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Re: LIRR restoring weekend service on West Hempstead line & boost service on the Montauk branch |
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Posted by seabeachexpress on Fri Jul 25 19:20:42 2014, in response to LIRR restoring weekend service on West Hempstead line & boost service on the Montauk branch, posted by Gold_12th on Fri Jul 25 18:57:15 2014. That is good news. Too far to drive from West Hemp to Merrilon ave or New HP if you live in West Hempstead. |
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Re: LIRR restoring weekend service on West Hempstead line & boost service on the Montauk branch |
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Posted by Joe V on Fri Jul 25 19:53:41 2014, in response to Re: LIRR restoring weekend service on West Hempstead line & boost service on the Montauk branch, posted by seabeachexpress on Fri Jul 25 19:20:42 2014. Also,Lynbrook has expensive private parking under the trestle, RVC is Zone 7 NICE does not honor LIRR tickets |
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Re: LIRR restoring weekend service on West Hempstead line & boost service on the Montauk branch |
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Posted by aaron on Fri Jul 25 21:02:45 2014, in response to Re: LIRR restoring weekend service on West Hempstead line & boost service on the Montauk branch, posted by seabeachexpress on Fri Jul 25 19:20:42 2014. Drive to Valley Stream. You can park at that metered lot at the west end of the station for free on the weekends... |
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Re: LIRR restoring weekend service on West Hempstead line & boost service on the Montauk branch |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jul 25 21:47:52 2014, in response to Re: LIRR restoring weekend service on West Hempstead line & boost service on the Montauk branch, posted by seabeachexpress on Fri Jul 25 19:20:42 2014. True, but the shitty 2 hour headways and the shuttle service to Valley Stream will always make the line less attractive than nearby alternatives. Here's a wacky idea: run hourly weekend service to Atlantic Terminal, and run the Hempstead or Far Rock lines into NYP. |
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Re: LIRR restoring weekend service on West Hempstead line & boost service on the Montauk branch |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Jul 26 07:38:10 2014, in response to Re: LIRR restoring weekend service on West Hempstead line & boost service on the Montauk branch, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jul 25 21:47:52 2014. After ESA, that is the plan.There is NO excuse why they can't run the shuttle every 90 minutes alternately connecting with FR and LB trains. That would not be bad service. They would save a little electricity and wear if they ran 4 cars, leave 2 behind in WH. But they are now paranoid of gapping. They ran mostly 4 car M-1's until the M-3's came, and nothing ever happened. I commuted on that line for 13 years back then. |
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Re: LIRR restoring weekend service on West Hempstead line & boost service on the Montauk branch |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Jul 26 07:40:07 2014, in response to LIRR restoring weekend service on West Hempstead line & boost service on the Montauk branch, posted by Gold_12th on Fri Jul 25 18:57:15 2014. A lot of J and M neighborhoods have regentrified, so could probably use more service to lower Manhattan without transfers.Think about the M rider head to lower Manhattan. They have to transfer at both Essex and Chambers. |
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Re: LIRR restoring weekend service on West Hempstead line & boost service on the Montauk branch |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 26 09:11:07 2014, in response to Re: LIRR restoring weekend service on West Hempstead line & boost service on the Montauk branch, posted by Joe V on Sat Jul 26 07:38:10 2014. They could do that now without any major problem. |
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Re: LIRR restoring weekend service on West Hempstead line & boost service on the Montauk branch |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Sun Jul 27 01:30:10 2014, in response to Re: LIRR restoring weekend service on West Hempstead line & boost service on the Montauk branch, posted by Joe V on Sat Jul 26 07:38:10 2014. You mean that's the plan, but to GCT/NYP. FBA is going to be scoot-ified (unfortunately) |
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Re: LIRR restoring weekend service on West Hempstead line & boost service on the Montauk branch |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Jul 27 10:50:16 2014, in response to Re: LIRR restoring weekend service on West Hempstead line & boost service on the Montauk branch, posted by NIMBYkiller on Sun Jul 27 01:30:10 2014. They wil rip out the crossovers west of Jamaica Station so that it will be physically impossible to get to and from Brooklyn from any track lower then Track 6. |
