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Re: 7 Line Extension to Open February 24, 2015 |
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Posted by The silence on Wed Oct 1 11:04:41 2014, in response to 7 Line Extension to Open February 24, 2015, posted by Andy on Wed Oct 1 09:25:53 2014. ...New South Ferry terminal...Also these tracks are built new, Lenox Terminal was built by plopping a platform where a yard track used to be. |
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Re: 7 Line Extension to Open February 24, 2015 |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 1 12:11:18 2014, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension to Open February 24, 2015, posted by The silence on Wed Oct 1 11:04:41 2014. But like Lenox, they serve a new station rather than a replacement.The last IRT extension to both serve a new market and involve new trackage was the Flushing extension to Main Street in 1928. Dyre doesn't count as it was a conversion of existing infrastructure. |
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Re: 7 Line Extension to Open February 24, 2015 |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Wed Oct 1 12:19:34 2014, in response to 7 Line Extension to Open February 24, 2015, posted by Andy on Wed Oct 1 09:25:53 2014. "February 24, 2015"Wanna bet? |
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Re: 7 Line Extension to Open February 24, 2015 |
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Posted by Edwards! on Wed Oct 1 13:37:05 2014, in response to 7 Line Extension to Open February 24, 2015, posted by Andy on Wed Oct 1 09:25:53 2014. Why in the world is the MTA giving these guys a bonus for completing a project that's already WAY behind schedule,instead of a fine?Everyone knows that this contractor/contractors milked this project... |
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Re: 7 Line Extension to Open February 24, 2015 |
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Posted by terRAPIN sTaTiOn on Wed Oct 1 13:43:05 2014, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension to Open February 24, 2015, posted by Edwards! on Wed Oct 1 13:37:05 2014. Why in the world is the MTA giving these guys a bonus for completing a project that's already WAY behind schedule,instead of a fine?I'm just guessing here, but possibly because there may have been bonuses in the original contract and the contractor argued that he would have met the original deadline and earned those bonuses had the specific issues that caused the delay not occurred, and that those specific issues were not his fault. Just a completely uneducated guess. I have no basis for most of this. Everyone knows that this contractor/contractors milked this project...Completerly incorrect. You have no idea what you are talking about. And you obviously also didn't even read the whole article. |
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Re: 7 Line Extension to Open February 24, 2015 |
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Posted by The Silence on Wed Oct 1 14:20:51 2014, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension to Open February 24, 2015, posted by Edwards! on Wed Oct 1 13:37:05 2014. So you want them to fine the contractor for someone else's F-up..? |
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Russianoff does standup -Re: 7 Line Extension to Open February 24, 2015 |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Oct 1 15:13:29 2014, in response to 7 Line Extension to Open February 24, 2015, posted by Andy on Wed Oct 1 09:25:53 2014. "Most of the more recent delays were the result of key equipment failing during factory tests for the two inclined elevators."" . . . said Gene Russianoff of the Straphangers Campaign. “Many subway riders are already inclined . . . to expect delays on big MTA projects.” " |
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Re: Russianoff does standup -Re: 7 Line Extension to Open February 24, 2015 |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Oct 1 15:29:02 2014, in response to Russianoff does standup -Re: 7 Line Extension to Open February 24, 2015, posted by italianstallion on Wed Oct 1 15:13:29 2014. A new Seinfeld! |
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Re: 7 Line Extension to Open February 24, 2015 |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Wed Oct 1 15:55:29 2014, in response to 7 Line Extension to Open February 24, 2015, posted by Andy on Wed Oct 1 09:25:53 2014. The article never says Feb. 24 will be the opening day. It just says the contractor gets a bonus if the work is completed by that date. |
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Re: 7 Line Extension to Open February 24, 2015 |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Oct 1 18:52:06 2014, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension to Open February 24, 2015, posted by Edwards! on Wed Oct 1 13:37:05 2014. Contractor build what they are told to build how they are told to build. Penalizing them for doing what they were told to do isn't fair. |
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Re: 7 Line Extension to Open February 24, 2015 |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Oct 1 19:01:37 2014, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension to Open February 24, 2015, posted by The silence on Wed Oct 1 11:04:41 2014. What was the point of building a new station at 148th Street, a mere 3 block extension, or wasn't it ? |
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Re: 7 Line Extension to Open February 24, 2015 |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 1 19:11:31 2014, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension to Open February 24, 2015, posted by Joe V on Wed Oct 1 19:01:37 2014. Because they could. They didn't have to fumigate at 145 anymore once they did. |
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Re: 7 Line Extension to Open February 24, 2015 |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Oct 1 19:25:37 2014, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension to Open February 24, 2015, posted by Joe V on Wed Oct 1 19:01:37 2014. 1. 145th was (is) a half station. Only 5 cars can open.2. 148th is adjacent to major housing project, i.e., source of passengers. 3. It's not just a 3-block extension. It's 4 blocks north (station is actually at 149th) and a long avenue block west. 4. It was a low-cost way of bringing subway service to the neighborhood. |
