): Video of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton, posted by Gold_12th on Fri Nov 21 15:19:30 2014.

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The loser deserved what he got! Sorry, my bleeding hearts, but I'm old school! Now, we'll see his attorney from Schmuck and Schmucker on the TV, telling the world what a saint his client is!

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Re: (Raw video link): Video of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton

Posted by Edwards! on Fri Nov 21 16:39:50 2014, in response to Re: (Raw video link): Video of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton, posted by Elkeeper on Fri Nov 21 15:48:48 2014.

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What the fuck do you know about that kid to make an assumption like that?
Yeah,I'm Old School, too..just because he didn't pay his fare means he deserve to be sent to the damn hospital.

This is what gets me about you fucking subchatters, quick to sign off on some bullshit...until it happens to your dumb ass.

Feel like jay walking,you get your ass kicked like that fellow did earlier this year...feet on a seat..sitting on a cratebox...bag on the seat..crossing between cars..refusing a bag search.. can get your ass kicked by a Leary cop...
Even walking down a housing project stairwell can get you killed,as seen today!
He didn't deserve 'what he got'...what he deserved was a ticket for fare beating...not a hospital visit.
Bottom line, you need to taste some of that ass kicking yourself,so next time you won't be so quick to jump on the band wagon that hurtling people, bastard.

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Re: (Raw video link): Video of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Nov 21 17:32:12 2014, in response to Re: (Raw video link): Video of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton, posted by Edwards! on Fri Nov 21 16:39:50 2014.

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He was resisting, that's why he deserved what he got. No cop would ever use force just to summons a farebeater. And could you please watch your language.

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Re: (Raw video link): Video of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton

Posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Nov 21 17:58:13 2014, in response to Re: (Raw video link): Video of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton, posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Nov 21 17:32:12 2014.

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The cop is not going to fight with you or whop you with a stick if you did not resist or fight with him. Once you are confronted by an officer, you stop and do what he says.

ROAR

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(4 minute uncut raw video) of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton

Posted by Gold_12th on Fri Nov 21 19:03:28 2014, in response to (Raw video link): Video of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton, posted by Gold_12th on Fri Nov 21 15:19:30 2014.

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There's no need to hit him in the head.

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Re: (4 minute uncut raw video) of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton

Posted by rkba on Fri Nov 21 19:07:36 2014, in response to (4 minute uncut raw video) of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton, posted by Gold_12th on Fri Nov 21 19:03:28 2014.

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no need for him to jump the turnstile either. womp womp womp.

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Re: (Raw video link): Video of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton

Posted by rkba on Fri Nov 21 19:12:36 2014, in response to Re: (Raw video link): Video of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton, posted by Edwards! on Fri Nov 21 16:39:50 2014.

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everything you quoted is SAVAGE BEHAVIOR. act like a mope, get treated like a mope!

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Re: (Raw video link): Video of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton

Posted by Edwards! on Fri Nov 21 22:32:12 2014, in response to Re: (Raw video link): Video of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton, posted by rkba on Fri Nov 21 19:12:36 2014.

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Fuck you,cunt eatter.
You are The Savage trying to live under the cover of 'respectability'.
You are the cunt who condones any violence,doesn't matter where it comes from,then in a inbreeded moment of arrogance... has the nerve to be critical of someone.

You've got nerve,you beastly bastard...but then again you are a savage pretending to be civilised,hoping nobody will see you for the 'walking on all fours,mating with wild animals,sleeping in caves',animal you always were.

Let's move on a bit...
In all actuality,you wear your bigotry on you like a badge of honor, thinking your little snide off the cuff racist remarks are clever..
In reality, all you've done was become your own billboard advertisement, calling attention To Your bitchassness.

Congratulations, dick...I've decided to do you one better by posting All of your racist crap on my blog...and some of my friends.
We are going to find this bigoted bastard(YOU)... Out you for all to see.

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Re: (Raw video link): Video of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton

Posted by Edwards! on Fri Nov 21 22:40:10 2014, in response to Re: (Raw video link): Video of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton, posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Nov 21 17:32:12 2014.

