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Lack of sign posts, recent (N) Astoria El shutdown

Posted by Gold_12th on Thu Apr 17 15:00:12 2014

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Officials at the Dutch Kills Civic Association (DKCA) are questioning methods used by city transit officials to alert local straphangers of changes in subway service along the elevated N line.

Straphangers, some of whom were patrons at hotels in the Dutch Kills community, were left shaking their heads after they climbed the stairs at subway entrances on 39th Avenue and 36th Avenue on April 6, only to find the turnstiles cordoned-off with yellow tape, civic leader George Stamatiades said.

“The MTA taped a few small signs to the street level entrance on the N line,” Stamatiades said. “Of course, some of the signs fell off, and some straphangers didn’t realize the line was shut down until they got all the way upstairs.”

“Instead of just putting the tape on the street entrance, the MTA put it on the turnstiles. And they had a clerk sitting in the token booth, telling people they had to go back downstairs to wait for a shuttle bus,” Stamatiades said.

Stamatiades said patrons at some local hotels were baffled by the way the city handled the subway suspension.

“The people that spoke English were able to figure out what to do,” he said. “But visitors to New York who were staying at local hotels had no idea what was going on.”

Officials at the Dutch Kills Civic Association said MTA officials could have done a better job posting signs on the 36th Avenue entrance, where they were strewn on the sidewalk by midmorning on April 6. Transit officials could also have reached out to management at the Dutch Kills hotels to let them alert their guests of the subway changes, the civics said.

Local residents argued that the city invited the hotels to build in Dutch Kills in an effort to improve the local economy – and add much-needed cash to city coffers.

“Does anybody think overseas visitors will go away with a positive image of the city after they were put through this?” a local resident said. “And after they wait for the shuttle bus, they find they can’t get on because it’s too crowded.”

A spokesperson for City Council Majority Leader Jimmy Van Bramer said the lawmaker reached out to the MTA to correct the snafu.

MTA officials did not return a call from the Gazette by press time.


http://www.qgazette.com/news/2014-04-16/Features/Straphangers_Stranded.html

One small sign is not enough.

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Re: Lack of sign posts, recent (N) Astoria El shutdown

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Apr 17 18:06:17 2014, in response to Lack of sign posts, recent (N) Astoria El shutdown, posted by Gold_12th on Thu Apr 17 15:00:12 2014.

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What would have been better?

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Re: Lack of sign posts, recent (N) Astoria El shutdown

Posted by Randyo on Thu Apr 17 18:24:06 2014, in response to Re: Lack of sign posts, recent (N) Astoria El shutdown, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Apr 17 18:06:17 2014.

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Yellow tape across the bottom of the staircase.

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Re: Lack of sign posts, recent (N) Astoria El shutdown

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Apr 17 20:13:09 2014, in response to Re: Lack of sign posts, recent (N) Astoria El shutdown, posted by Randyo on Thu Apr 17 18:24:06 2014.

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Tape regularly gets ripped down by the passengers.

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Re: Lack of sign posts, recent (N) Astoria El shutdown

Posted by Michael549 on Thu Apr 17 22:32:58 2014, in response to Re: Lack of sign posts, recent (N) Astoria El shutdown, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Apr 17 20:13:09 2014.

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What would it have cost to place an additional sign or two at each landing on the stairway, as well as tape. A person passing one set of signs or even pulled tape would or should have to notice the second set. Just a thought.

Mike



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Re: Lack of sign posts, recent (N) Astoria El shutdown

Posted by The Silence on Fri Apr 18 02:21:18 2014, in response to Re: Lack of sign posts, recent (N) Astoria El shutdown, posted by Randyo on Thu Apr 17 18:24:06 2014.

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what if a person comes along and wants to use an MVM..?

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Re: Lack of sign posts, recent (N) Astoria El shutdown

Posted by Jsun21 on Fri Apr 18 02:45:13 2014, in response to Re: Lack of sign posts, recent (N) Astoria El shutdown, posted by The Silence on Fri Apr 18 02:21:18 2014.