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Re: 7 Line Extension to Open February 24, 2015 |
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Posted by The Silence on Wed Oct 1 19:32:19 2014, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension to Open February 24, 2015, posted by Joe V on Wed Oct 1 19:01:37 2014. Same problem as South Ferry, terminal station that would not fit a full length train. The only other option was to close 145th Street and reroute 3 service, at which point they might as well have gotten rid of Lenox yard, but this addition did provide a better connection than having to trudge up to St. Nicholas for the IND. |
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Re: 7 Line Extension to Open February 24, 2015 |
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Posted by Edwards! on Wed Oct 1 20:36:17 2014, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension to Open February 24, 2015, posted by terRAPIN sTaTiOn on Wed Oct 1 13:43:05 2014. Of course...you Do know what your talking about because uouy are the Top Bitch in charge.So carry on, Great Bitch..tell us how we are so wrong since "we didn't read the article"... As a matter of fact..eat a dick. |
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Re: 7 Line Extension to Open February 24, 2015 |
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Posted by Edwards! on Wed Oct 1 20:36:44 2014, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension to Open February 24, 2015, posted by The Silence on Wed Oct 1 14:20:51 2014. Eat a dick. |
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Re: 7 Line Extension to Open February 24, 2015 |
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Posted by TerrApin StatiON on Wed Oct 1 21:20:04 2014, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension to Open February 24, 2015, posted by Edwards! on Wed Oct 1 20:36:17 2014. Who is "we" you motherless son of a dick eating cunt munching carpetbagging teabagger whore? I'm completely correct and several people have posted in support of my position. No one has posted in support of your dumb ass. Ha! I must have really struck a nerve :) |
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Re: 7 Line Extension to Open February 24, 2015 |
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Posted by The Silence on Wed Oct 1 23:53:20 2014, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension to Open February 24, 2015, posted by Edwards! on Wed Oct 1 20:36:44 2014. yea, that is SSOOO constructive...The delay is caused by the manufacturers screwing up the elevator and the vent fans. How can the contractor be held responsible for that... |
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Re: 7 Line Extension to Open February 24, 2015 |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 2 00:06:20 2014, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension to Open February 24, 2015, posted by The Silence on Wed Oct 1 23:53:20 2014. While you may disagree with his attitude about the particular poster's response to him and his response following it, there is always a general contractor who is responsible for the performance of ALL of the subcontractors for a project. The general could well be the Empty-yay, but I'll bet the "contractor" in question is outside.General contractor, being responsible for the performance of all of the various subcontractors, is also responsible for any "special work" ordered by subcontractors from manufacturers to ensure that all of the necessary manufacturing specs are adhered to, and delivered on time. That's why contracts such as this are so expensive on a basis of all of the management required in order to bring everything together on time, and on budget. If the chosen manufacturers weren't competent, the general contractor should have either chosen another manufacturer, or modified the project and requested and received "change orders" on a basis, and can then litigate with the original manufacturers for failure to perform or failure to adhere to the specifications in the first place. I've never done construction projects, but I sure have built a lot of television and other facilities, being responsible for everything from the flooring to the curtains to the equipment to the HVAC all coming together and working on time for that facility to go on air as scheduled - complete, and fully functional. General contractor eats it, period. |
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Re: 7 Line Extension to Open February 24, 2015 |
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Posted by tRaIn dUdE on Thu Oct 2 00:23:18 2014, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension to Open February 24, 2015, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Oct 1 18:52:06 2014. Exactly! The MTA does not particularly like to buy "Off the Shelf", be it rail cars, locomotives or infrastructure equipment. When the builder follows the MTAs wishes and it doesn't work as designed, the MTA design is usually the fault. |
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Re: 7 Line Extension to Open February 24, 2015 |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Thu Oct 2 00:58:34 2014, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension to Open February 24, 2015, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 2 00:06:20 2014. and finds ways to get it back from the subs as is often justified. |
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Re: 7 Line Extension to Open February 24, 2015 |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 2 01:30:55 2014, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension to Open February 24, 2015, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Thu Oct 2 00:58:34 2014. Yep ... or quickly learns to find better vendors. Nobody in their right mind with any qualifications at all says, "let's go with FPE on this." (grin) |