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Don't fucking tell me what to do,on Any day of the week.
Again,how the fuck do you know What he was doing After the Pepper Spray to the face?
Not to mention how he was hemmed up in the corner...how much 'resistance'could he have done with his face on fire?

That's a favorite of you cops,right?
He resisted...so you had to bash his head in to make him passive to more brutality ?
Fuck You,Jeff..

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Re: (Raw video link): Video of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton

Posted by Edwards! on Fri Nov 21 22:54:59 2014, in response to Re: (Raw video link): Video of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton, posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Nov 21 17:58:13 2014.

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I have no problem with that,since I am well versed with my civil/constitutional rights regarding Police contact.

The Problem is that there are a large group of people out there who do not...which is Why We have an after school program and Day program one hour class specifically For this..with a police Sargent attending from the 90th Precent.


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Re: (Raw video link): Video of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Nov 22 03:03:50 2014, in response to Re: (Raw video link): Video of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton, posted by Edwards! on Fri Nov 21 22:32:12 2014.

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iawtp

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Re: (Raw video link): Video of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton

Posted by Edwards! on Sat Nov 22 03:28:32 2014, in response to Re: (Raw video link): Video of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton, posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Nov 21 17:58:13 2014.

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That a bunch of bullshit.
You do what he Asks Within reason..and if it is Not a clear violation of your rights.
Like I said..I'm good friends with a few lawyers, the assistant of the DA,who as a specialist concerning police brutality,eats cases like this one for breakfast.

So..you dudes talk smack here...while my friends and I try to stop the abuse and murder of our young men and women by short police.

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Re: (Raw video link): Video of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sat Nov 22 05:30:25 2014, in response to Re: (Raw video link): Video of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton, posted by Edwards! on Fri Nov 21 22:40:10 2014.

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Can you please watch your language here?

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Re: Video of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton @ Myrtle Av (J)(M)(Z)

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Nov 22 09:39:35 2014, in response to Video of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton @ Myrtle Av (J)(M)(Z), posted by Gold_12th on Fri Nov 21 15:11:42 2014.

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This thread should be taken to Off Topic.

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Re: (Raw video link): Video of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton

Posted by Joe V on Sat Nov 22 13:19:17 2014, in response to Re: (Raw video link): Video of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton, posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Nov 21 17:58:13 2014.

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With Ferguson, MO decision about to come out, good thing this was Black on Black.

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Re: (Raw video link): Video of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton

Posted by rkba on Sat Nov 22 16:08:18 2014, in response to Re: (Raw video link): Video of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton, posted by Edwards! on Fri Nov 21 22:32:12 2014.

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haha. good luck.

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Re: (Raw video link): Video of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton

Posted by Elkeeper on Sun Nov 23 21:02:36 2014, in response to Re: (Raw video link): Video of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sat Nov 22 05:30:25 2014.

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Assuming that some of us will still be around in 20 years from now, we'll still be having the same debate! Just like we had it 20 years ago!


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Re: Video of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton @ Myrtle Av (J)(M)(Z)

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Nov 24 00:40:43 2014, in response to Video of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton @ Myrtle Av (J)(M)(Z), posted by Gold_12th on Fri Nov 21 15:11:42 2014.

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Where is eric (weeneie) holder. We need a civil rights investigation here.

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Re: (4 minute uncut raw video) of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Nov 24 01:20:47 2014, in response to (4 minute uncut raw video) of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton, posted by Gold_12th on Fri Nov 21 19:03:28 2014.

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if you resist arrest, you are a threat to cops.

cop probably told him to put his hands behind his back and the kid being taught at a young age to provoke cops got the response he wanted.

I don't like cops. I find them to be paranoid and confrontational but if you just let them write their ticket they usually go away.

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Re: Video of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton @ Myrtle Av (J)(M)(Z)

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Nov 24 13:28:56 2014, in response to Video of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton @ Myrtle Av (J)(M)(Z), posted by Gold_12th on Fri Nov 21 15:11:42 2014.

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When are people going to realize that when you commit a crime or violation and the police go to take summary action against you, if you resist in any way,shape, or form, you are going to lose? If he would have obeyed the officer from the get-go, that wouldn't have had to happen.

