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Posted by Dave on Sun Oct 19 11:12:17 2014 edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Last week I had a photo job shooting a Business Car trip. BNSF has a business car train that pulls four to eighteen cars, depending upon the trip. This particular day it pulled twelve cars: Business Cars Car No. Glacier View BNSF 30 Rear car; observation end to the rear Mountain View BNSF 28 Next to Glacier View Lake Superior BNSF 10 Kitchen end to Mountain View Valley View BNSF 29 Next to Lake Superior Bay View BNSF 31 Next to Valley View; seats facing east Flathead River BNSF 41 Next to Bay View Colorado River BNSF 44 Next to Flathead River Powder River BNSF 45 Next to Colorado River Fox River BNSF 40 Next to Powder River Fred Harvey BNSF 11 Kitchen end to Fox River Missouri River BNSF 04 Vestibule to Mt Rainer Mt Rainer BNSF 51 Head car Motive power was two BNSF ES44C4's led by FWWR SD40R #2023 (Ex-GCFX 3102, ex-SP 8913, ex-SP 7369, nee SP 8455). The train backs into Ft. Worth's Stockyard Station and the motive power uncouples from the train then pulls forward so as to not block 23rd St.: BNSF police guard the crossing: All is quite on the station lead before the train arrives: And then the train arrives, backing into the station. Bringing up the rear is Glacier View, Full Dome /Theater Lounge, nee-GN 1390, built in 1955: Followed by Club/Lounge Mountain View, nee-GN, built by ACF in 1951: Next was dining car Lake Superior, nee-NP, built by Budd in 1958. The car has dining accommodations for 48 people: Then Club/Lounge Valley View, nee-ATSF, built in 1947 by Pullman: Next is Full Dome/Lounge Bay View, nee-ATSF, built in 1954 by Budd. It was bought for service on the famed El Capitan: In front of BV was Bi-Level Coach Flathead River, nee-SP, built in 1955 by Pullman. The car's passenger capacity is a total of 43 people, this being divided into a 20-person capacity in the lower level, and a 23-person capacity in the upper level: Moving ahead was Bi-Level Coach Colorado River and Powder River, both built in 1955 by Pullman and configured the same as Flathead River: Recently painted and serviced (note the COT&S date) GCS 41 truck: Next was Bi-Level Coach/Lounge Fox River, nee SP-3703. There is a bar which adjoins the service area: Moving ahead was dining car Fred Harvey, built by Pullman in 1950 for the ATSF: Coupled to FH was sleeper Missouri River. Built in 1955 for NP, the car is handicap-equipped, remodeled in 1982, and has accommodations of staterooms A and B, complete with double beds. There is dining space for 8 people, and observation seating for 7: And just behind the motive power was Baggage/Power car Mt. Ranier, built in 1964 by Pullman for the ATSF: Motive power uncoupled leaving the train for boarding at Stockyard Station: While passengers arrived to get their name tags, I hopped on board to take some pictures while the cars were empty except for the crew. Here we see some of the passengers gathering; Hood County election commissioners: Engineer with his proud parents: Once home to cowboys, cattlemen and outlaws, today the Stockyards National Historic District is one of the most popular attractions in Texas. The streets are lined with historic buildings, restaurants, shops, saloons and other attractions. From 1890 until the 1950's, the Stockyards was a very important livestock center, with over a million head of cattle sold in 1907. This heritage is remembered with a twice daily cattle drive, a.k.a., "The Herd": Attendants ready for work: Flathead River: Valley View. Note the ATSF logo on the tables: Galley cars upper and lower. Only the rear five cars were used for passengers; the forward seven cars were for crew only: Life's uncertain; eat dessert first: Food ready for the feasting! Missouri River: Lounge/bar car: Bay View And away we went. The view from the theater window in Glacier View is really neat to see: And at the end of the trip, our engineer poses proudly on his iron horse: I worked my tail off that trip and enjoyed every minute of it! I hope you enjoy the pictures.
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Posted by Dave* on Sun Oct 19 11:13:19 2014, in response to BNSF-Fort Worth & Western excursion, posted by Dave on Sun Oct 19 11:12:17 2014.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d One more photo:
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Posted by chud1* on Sun Oct 19 12:19:18 2014, in response to BNSF-Fort Worth & Western excursion, posted by Dave on Sun Oct 19 11:12:17 2014.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d 5 drooling stars out of 5 drooling stars for these great pictures. chud1. :)....
