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Posted by Ray Jules on Sat Sep 13 03:29:10 2014, in response to Montague Tunnel Notes, posted by Stef on Sat Sep 13 02:49:53 2014. Making runs through the tube? |
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Posted by Stef on Sat Sep 13 03:42:15 2014, in response to Re: Montague Tunnel Notes, posted by Ray Jules on Sat Sep 13 03:29:10 2014. Yes.....That would appear to be the case. Involving officials, MTA Big Bosses, and others.-Stef |
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Posted by Ray Jules on Sat Sep 13 04:14:34 2014, in response to Re: Montague Tunnel Notes, posted by Stef on Sat Sep 13 03:42:15 2014. Will the public be able to ride too? |
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Posted by Ray Jules on Sat Sep 13 04:30:48 2014, in response to Re: Montague Tunnel Notes, posted by Ray Jules on Sat Sep 13 04:14:34 2014. Also would you happen to know what route will the arnines be taking down to Whitehall? |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Sep 13 10:17:31 2014, in response to Montague Tunnel Notes, posted by Stef on Sat Sep 13 02:49:53 2014. Too bad the Triplexes or museum BMT standards couldn't be used... |
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Posted by jace on Sat Sep 13 10:45:56 2014, in response to Montague Tunnel Notes, posted by Stef on Sat Sep 13 02:49:53 2014. ...and a partridge on a pump train..R110A's will be there too.. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Sat Sep 13 12:34:55 2014, in response to Re: Montague Tunnel Notes, posted by Ray Jules on Sat Sep 13 04:30:48 2014. Would be nice if the nostalgia train was signed up as an old "EE", running from Forest Hills to Whitehall! |
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Posted by Stef on Sat Sep 13 12:42:53 2014, in response to Re: Montague Tunnel Notes, posted by Ray Jules on Sat Sep 13 04:14:34 2014. As far as I can tell (unless mistaken), this SHOULD NOT be open to the riding public.-Stef |
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Posted by Ray Jules on Sat Sep 13 12:50:06 2014, in response to Re: Montague Tunnel Notes, posted by jace on Sat Sep 13 10:45:56 2014. what route will all these trains be taking to get down to Whitehall? |
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Posted by Stef on Sat Sep 13 12:55:14 2014, in response to Re: Montague Tunnel Notes, posted by Ray Jules on Sat Sep 13 04:30:48 2014. Couldn't tell you about the routing, but since there is no service over the bridge this weekend on the D:I would suggest 207th to 34th and 6th; 34th to Queens Plaza; Queens Plaza to Whitehall St. Train is supposed to be on the S/B Track at Whitehall St. -Stef |
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Posted by Hart Bus on Sat Sep 13 12:56:54 2014, in response to Re: Montague Tunnel Notes, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Sep 13 10:17:31 2014. What are the operating capabilities of those two trains? Are they able to make it up the inclines at both ends of the tunnel. Would be a big embarrassment if they couldn't and got stuck in the tunnels. Also should they break down in the tunnel, that would mess up the operating schedules.I agree with your sentiment that BMT not IND equipment should be used, there maybe other considerations in play here. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Sep 13 13:03:56 2014, in response to Montague Tunnel Notes, posted by Stef on Sat Sep 13 02:49:53 2014. All this for the least used East River tunnel, whose service has been progressively cut over the last generation. |
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Posted by Ray Jules on Sat Sep 13 13:39:50 2014, in response to Re: Montague Tunnel Notes, posted by Stef on Sat Sep 13 12:55:14 2014. Alright, thanks so much! I'll be shopping in the area tomorrow so I may make an effort to see it pass. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Sep 13 14:04:00 2014, in response to Re: Montague Tunnel Notes, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Sep 13 13:03:56 2014. But very important anyway. Suppose you had a disastrous event on the Manhattan Bridge that wiped out service there for days or weeks? |