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Re: Video of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton @ Myrtle Av (J)(M)(Z)

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 24 13:32:40 2014, in response to Re: Video of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton @ Myrtle Av (J)(M)(Z), posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Nov 24 13:28:56 2014.

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When are people going to realize that police aren't saints, and when they take summary action against suspects, they are not necessarily acting in a reasonable manner?

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Re: Video of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton @ Myrtle Av (J)(M)(Z)

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Nov 24 13:37:40 2014, in response to Re: Video of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton @ Myrtle Av (J)(M)(Z), posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 24 13:32:40 2014.

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True, but define "reasonable"? Bottom line is if the guy hopped the train, he is 100% in the wrong and even more foolish to resist.

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Re: Video of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton @ Myrtle Av (J)(M)(Z)

Posted by Edwards! on Mon Nov 24 22:03:29 2014, in response to Re: Video of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton @ Myrtle Av (J)(M)(Z), posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Nov 24 13:37:40 2014.

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True.
His Guilt over theft of services is Not the issue,since that has already been established.

What has Not been established is the events that led up to him being hospitalized with a cracked skull.
From the perspectives shown,he was ALREADY SUBDUED,cringing on the bench when he was struck again.

Look,my involvement here is sorely based the method of his arrest,not his guilt of it.The Usual line you hear from police when an arrest goes south is 'he/she resisted arrest',when its obviously not true.

As I said in the past, not every arrest will be smooth or easy...

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Re: Video of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton @ Myrtle Av (J)(M)(Z)

Posted by G1Ravage on Mon Nov 24 22:27:58 2014, in response to Re: Video of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton @ Myrtle Av (J)(M)(Z), posted by Edwards! on Mon Nov 24 22:03:29 2014.

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How are you subdued if you're not in handcuffs and still resisting arrest?

Is an order of "put your hands behind your back" so difficult to perform?

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Re: Video of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton @ Myrtle Av (J)(M)(Z)

Posted by Edwards! on Tue Nov 25 00:50:21 2014, in response to Re: Video of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton @ Myrtle Av (J)(M)(Z), posted by G1Ravage on Mon Nov 24 22:27:58 2014.

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During boot camp...we were given gasmasks and sent into a room.
Before we went in,we we told the Purpose of the excersise.
Though the point of Telling us was to prepare us for what was to come..it did nothing to blunt the impact of the gas,that stung our eyes...burned our skin..caused sever nausea and vomiting resulting in a pretty horrible afternoon.

I remember it well..never forgot that smell...
You are pretty much useless after that for PT until you Recover..

when I became a peace officer,we were given a taste of what Pepper Spray and Taser was like...Not fun..painful.
You are Subdued.. and need time to recover.

So..after getting a face FULL of PEPPER SPRAY.. doesn't he look subdued.. cringing on the bench...
After getting his fuckinghead split open by a lead lined night stick..does he look jacked up enough for you?

Have You been cracked in your head by something so hard it made you want to run away...had pepper spray to the face?



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Re: (4 minute uncut raw video) of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 25 01:12:39 2014, in response to (4 minute uncut raw video) of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton, posted by Gold_12th on Fri Nov 21 19:03:28 2014.

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Rule #1: Do not resist legitimate authority.
Rule #2: You should not expect preferential treatment simply because you and the arresting officer have the same ethnicity.
Rule #3: Any questions, refer to rules #1 & #2

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Re: (4 minute uncut raw video) of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton

Posted by Edwards! on Tue Nov 25 01:35:32 2014, in response to Re: (4 minute uncut raw video) of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton, posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 25 01:12:39 2014.

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Well,rule numbed one should be don't commit a crime to bring attention to yourself in the first place.
Second..off times,you'll get treated Worse be a cop who's is of similar race...
Any information I get From Police concerning 'community policing',I speak about it at weekly meetings.. Young Empowerment Groups.. one on one council..
This is no different.. No Police Contact,Period.

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Re: (4 minute uncut raw video) of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 25 01:41:33 2014, in response to Re: (4 minute uncut raw video) of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton, posted by Edwards! on Tue Nov 25 01:35:32 2014.