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Re: LIRR restoring weekend service on West Hempstead line & boost service on the Montauk branch |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jul 27 12:53:36 2014, in response to Re: LIRR restoring weekend service on West Hempstead line & boost service on the Montauk branch, posted by NIMBYkiller on Sun Jul 27 01:30:10 2014. ESA will never open. Just my suspicion. The cost is already over what the current estimate for Amtrak Gateway is, and it was supposed to have been open in 2009 last year (current estimate is "between 2019 and 2023" for crying out loud). |
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Re: LIRR restoring weekend service on West Hempstead line & boost service on the Montauk branch |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jul 27 12:54:10 2014, in response to Re: LIRR restoring weekend service on West Hempstead line & boost service on the Montauk branch, posted by Joe V on Sat Jul 26 07:40:07 2014. When did the gentry live there to begin with? |
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Re: LIRR restoring weekend service on West Hempstead line & boost service on the Montauk branch |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sun Jul 27 17:15:31 2014, in response to Re: LIRR restoring weekend service on West Hempstead line & boost service on the Montauk branch, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jul 27 12:53:36 2014. That's juts silly. With all the money spent and the work in progress, what are they gonna do, fill it in with sand? |
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Re: LIRR restoring weekend service on West Hempstead line & boost service on the Montauk branch |
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Posted by 3-9 on Mon Jul 28 00:46:54 2014, in response to Re: LIRR restoring weekend service on West Hempstead line & boost service on the Montauk branch, posted by Joe V on Sun Jul 27 10:50:16 2014. Why bother to do that? Why not leave the crossovers in case they want/need to run thru service? |
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Re: LIRR restoring weekend service on West Hempstead line & boost service on the Montauk branch |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Mon Jul 28 08:04:30 2014, in response to Re: LIRR restoring weekend service on West Hempstead line & boost service on the Montauk branch, posted by 3-9 on Mon Jul 28 00:46:54 2014. Not to mention it is useful to have in case a train derails over a switch that knocks tracks a number of the limited tracks connected to Flatbush Avenue out of service. I remember one derailment when trains from Brooklyn were ARRIVING on Track 3 and the train from Penn Station was on Track 2 (or may have been Track 4) |
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Re: LIRR restoring weekend service on West Hempstead line & boost service on the Montauk branch |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Mon Jul 28 08:21:26 2014, in response to Re: LIRR restoring weekend service on West Hempstead line & boost service on the Montauk branch, posted by Joe V on Sun Jul 27 10:50:16 2014. I think that's a ridiculous plan. The whole point of ESA is to INCREASE flexibility.This plan could eventually make the FBA branch into another version of the Lower Montauk- orphaned all the way to abandonment. |
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Re: LIRR restoring weekend service on West Hempstead line & boost service on the Montauk branch |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Jul 28 18:44:13 2014, in response to Re: LIRR restoring weekend service on West Hempstead line & boost service on the Montauk branch, posted by 3-9 on Mon Jul 28 00:46:54 2014. a) They don't want to run thru-serviceb) They want to thru-put Manhattan trains as fast as possible without being bothering maintaining unused switch point, to say nothing of Brooklyn train stying things up |
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Re: LIRR restoring weekend service on West Hempstead line & boost service on the Montauk branch |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Jul 28 18:47:31 2014, in response to Re: LIRR restoring weekend service on West Hempstead line & boost service on the Montauk branch, posted by MainR3664 on Mon Jul 28 08:21:26 2014. "The whole point of ESA is to INCREASE flexibility. "No, the point is to increase service to Manhattan without transfers. Where did you read "flexibility" in their proposals ? " his plan could eventually make the FBA branch into another version of the Lower Montauk- orphaned all the way to abandonment. " Lower Montauk had 2 trains a day, were not shuttles, but were Oyster Bay trains. No analogy at all Atlantic service will run every 10 - 15 minutes like rapid transit |