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Posted by randyo on Sat Sep 13 14:33:05 2014, in response to Re: Montague Tunnel Notes, posted by Hart Bus on Sat Sep 13 12:56:54 2014. The R-9s should be an acceptable alternative since they were for a time used on the pre Chrystie 4 Av Lcl signed up with a #2. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Sep 13 18:05:01 2014, in response to Re: Montague Tunnel Notes, posted by Elkeeper on Sat Sep 13 12:34:55 2014. Actually, I'd prefer the Nostalgia SMEE train, marked "RR".Montague Tunnel was not the Arnines native turf. R11, R16 and R38 would be right at home there. One of the R38's first assignments was to the RR. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Sep 13 20:09:18 2014, in response to Re: Montague Tunnel Notes, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Sep 13 13:03:56 2014. Of all all East River subway crossings, be it a tunnel or a bridge, which is least used, Montague or Willie-B ? |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Sep 13 20:16:33 2014, in response to Re: Montague Tunnel Notes, posted by Joe V on Sat Sep 13 20:09:18 2014. Montague has about 10 R trains in the peak hour, maybe 12.WB has 10 Ms, and at least 6 Js and 6 Zs. Back when the M went through the Montague there were maybe only 6 of them, so then it might have been much closer. |
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Posted by Abba on Sat Sep 13 20:52:30 2014, in response to Re: Montague Tunnel Notes, posted by AlM on Sat Sep 13 20:16:33 2014. I wouldn't get too excited about it opening,The MTA has NOT confirmed it yet. |
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Posted by Abba on Sat Sep 13 20:54:01 2014, in response to Re: Montague Tunnel Notes, posted by Abba on Sat Sep 13 20:52:30 2014. And the advisory is back on the service advisories page past Monday. |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Sat Sep 13 21:01:41 2014, in response to Re: Montague Tunnel Notes, posted by Abba on Sat Sep 13 20:54:01 2014. Even TripPlanner is still indicated Montague St Tunnel is closed.Oh well. |
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Posted by Abba on Sat Sep 13 21:04:55 2014, in response to Re: Montague Tunnel Notes, posted by Gold_12th on Sat Sep 13 21:01:41 2014. I checked tripplanner for the 17th and it says Montague open. |
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Posted by Abba on Sat Sep 13 21:06:05 2014, in response to Re: Montague Tunnel Notes, posted by Abba on Sat Sep 13 21:04:55 2014. At least it indicates that you can take R from DeKalb to Whitehall.I say 50/50 it opens Monday. |
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Posted by Abba on Sat Sep 13 21:09:13 2014, in response to Re: Montague Tunnel Notes, posted by Abba on Sat Sep 13 21:06:05 2014. Actually you are right.Tripplanner no longer says Montague reopens this week.i now lower the chances to 25 percent. |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Sat Sep 13 21:16:06 2014, in response to Re: Montague Tunnel Notes, posted by Abba on Sat Sep 13 21:09:13 2014. I wouldn't bet on TripPlanner. Most of the station signs on the R line (that I saw) have already update. Even the subway map in the stations already updated. |
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Posted by Abba on Sat Sep 13 21:17:15 2014, in response to Re: Montague Tunnel Notes, posted by Gold_12th on Sat Sep 13 21:16:06 2014. But then why was it changed back? |
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Posted by Abba on Sat Sep 13 21:19:28 2014, in response to Re: Montague Tunnel Notes, posted by Abba on Sat Sep 13 21:17:15 2014. The Intersting thing is I also tried 10/25/14 and it says Montague closed that day too. |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Sat Sep 13 21:30:46 2014, in response to Re: Montague Tunnel Notes, posted by Abba on Sat Sep 13 21:19:28 2014. This morning, their service advisory for the R was mess up. They have since corrected.I don't get why MTA couldn't announce it already. My guess is because of this corrupted politician who is preparing to take credit.... 
