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PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As)

Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Fri Nov 1 16:45:42 2013

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Found these M-3As, #s 8007/6, on Track 102, sporting more of the "Get Outta Town"/"I Love NY" ads, and I will admit, while I still describe this as corporate vandalism, I actually think the M-3As look rather sharp, having a chance to get a good look at the ad wraps!! So I had to get a few cell snaps while on my break.

M-3As 8007/6, GCT Lower Level, Track 102......
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Re: PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As)

Posted by chud1 on Fri Nov 1 17:44:47 2013, in response to PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As), posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Fri Nov 1 16:45:42 2013.

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5 drooling stars out of 5 drooling stars on these picturess of da M-3As.
chud1.
:)....

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Re: PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As)

Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sat Nov 2 14:48:04 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As), posted by chud1 on Fri Nov 1 17:44:47 2013.

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Thank you, sir!!! :-)

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Re: PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As)

Posted by chud1 on Sat Nov 2 17:49:21 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As), posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sat Nov 2 14:48:04 2013.

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ur welcome.
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:)....

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Re: PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As)

Posted by Tony Clifton on Sat Nov 2 23:49:55 2013, in response to PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As), posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Fri Nov 1 16:45:42 2013.

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Are you listening??? I already told you that it's not vandalism and it's not really corporate. It's government. Several others told you this as well.

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Re: PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As)

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Nov 3 01:16:08 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As), posted by Tony Clifton on Sat Nov 2 23:49:55 2013.

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Ah, so you don't think that there's a merging of "corporate" and "government" in the USA? Heh heh.

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Re: PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As)

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Nov 5 06:34:50 2013, in response to PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As), posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Fri Nov 1 16:45:42 2013.

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How can a government slogan on a government owned train be vandalism? Not to mention there's no "corporation" involved. Andeeven if there was....it would be paid for so not vandalism either.

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Re: PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As)

Posted by the Silence on Tue Nov 5 11:36:02 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As), posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Nov 5 06:34:50 2013.

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And you technicly can't vandalise your own property.

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Re: PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As)

Posted by Tony Clifton on Tue Nov 5 11:54:16 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As), posted by the Silence on Tue Nov 5 11:36:02 2013.

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You certainly can. But this is not that.

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Re: PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As)

Posted by lirr42 on Tue Nov 5 17:15:17 2013, in response to PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As), posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Fri Nov 1 16:45:42 2013.

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The MTA has also "corporate vandalized" several LIRR M7 sets.

Here are some photos from the MTA's Flickr page:








I must say, the full exterior wrap does look good on the M7's. I thought the small banner ads under the windows they tried on for size not too long ago looked awful, but I like how the full car wraps look.

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Re: PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As)

Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Tue Nov 5 17:20:05 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As), posted by lirr42 on Tue Nov 5 17:15:17 2013.

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It actually looks better on the M-7s. See, MNR should've done it on either the Bombs or the M-7As. I think they are better suited on new cars more than 30+ year old cars.

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Re: PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As)

Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Tue Nov 5 17:20:35 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As), posted by Tony Clifton on Sat Nov 2 23:49:55 2013.

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When have I ever cared about anything you have to say?????

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Re: PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As)

Posted by chud1 on Tue Nov 5 18:09:36 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As), posted by lirr42 on Tue Nov 5 17:15:17 2013.

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5 drooling stars out of 5 drooling stars on these Wrapped M-3As
chud1.
:)....

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Re: PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As)

Posted by merrick1 on Tue Nov 5 19:14:31 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As), posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Nov 5 06:34:50 2013.

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The MTA is a public benefit corporation.

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Re: PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As)

Posted by Dyre Dan on Tue Nov 5 21:48:03 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As), posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Tue Nov 5 17:20:05 2013.

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The Bombs look older than the M3As, even if they aren't. The wraps probably work better on stainless steel cars than they would on painted cars.


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Re: PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As)

Posted by Tony Clifton on Wed Nov 6 07:46:06 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As), posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Tue Nov 5 17:20:05 2013.

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Again, why?

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Re: PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As)

Posted by Tony Clifton on Wed Nov 6 07:46:46 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As), posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Tue Nov 5 17:20:35 2013.

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Thanks for admitting you are wrong.

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Re: PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As)

Posted by Tony Clifton on Wed Nov 6 07:47:40 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As), posted by merrick1 on Tue Nov 5 19:14:31 2013.

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We know that. You know what we mean.

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Re: PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As)

Posted by MorningsideHeightsM100 on Wed Nov 6 11:50:07 2013, in response to PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As), posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Fri Nov 1 16:45:42 2013.

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When did Metro North remove the older (two pane) windows on the M-3As?

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Re: PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As)

Posted by blue8irt on Wed Nov 6 14:43:43 2013, in response to PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As), posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Fri Nov 1 16:45:42 2013.

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Definitely a way to customize blah looking equipment.