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Posted by chud1* on Sun Oct 19 12:20:19 2014, in response to Re: BNSF-Fort Worth & Western excursion, posted by Dave on Sun Oct 19 11:13:19 2014.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d 5 drooling stars out of 5 drooling stars for this picture. chud1. :)....
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com* on Sun Oct 19 13:53:37 2014, in response to BNSF-Fort Worth & Western excursion, posted by Dave on Sun Oct 19 11:12:17 2014.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d nice photos
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Posted by Dave* on Sun Oct 19 16:18:15 2014, in response to Re: BNSF-Fort Worth & Western excursion, posted by chud1 on Sun Oct 19 12:20:19 2014.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Thanks!
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Posted by Dave* on Sun Oct 19 16:18:27 2014, in response to Re: BNSF-Fort Worth & Western excursion, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Oct 19 13:53:37 2014.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Thank you!
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Posted by ChicagoPCCLCars* on Sun Oct 19 16:18:37 2014, in response to BNSF-Fort Worth & Western excursion, posted by Dave on Sun Oct 19 11:12:17 2014.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Excellent job sir. DH
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Re: BNSF-Fort Worth & Western excursion
Posted by Dave* on Sun Oct 19 16:35:53 2014, in response to Re: BNSF-Fort Worth & Western excursion, posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Sun Oct 19 16:18:37 2014.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Thanks! It was a lot of fun.
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Posted by chud1* on Sun Oct 19 16:56:10 2014, in response to Re: BNSF-Fort Worth & Western excursion, posted by Dave on Sun Oct 19 16:18:15 2014.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d ur welcome Dave. chud1. :)....
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Re: BNSF-Fort Worth & Western excursion
Posted by Terrapin Station* on Sun Oct 19 18:49:33 2014, in response to BNSF-Fort Worth & Western excursion, posted by Dave on Sun Oct 19 11:12:17 2014.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Got interior shots of the modified gallery cars? The ones with the big upper level windows and no lower level windows? Thanks.
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Re: BNSF-Fort Worth & Western excursion
Posted by Dave* on Sun Oct 19 19:01:24 2014, in response to Re: BNSF-Fort Worth & Western excursion, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Oct 19 18:49:33 2014.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d No, sorry.
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Posted by Terrapin Station* on Sun Oct 19 19:42:25 2014, in response to Re: BNSF-Fort Worth & Western excursion, posted by Dave on Sun Oct 19 19:01:24 2014.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Aw, shucks. Could you describe them in 500 words or less?
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Re: BNSF-Fort Worth & Western excursion
Posted by MTA T* on Sun Oct 19 19:59:46 2014, in response to Re: BNSF-Fort Worth & Western excursion, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Oct 19 19:42:25 2014.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d They first came out of hand without A A tutti it the best way of saying life the way you love it when so you can know how to get my hair nails and eyebrows the are the same best only one that has to be in my ass in my best same first day of the best thing FILED UNDER A ROCK AND ROLL OUT THE WINDOW TO SEE MY FIRST PLACE FOR ME THE MOST RECENT IMPORTANT BEAUTIFUL AND THE FIRST HALF AND I LOVE DON'T LIVE IN AMBIANCE THE SAME THING OVER AS THE FIRST BEST THING FRIEND AND A GOOD TIME Y TO GET MY SAME AS I HAVE NO MONEY HITLER THE SAME TIME AND MONEY AND TO FOR THE REST NEXT YO YOU AND BUT IN MY ROOM FOR JEWS ARE NOT TOO BAD.
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Re: BNSF-Fort Worth & Western excursion
Posted by Dave* on Sun Oct 19 21:44:01 2014, in response to Re: BNSF-Fort Worth & Western excursion, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Oct 19 19:42:25 2014.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d The car's passenger capacity is a total of 43 people, divided into a 20-person capacity in the lower level, and a 23-person capacity in the upper level.
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Posted by 3-9* on Sun Oct 19 22:04:26 2014, in response to BNSF-Fort Worth & Western excursion, posted by Dave on Sun Oct 19 11:12:17 2014.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Very nice shots, it looked fun! Thanks for sharing the pics!