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Re: 7 Line Extension to Open February 24, 2015 |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Thu Oct 2 02:32:08 2014, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension to Open February 24, 2015, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 2 01:30:55 2014. Frankly Pathetic Elevators ??? |
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Re: 7 Line Extension to Open February 24, 2015 |
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Posted by SubwaySurf on Thu Oct 2 02:41:56 2014, in response to 7 Line Extension to Open February 24, 2015, posted by Andy on Wed Oct 1 09:25:53 2014. Learn how to hyperlink |
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Re: 7 Line Extension to Open February 24, 2015 |
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Posted by SubwaySurf on Thu Oct 2 02:46:11 2014, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension to Open February 24, 2015, posted by Edwards! on Wed Oct 1 20:36:44 2014. LOL |
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Re: Russianoff does standup -Re: 7 Line Extension to Open February 24, 2015 |
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Posted by Express Rider on Thu Oct 2 03:44:35 2014, in response to Russianoff does standup -Re: 7 Line Extension to Open February 24, 2015, posted by italianstallion on Wed Oct 1 15:13:29 2014. re: “Many subway riders are already inclined . . . to expect delays on big MTA projects.” "It's been said before on this board - four years and nothing but shovels, dynamite, and many laborers built a nine mile subway almost the length of Manhattan.... Seven years for the first large and complex segment of the IND..... |
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Re: 7 Line Extension to Open February 24, 2015 |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Oct 2 13:55:14 2014, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension to Open February 24, 2015, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 1 19:11:31 2014. They never had to fumigate at 145 St anyhow unless the trains were layups that came in straight iron on tk 4. Trains that didn't lay up crossed over to the S/B tk 1 and departed from there like a stub terminal. The original purpose of 148 St station was as a replacement for 145 St which was supposed to be closed. That's why there is a Xover at the N/E of the station within station limits and the platforms were never extended. Local political pressure was what kept the station open. |
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Re: 7 Line Extension to Open February 24, 2015 |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Oct 2 13:58:08 2014, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension to Open February 24, 2015, posted by The Silence on Wed Oct 1 19:32:19 2014. I can't recall where I read it, butI seem to recall reading that 145 St station was built as an afterthought. Originally, the tracks to 148 St Yd were to be strictly yard leads but somewhere along the way it was decided to construct a station at 145 St possibly to take advantage of passengers who might transfer from Bronx streetcars. |
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Re: 7 Line Extension to Open February 24, 2015 |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 2 14:02:33 2014, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension to Open February 24, 2015, posted by randyo on Thu Oct 2 13:58:08 2014. There's also the issue of having a place to terminate Lenox locals without getting in the way of West Farms Expresses.In the 2004 Centennial map, there was an IRT map, probably printed before opening in anticipation of the opening in 1904, showing a station at 143rd Street, and no Lenox Spur. |
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Re: 7 Line Extension to Open February 24, 2015 |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 2 14:04:37 2014, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension to Open February 24, 2015, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 2 14:02:33 2014. 142nd Street. |
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Re: 7 Line Extension to Open February 24, 2015 |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Oct 2 14:12:02 2014, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension to Open February 24, 2015, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 2 14:02:33 2014. I wonder where that map came from. I have an original of the book on the subway published by the IRT prior to its opening and I'll have to check that map. AFAIK, by the time the book was published, the location of the IRT main shop and yard at 148 St had already been determined. |
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Re: 7 Line Extension to Open February 24, 2015 |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 2 18:10:47 2014, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension to Open February 24, 2015, posted by randyo on Thu Oct 2 13:55:14 2014. Ah! Didn't know that. Thanks! |
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Re: 7 Line Extension to Open February 24, 2015 |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Sun Oct 5 09:14:04 2014, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension to Open February 24, 2015, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 2 14:02:33 2014. Would there have been such a thing as Lenox locals if the station at 145th St. had not been built? Or would all in-service trains have continued to the Bronx? |
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Re: 7 Line Extension to Open February 24, 2015 |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Oct 5 20:33:18 2014, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension to Open February 24, 2015, posted by Dyre Dan on Sun Oct 5 09:14:04 2014. Although it's only my opinion, I would suspect that had 145 St not been built, all the Lenox service would have been from the Bronx with the remote possibility of a very small number of rush hour put ins and layups from/to 148 St yard and going in and out of service at 135 St. |
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