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You are correct - especially about what Rule #1 should be

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Re: (4 minute uncut raw video) of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton

Posted by FtGreeneG on Tue Nov 25 02:20:05 2014, in response to Re: (4 minute uncut raw video) of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton, posted by Edwards! on Tue Nov 25 01:35:32 2014.

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+1. A lot of the time a cop of similar race has something to prove to their peers.

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Re: (4 minute uncut raw video) of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 25 02:47:07 2014, in response to Re: (4 minute uncut raw video) of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton, posted by FtGreeneG on Tue Nov 25 02:20:05 2014.

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More than that ... many Black people who join the force do so because they're outraged by the behavior in their own communities and are determined to do something to stop it. Often, they're a bit more determined than most and tend to be harder on their own out of embarrassment or other personal reasons. When Black people join the force, the community is often rougher on them for joining the po-po and that resentment can build. Sadder yet, too many go off on their own instead of using their position to help and teach and instruct. It's VERY hard to be Black *and* 5-oh.

In other words, "don't be doing this in my face, I joined the force to stop people like you." Once again, family. I've heard that first hand. My own family is more multi-cultured than most of America which is the reason why bingbong and I have gotten tired of the games here.

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Re: (4 minute uncut raw video) of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton

Posted by FtGreeneG on Tue Nov 25 03:01:44 2014, in response to Re: (4 minute uncut raw video) of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 25 02:47:07 2014.

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Iawtp. I can def understand why u stop posting. Just know some of us do appreciate what you both bring to these boards!

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Re: (4 minute uncut raw video) of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton

Posted by chud1 on Tue Nov 25 07:14:58 2014, in response to Re: (4 minute uncut raw video) of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton, posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 25 01:12:39 2014.

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IAWTP!
chud1.
:)....

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Re: (4 minute uncut raw video) of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton

Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Nov 25 07:47:13 2014, in response to Re: (4 minute uncut raw video) of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 25 02:47:07 2014.

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Oh sh*t look who decided to show up.

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Re: (4 minute uncut raw video) of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton

Posted by train dude on Tue Nov 25 09:01:33 2014, in response to Re: (4 minute uncut raw video) of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton, posted by FtGreeneG on Tue Nov 25 02:20:05 2014.

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Or maybe this officer got human for a moment and hit the young perp once to many times because of the emotions of the moment. What he did could be viewed as excessive but as usual we only see the action from where the recording began. Then again, think how this whole episode would have been portrayed here and in the media had the officer not been "of color", too.


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Re: (4 minute uncut raw video) of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton

Posted by pd11604 on Tue Nov 25 18:42:29 2014, in response to Re: (4 minute uncut raw video) of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton, posted by FtGreeneG on Tue Nov 25 03:01:44 2014.

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IAWTP! glad to see you back

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Re: (4 minute uncut raw video) of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton

Posted by Edwards! on Tue Nov 25 21:33:46 2014, in response to Re: (4 minute uncut raw video) of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 25 02:47:07 2014.

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Know I haven't seen you around much lately...and I understand.
You nailed it right on the head about 'black cops'...
Brother in Law told me the Exact same thing,which pushed me to community involvement way back when...even had him say it straight up to a bunch of youngster's... to get them to understand this isn't a game out there.
The Police mean business.

Good to hear from you,UNC.

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Re: (4 minute uncut raw video) of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton

Posted by Edwards! on Tue Nov 25 21:33:47 2014, in response to Re: (4 minute uncut raw video) of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 25 02:47:07 2014.

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Know I haven't seen you around much lately...and I understand.
You nailed it right on the head about 'black cops'...
Brother in Law told me the Exact same thing,which pushed me to community involvement way back when...even had him say it straight up to a bunch of youngster's... to get them to understand this isn't a game out there.
The Police mean business.

Good to hear from you,UNC.

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Re: (4 minute uncut raw video) of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 25 21:44:21 2014, in response to Re: (4 minute uncut raw video) of Black NYPD officer cracks alleged fare beater in head w/ a baton, posted by Edwards! on Tue Nov 25 21:33:46 2014.

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Moo! And happy gobble-gobble to you and the family! :)

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