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Sat Sep 13 22:52:43 2014, in response to Re: Montague Tunnel Notes, posted by Joe V on Sat Sep 13 18:05:01 2014. Also, they could borrow an R-42 set from the J, as IIRC, the RR used R-42s 4808-485? back in the day. Most of those (up to 4839) are still in service out of ENY.Of course, the roll signs no longer have a green RR bullet. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Sep 13 23:19:38 2014, in response to Re: Montague Tunnel Notes, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Sat Sep 13 22:52:43 2014. Pretty sure for the record it was 4851. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Sep 13 23:46:06 2014, in response to Re: Montague Tunnel Notes, posted by Joe V on Sat Sep 13 18:05:01 2014. Yeah, run the Borgaschmord train and throw in R-32s 3352-53. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Sep 13 23:48:21 2014, in response to Re: Montague Tunnel Notes, posted by Hart Bus on Sat Sep 13 12:56:54 2014. The museum BMT standards are slowly undergoing restoration. IINM Triplexes 6019 and 6112 are in sad shape. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Sep 13 23:49:26 2014, in response to Re: Montague Tunnel Notes, posted by AlM on Sat Sep 13 14:04:00 2014. You'd be in very deep do-do if it weren't for the Montague St. tunnel. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Sun Sep 14 00:09:22 2014, in response to Montague Tunnel Notes, posted by Stef on Sat Sep 13 02:49:53 2014. The museum train for tomorrow has been cancelled. Be governed accordingly. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Sep 14 00:19:01 2014, in response to Re: Montague Tunnel Notes, posted by G1Ravage on Sun Sep 14 00:09:22 2014. I suppose Prince Andrew has a fear of the dark whilst crossing interlockings and it was either a choice of being sedated or having the train sedated instead. :) |
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Posted by Stef on Sun Sep 14 03:16:15 2014, in response to Re: Montague Tunnel Notes, posted by G1Ravage on Sun Sep 14 00:09:22 2014. There was a reason for a practice run today (Saturday), and that was to make sure the R1/9's operated without incident. Me thinks the R1/9's didn't pass the test...-Stef |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Sep 14 03:20:36 2014, in response to Re: Montague Tunnel Notes, posted by Joe V on Sat Sep 13 18:05:01 2014. AsI mentioned in another post, there were a couple of occasions when the R-9s were the regular equipment on the 4 Av Lcl for extended periods of time. |
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Posted by Ray Jules on Sun Sep 14 04:00:00 2014, in response to Re: Montague Tunnel Notes, posted by Stef on Sun Sep 14 03:16:15 2014. That sucks.. |
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Posted by chud1 on Sun Sep 14 04:31:08 2014, in response to Re: Montague Tunnel Notes, posted by Gold_12th on Sat Sep 13 21:30:46 2014. crucify that man in da picture.chud1. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Sep 14 08:53:15 2014, in response to Re: Montague Tunnel Notes, posted by Stef on Sun Sep 14 03:16:15 2014. Uh-oh... |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Sep 14 09:53:30 2014, in response to Re: Montague Tunnel Notes, posted by AlM on Sat Sep 13 20:16:33 2014. In terms of number of trains yes, albeitwith 20% shorter trains on the Eastern Division, but what about numbers of people conveyed ?The 5/10 minute intervals of J/Z trains only lasts an hour. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Sep 14 10:07:58 2014, in response to Re: Montague Tunnel Notes, posted by randyo on Sun Sep 14 03:20:36 2014. Yes, but nobody remembers that. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Sep 14 10:09:59 2014, in response to Re: Montague Tunnel Notes, posted by Abba on Sat Sep 13 21:09:13 2014. Did the scuttled Arnine discover a defect ? |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Sep 14 10:33:50 2014, in response to Re: Montague Tunnel Notes, posted by Joe V on Sun Sep 14 09:53:30 2014. With that analogy, that also applies to the IRT. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Sep 14 10:36:01 2014, in response to Re: Montague Tunnel Notes, posted by Joe V on Sun Sep 14 10:09:59 2014. Sounds like it to me. But I'm sure it's not for publication.My educated guess: maybe an external guard light got knocked off. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Sep 14 16:48:24 2014, in response to Re: Montague Tunnel Notes, posted by Joe V on Sun Sep 14 10:07:58 2014. That doesn't mean it didn't happen! |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Sep 15 14:38:43 2014, in response to Montague Tunnel Notes, posted by Stef on Sat Sep 13 02:49:53 2014. All this for the least used East River tunnel, whose service has been progressively cut over the last generation. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Sep 15 14:42:02 2014, in response to Re: Montague Tunnel Notes, posted by Joe V on Sun Sep 14 09:53:30 2014. Last time these stats were posted, the Willy B had 20,000 more riders daily. |
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Posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Mon Sep 15 17:14:43 2014, in response to Montague Tunnel Notes, posted by Stef on Sat Sep 13 02:49:53 2014. Are they going to change the signaling to speed up the ride? I remember that it was timers from Whitehall to the merge with the Nassau St line. then full speed to Brooklyn (no timers).From Brooklyn to Manhattan it was all timers until the switch branching off to the Nassau St line, then full speed for the short distance from the switch to Whitehall. |
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