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Posted by Terrapin Station* on Sun Oct 19 22:31:50 2014, in response to Re: BNSF-Fort Worth & Western excursion, posted by Dave on Sun Oct 19 21:44:01 2014.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Thanks. No windows on the lower level. So what do people look at?
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Posted by WillD* on Mon Oct 20 03:01:55 2014, in response to Re: BNSF-Fort Worth & Western excursion, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Oct 19 18:49:33 2014.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d I was interested in shots of those interiors as well. There are a couple of photos of the interiors of Fox River and Colorado River on RRPictureArchives, if you have patience to wait on their server: IMHO the photo of Colorado River's interior is most interesting. It looks like the floor is still several feet below the bottom of the window. It seems difficult to squeeze a lower level between the upper level floor and the carbody floor.
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Posted by WillD* on Mon Oct 20 04:43:27 2014, in response to BNSF-Fort Worth & Western excursion, posted by Dave on Sun Oct 19 11:12:17 2014.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Excellent photos. Thank you for sharing with us. Interesting how the SD40-2 still has the headlight displaced for the mars light.
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Re: BNSF-Fort Worth & Western excursion
Posted by Dave* on Mon Oct 20 08:10:53 2014, in response to Re: BNSF-Fort Worth & Western excursion, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Oct 19 22:31:50 2014.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d The feet and asses of the people above?
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Re: BNSF-Fort Worth & Western excursion
Posted by Dave* on Mon Oct 20 08:23:45 2014, in response to Re: BNSF-Fort Worth & Western excursion, posted by WillD on Mon Oct 20 03:01:55 2014.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Forgot I had these two. The first is from Flathead River and the second from Colorado River:
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Re: BNSF-Fort Worth & Western excursion
Posted by Dave* on Mon Oct 20 08:24:11 2014, in response to Re: BNSF-Fort Worth & Western excursion, posted by 3-9 on Sun Oct 19 22:04:26 2014.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d You're welcome!
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Posted by Dave* on Mon Oct 20 08:27:34 2014, in response to Re: BNSF-Fort Worth & Western excursion, posted by WillD on Mon Oct 20 04:43:27 2014.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Thanks, Will. 2023 is a SD40R, not a SD40-2.
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Posted by Terrapin Station* on Mon Oct 20 08:46:07 2014, in response to Re: BNSF-Fort Worth & Western excursion, posted by Dave on Mon Oct 20 08:23:45 2014.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Awesome!
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Posted by Terrapin Station* on Mon Oct 20 08:46:40 2014, in response to Re: BNSF-Fort Worth & Western excursion, posted by Dave on Mon Oct 20 08:10:53 2014.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Interesting.
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Re: BNSF-Fort Worth & Western excursion
Posted by Terrapin Station* on Mon Oct 20 08:47:23 2014, in response to Re: BNSF-Fort Worth & Western excursion, posted by WillD on Mon Oct 20 03:01:55 2014.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Thanks!!! I agree with your statement.
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Re: BNSF-Fort Worth & Western excursion
Posted by Terrapin Station* on Mon Oct 20 08:48:17 2014, in response to Re: BNSF-Fort Worth & Western excursion, posted by WillD on Mon Oct 20 03:01:55 2014.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d The old windows were probably seated shoulder height though.
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Posted by Express Rider* on Mon Oct 20 08:57:19 2014, in response to Re: BNSF-Fort Worth & Western excursion, posted by Dave on Mon Oct 20 08:10:53 2014.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d What a sneaky to advertise Florsheims!
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Posted by Express Rider* on Mon Oct 20 09:03:34 2014, in response to BNSF-Fort Worth & Western excursion, posted by Dave on Sun Oct 19 11:12:17 2014.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Excellend photos! Thank you for posting these!
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Posted by kp5308* on Mon Oct 20 09:35:33 2014, in response to BNSF-Fort Worth & Western excursion, posted by Dave on Sun Oct 19 11:12:17 2014.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Nice report & most excellent shots Dave! One question: wasn't the El Cap an all hi level train with the full length domes usually on the Super Chief?