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Re: LIRR restoring weekend service on West Hempstead line & boost service on the Montauk branch |
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Posted by Concourse Express on Mon Jul 28 19:22:31 2014, in response to LIRR restoring weekend service on West Hempstead line & boost service on the Montauk branch, posted by Gold_12th on Fri Jul 25 18:57:15 2014. Nice; hopefully this means more frequent weekend service at Saint Albans...Visit my blog! |
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Re: LIRR restoring weekend service on West Hempstead line & boost service on the Montauk branch |
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Posted by 3-9 on Tue Jul 29 00:15:03 2014, in response to Re: LIRR restoring weekend service on West Hempstead line & boost service on the Montauk branch, posted by Joe V on Mon Jul 28 18:44:13 2014. Are Brooklyn trains tying things up now? I'm just saying it's another terminal for extra service, and it's a useful terminal for reroutes. If something happens on the main line, they're going to dump everybody on Jamaica for the shuttle? |
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Re: LIRR restoring weekend service on West Hempstead line & boost service on the Montauk branch |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Tue Jul 29 01:31:59 2014, in response to Re: LIRR restoring weekend service on West Hempstead line & boost service on the Montauk branch, posted by Joe V on Mon Jul 28 18:44:13 2014. I still think it's incredibly short-sighted to be doing this, even without Brooklyn becoming the destination that it is. |
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Re: LIRR restoring weekend service on West Hempstead line & boost service on the Montauk branch |
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Posted by 3-9 on Tue Jul 29 02:39:23 2014, in response to Re: LIRR restoring weekend service on West Hempstead line & boost service on the Montauk branch, posted by NIMBYkiller on Tue Jul 29 01:31:59 2014. These are the same people who ordered just enough diesel locomotives and cars for then-existing service, then got caught flatfooted when the ridership increased. |
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Re: LIRR restoring weekend service on West Hempstead line & boost service on the Montauk branch |
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Posted by R30A on Tue Jul 29 13:25:12 2014, in response to Re: LIRR restoring weekend service on West Hempstead line & boost service on the Montauk branch, posted by Joe V on Sun Jul 27 10:50:16 2014. I know that they have said so, however the track diagrams they have published do not show such |
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Re: LIRR restoring weekend service on West Hempstead line & boost service on the Montauk branch |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue Jul 29 18:38:00 2014, in response to Re: LIRR restoring weekend service on West Hempstead line & boost service on the Montauk branch, posted by 3-9 on Tue Jul 29 00:15:03 2014. A Brooklyn bound train off the main line, especially the Hempstead branch, is a pain in the ass for the dispatchers. It has to cross paths, either west of the Jamaica platforms, or east of it, to proceed, and of course everything running thru track 4 & 5 headed to Manhattan. Somebody or another gets delayed 2 minutes. |
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Re: LIRR restoring weekend service on West Hempstead line & boost service on the Montauk branch |
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Posted by 3-9 on Tue Jul 29 20:36:12 2014, in response to Re: LIRR restoring weekend service on West Hempstead line & boost service on the Montauk branch, posted by Joe V on Tue Jul 29 18:38:00 2014. Do Rockaway, Long Beach, and West Hempstead trains cause the same headaches? Just using ESA to remove some of the more difficult trains ought to be enough. |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue Jul 29 20:39:11 2014, in response to Re: LIRR restoring weekend service on West Hempstead line & boost service on the Montauk branch, posted by 3-9 on Tue Jul 29 20:36:12 2014. Far Rockaway and Long Beach come up out of the hole from the Atlantic. Less impact, since they are farther south. West Hempstead takes the Montauk is also a pain, but there are only 3 of them going to Brooklyn in the AM rush. |
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Re: LIRR restoring weekend service on West Hempstead line & boost service on the Montauk branch |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jul 30 09:42:36 2014, in response to Re: LIRR restoring weekend service on West Hempstead line & boost service on the Montauk branch, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jul 27 12:53:36 2014. It will, it's just a matter of when (and how much). |
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