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Yellow tape on the turnstiles.

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Re: Lack of sign posts, recent (N) Astoria El shutdown

Posted by MainR3664 on Fri Apr 18 07:03:55 2014, in response to Re: Lack of sign posts, recent (N) Astoria El shutdown, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Apr 17 18:06:17 2014.

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A large sign saying "Station Closed- NO SERVICE". The sign they used could even lead someone to think it was only the N that wasn't running. Us NYers know there's no Q service there on the weekend, but out of towners are likely to be less familiar with subway vernacular.

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Re: Lack of sign posts, recent (N) Astoria El shutdown

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Apr 18 08:33:37 2014, in response to Lack of sign posts, recent (N) Astoria El shutdown, posted by Gold_12th on Thu Apr 17 15:00:12 2014.

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The reason why the staircases weren't taped off is because people still probably needed to get access to the MVM's.

Who the fucks vacations in NYC and stays in Astoria?

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Re: Lack of sign posts, recent (N) Astoria El shutdown

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Apr 18 10:04:33 2014, in response to Re: Lack of sign posts, recent (N) Astoria El shutdown, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Apr 18 08:33:37 2014.

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The magnet of a hotel in that location would be lower rates and easy access to Manhattan.

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Re: Lack of sign posts, recent (N) Astoria El shutdown

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Apr 18 10:07:18 2014, in response to Re: Lack of sign posts, recent (N) Astoria El shutdown, posted by MainR3664 on Fri Apr 18 07:03:55 2014.

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There was a sign there. Do you feel it wasn't big enough?

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Re: Lack of sign posts, recent (N) Astoria El shutdown

Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Fri Apr 18 14:29:29 2014, in response to Re: Lack of sign posts, recent (N) Astoria El shutdown, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Apr 18 08:33:37 2014.

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Who the fucks vacations in NYC and stays in Astoria?

People looking for an alternative to expensive Manhattan hotels that's also easy to get to with a cab (or van shuttle) ride from the airport? Why do you think AirBNB is doing so well?

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Re: Lack of sign posts, recent (N) Astoria El shutdown

Posted by Ray Jules on Fri Apr 18 14:31:32 2014, in response to Re: Lack of sign posts, recent (N) Astoria El shutdown, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Apr 18 08:33:37 2014.

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A lot of people actually. Younger tourists want to save money and have no problem with taking public transport for a quick ride into manhattan.

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Re: Lack of sign posts, recent (N) Astoria El shutdown

Posted by Randyo on Fri Apr 18 15:00:00 2014, in response to Re: Lack of sign posts, recent (N) Astoria El shutdown, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Fri Apr 18 14:29:29 2014.

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One year when I was in Boston I stayed at a hotel in Milton at the end of the Riverside Line overlooking the rail yard. It was cheaper than downtown Boston and extremely convenient to public transport to downtown. On previous visits, IO would often stay at a motel in the Brighton section which was right off the Commonwealth Av Line and a short walk to the Brookline Village station of the Riverside Line both of which provided easy access to downtown and a lot cheaper rate than a hotel in downtown Boston.

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Re: Lack of sign posts, recent (N) Astoria El shutdown

Posted by italianstallion on Fri Apr 18 15:31:18 2014, in response to Re: Lack of sign posts, recent (N) Astoria El shutdown, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Apr 18 08:33:37 2014.

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Don't show your ignorance so blatantly.

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Re: Lack of sign posts, recent (N) Astoria El shutdown

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Apr 18 17:03:35 2014, in response to Re: Lack of sign posts, recent (N) Astoria El shutdown, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Apr 18 10:04:33 2014.

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Everybody who responded to this:




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Re: Lack of sign posts, recent (N) Astoria El shutdown

Posted by italianstallion on Fri Apr 18 18:08:05 2014, in response to Re: Lack of sign posts, recent (N) Astoria El shutdown, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Apr 18 17:03:35 2014.

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Since 5 people thought you were serious, I guess the joke's on you.

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