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Posted by Dave* on Mon Oct 20 09:57:19 2014, in response to Re: BNSF-Fort Worth & Western excursion, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Oct 20 08:46:40 2014.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d See the pictures I posted later in the thread, Brian.
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Re: BNSF-Fort Worth & Western excursion
Posted by Dave* on Mon Oct 20 09:58:01 2014, in response to Re: BNSF-Fort Worth & Western excursion, posted by Express Rider on Mon Oct 20 09:03:34 2014.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d You're welcome!
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Re: BNSF-Fort Worth & Western excursion
Posted by Dave* on Mon Oct 20 10:05:08 2014, in response to Re: BNSF-Fort Worth & Western excursion, posted by kp5308 on Mon Oct 20 09:35:33 2014.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Depends upon the year, Kevin. Up until the early 1950's traditional equipment was used: coaches, lunch counter-diner, coach-observation, etc. In 1953-54, 14 "Big Dome" coach-lounge cars were purchased by the Sante Fe. The Big Domes remained part of the El Cap for two years. In 1956 the train was re-equipped with 47 Hi-Level cars. In 1964, 68 more Hi-Level cars were purchased.
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Posted by Dave* on Mon Oct 20 10:05:49 2014, in response to Re: BNSF-Fort Worth & Western excursion, posted by Dave on Mon Oct 20 09:57:19 2014.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Oops, sorry...I see you did!
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman* on Mon Oct 20 10:21:40 2014, in response to BNSF-Fort Worth & Western excursion, posted by Dave on Sun Oct 19 11:12:17 2014.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d very nice
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Posted by kp5308* on Mon Oct 20 11:29:43 2014, in response to Re: BNSF-Fort Worth & Western excursion, posted by Dave on Mon Oct 20 10:05:08 2014.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Thanks bud.....once again, good job :o)
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Re: BNSF-Fort Worth & Western excursion
Posted by Dave* on Mon Oct 20 11:59:27 2014, in response to Re: BNSF-Fort Worth & Western excursion, posted by kp5308 on Mon Oct 20 11:29:43 2014.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d YW.
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Posted by Dave* on Mon Oct 20 12:01:06 2014, in response to Re: BNSF-Fort Worth & Western excursion, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Oct 20 10:21:40 2014.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Thanks, Irwin!
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Re: BNSF-Fort Worth & Western excursion
Posted by chud1* on Mon Oct 20 16:07:10 2014, in response to Re: BNSF-Fort Worth & Western excursion, posted by Dave on Mon Oct 20 08:23:45 2014.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d 5 drooling stars out of 5 drooling stars for these pictures. chud1.
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Posted by 3-9* on Mon Oct 20 18:06:28 2014, in response to Re: BNSF-Fort Worth & Western excursion, posted by Dave on Mon Oct 20 08:23:45 2014.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Nice design! Even after all these years they still look good (unless those aren't original furniture or duplicates of the original). Thanks for the pics!
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Re: BNSF-Fort Worth & Western excursion
Posted by WillD* on Tue Oct 21 06:10:04 2014, in response to Re: BNSF-Fort Worth & Western excursion, posted by Dave on Mon Oct 20 08:27:34 2014.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d It's got porches, it's a Dash 2. No need to rivet count :)
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Re: BNSF-Fort Worth & Western excursion
Posted by Dave* on Tue Oct 21 07:48:35 2014, in response to Re: BNSF-Fort Worth & Western excursion, posted by WillD on Tue Oct 21 06:10:04 2014.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d LOL!
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Re: BNSF-Fort Worth & Western excursion
Posted by Dave* on Tue Oct 21 07:49:25 2014, in response to Re: BNSF-Fort Worth & Western excursion, posted by 3-9 on Mon Oct 20 18:06:28 2014.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d That's a good question. Considering the age of the cars I would think those are replicas but you never know!
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Posted by Dave* on Tue Oct 21 07:49:44 2014, in response to Re: BNSF-Fort Worth & Western excursion, posted by chud1 on Mon Oct 20 16:07:10 2014.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Thank you!
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Posted by chud1* on Tue Oct 21 07:54:08 2014, in response to Re: BNSF-Fort Worth & Western excursion, posted by Dave on Tue Oct 21 07:49:44 2014.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d tr welcome Dave. chud1. :)....
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