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Re: PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As)

Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Wed Nov 6 18:21:23 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As), posted by blue8irt on Wed Nov 6 14:43:43 2013.

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I admit, they do look sharp. Seeing how they look good on LIRR M-7s, they should put a few on ours here.

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Re: PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As)

Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Wed Nov 6 18:24:44 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As), posted by Tony Clifton on Wed Nov 6 07:46:46 2013.

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Still with the childish games??? You never change man!! I thought in the time you were away, you would have matured a little!! Sad, man, just sad!!

And at what point was anything admitted here???? Still delusional I see!!! SMH.....and by the way, to me I call it vandalism, and much as you are free to be an immature putz, I am free to have my own opinion of them!! 'Nuff said!!

Next topic please!!

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Re: PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As)

Posted by R2Chinatown on Wed Nov 6 18:26:42 2013, in response to PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As), posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Fri Nov 1 16:45:42 2013.

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Those are much sharper looking than the ones on the LIRR diesel coaches. I have no problem with the way they look.

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Re: PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As)

Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Wed Nov 6 18:27:56 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As), posted by R2Chinatown on Wed Nov 6 18:26:42 2013.

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After I got a good look at them, they've grown on me too!! :-)

However, I still consider it corporate (or governmental) vandalism, and that is just my opinion!!

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Re: PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As)

Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Wed Nov 6 18:33:44 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As), posted by MorningsideHeightsM100 on Wed Nov 6 11:50:07 2013.

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Between 2010 and 2012. Their conversion was stopped for a while due to budget issues, but the program was reinstated and all of the M-3As have been converted.

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Re: PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As)

Posted by R2Chinatown on Wed Nov 6 19:24:27 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As), posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Wed Nov 6 18:27:56 2013.

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That is your opinion and I would not try to change it no matter how much I may disagree. But I may add;

Legal Definition
Vandalism
The intentional and malicious destruction of or damage to the property of another.


http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Vandalism

Since the MTA sells the space on railcars that it owns, it is not legally vandalism.


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Re: PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As)

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 6 19:33:49 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As), posted by R2Chinatown on Wed Nov 6 19:24:27 2013.

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Excellent post.

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Re: PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As)

Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Wed Nov 6 19:33:49 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As), posted by R2Chinatown on Wed Nov 6 19:24:27 2013.

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LOL!!! Geez, man, you guys take things way too seriously!!! It is just what I think of it, obviously it is not what it is!! It is just what I call it!!!

Chill out people!!

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Re: PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As)

Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Wed Nov 6 19:35:01 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As), posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 6 19:33:49 2013.

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-1.......again, we all know it is not actually vandalism, it is just what I call it!! It's not that serious people......chill pills badly needed here!!!

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Re: PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As)

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Nov 6 21:07:37 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As), posted by R2Chinatown on Wed Nov 6 19:24:27 2013.

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It looks like shit. The equiptment should look like it did when it left the factory. There should be one area where the public should not be exposed to the barrages of excessive ads. They see them on the way to the station,on the highways, in the station...etc.

Everyonre was bitchin about the griffiti on the equiptment in the 70's now that its fine tuned & looks neat nowadays, & generates more $$$ that makes it ok??

Well, fine! How about makin the added revenue apply to raises to all the workers that have been working for years w/o a new contract or more importantly, a raise??

Graffiti is just like prostitution, pot smoking, gambling..etc. You cant wipe it out, then legalize it. Such is the ad wraps on the equiptment nowadays. Legalized graffiti, & the MTA pimps are cashin in.

And the rank & file just wait.

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Re: PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As)

Posted by Tony Clifton on Thu Nov 7 13:06:05 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As), posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Wed Nov 6 18:24:44 2013.

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What are you talking about? Vandalism isn't an opinion - it either is vandalism or isn't vandalism. And this isn't vandalism. Do you understand now?

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Re: PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As)

Posted by Tony Clifton on Thu Nov 7 13:07:06 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As), posted by R2Chinatown on Wed Nov 6 19:24:27 2013.

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Great post.

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Re: PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As)

Posted by Tony Clifton on Thu Nov 7 13:08:31 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As), posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Wed Nov 6 18:27:56 2013.

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You STILL don't understand the difference, do you? It's not really corporate. And it's not at all vandalism.

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Re: PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As)

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Nov 10 10:32:44 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As), posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Wed Nov 6 18:21:23 2013.

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Does the LIRR do it, or does it get $$$ to have it done?

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Re: PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As)

Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun Nov 10 19:30:34 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As), posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Nov 10 10:32:44 2013.

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In GCT, I noticed there was a 4 car set being done over on site on Track 102 one morning, so the work is done in house. LIRR and MNR have more than enough resources to do the work in house without having to outsource it.

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Re: PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As)

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Nov 10 20:21:32 2013, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More Wrapped M-3As (aka Corporate Vandalized M-3As), posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun Nov 10 19:30:34 2013.

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ON NYCT, the advertising company does the wrapping.

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