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(7) line extension update photos 6/2013 |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Wed Jun 19 14:01:15 2013 Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mtaphotos/sets/72157634217500922/Almost done...      
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Posted by Bob Andersen on Wed Jun 19 14:04:21 2013, in response to (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by Gold_12th on Wed Jun 19 14:01:15 2013. Nice, but I think it was stupid not to put a station at 10th Ave. Did they at least allow for a future one? |
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Posted by JohnL on Wed Jun 19 15:03:09 2013, in response to (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by Gold_12th on Wed Jun 19 14:01:15 2013. When do they put the 3rd rail in? |
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Re: (7) line extension update photos 6/2013 |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Wed Jun 19 15:06:38 2013, in response to Re: (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by JohnL on Wed Jun 19 15:03:09 2013. I was wondering why there aren't any 'ties' long enough for third rail. |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Wed Jun 19 15:07:57 2013, in response to (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by Gold_12th on Wed Jun 19 14:01:15 2013. From the looks of those rails, something's been on them. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jun 19 15:10:52 2013, in response to (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by Gold_12th on Wed Jun 19 14:01:15 2013.  Wow, it looks like I will see the first subway extension in 25 years soon. On a modern scale, this one was done pretty quick. |
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Posted by chud1 on Wed Jun 19 15:13:18 2013, in response to (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by Gold_12th on Wed Jun 19 14:01:15 2013. 5 drooling stars out of 5 drooling stars.i worked betwee 10th and 11th ave on 33rd st. chud1. :).... |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jun 19 15:14:25 2013, in response to Re: (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Wed Jun 19 15:07:57 2013. Work trains, no doubt. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 19 15:41:30 2013, in response to Re: (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by Bob Andersen on Wed Jun 19 14:04:21 2013. They "underestimated". They wanted to beg the federal government for the money to build the Tenth Avenue station. Corruption knows no bounds, does it? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 19 15:42:23 2013, in response to Re: (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by JohnL on Wed Jun 19 15:03:09 2013. Next year, obviously. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 19 16:04:55 2013, in response to Re: (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jun 19 15:10:52 2013. If by "modern" you mean contemporary, I don't disagree. But this does belie any real modernity. |
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Posted by monorail on Wed Jun 19 17:11:17 2013, in response to Re: (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by chud1 on Wed Jun 19 15:13:18 2013. street walker? |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Wed Jun 19 17:21:17 2013, in response to Re: (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by Bob Andersen on Wed Jun 19 14:04:21 2013. Yes. |
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Posted by chud1 on Wed Jun 19 18:35:26 2013, in response to Re: (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by monorail on Wed Jun 19 17:11:17 2013. i walked from 8th ave after taking da A train from 59th st to madsion square garden. than walked to work at 33rd st between 10th and 11th ave.did not fell like taking da D train to 34th st and grabbing da manhattan 34 bus on 34th st. A train left me off closer to work. took da 1st car on da A train and i walk upstairs to da main post office and off i went. chud1. :).... |
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Posted by George Foelschow on Wed Jun 19 18:47:32 2013, in response to (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by Gold_12th on Wed Jun 19 14:01:15 2013. What is the location of the photo depicting four escalators? |
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Posted by overclocked on Wed Jun 19 18:56:48 2013, in response to (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by Gold_12th on Wed Jun 19 14:01:15 2013. First and last one are really lousy renderings. I wonder who did the contractor use to make them... |
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Posted by jasonnyc on Wed Jun 19 19:24:32 2013, in response to Re: (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by Bob Andersen on Wed Jun 19 14:04:21 2013. Yes, when the TBMs were digging, they eliminated the grade where the station was going to be to allow for side platform construction in the future should funds materialize. If I'm not mistaken, the original plan called for a center platform like the new 7 terminal and all of SAS. |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Wed Jun 19 19:48:48 2013, in response to Re: (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by George Foelschow on Wed Jun 19 18:47:32 2013. Upper Mezzanine to the street level entrance |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Jun 19 21:06:34 2013, in response to Re: (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jun 19 15:41:30 2013. "Corruption knows no bounds, does it? "Never did, never will. Corruption helped build this transit system & it will maintain it. Corruption makes the world go around. How many greased palms helped get the IND subway built in the first place?? How many greased palmes did it take to get any subway built?? Its just an neccessary evil, the cost of doing business. AKA reality Anyone out there saying "Hark corruption, god save us from the slaves of the dollar!!"...Get your head out of the sand! |
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Posted by Sand Box John on Wed Jun 19 23:56:30 2013, in response to Re: (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Wed Jun 19 15:06:38 2013. I was wondering why there aren't any 'ties' long enough for third rail.Direct fixation fasteners. Rail is attached to the concrete track bed on their own grout pads, third rail chairs on their own as well. No need the disturb the third rail grout pads when the running rail grout pads need to be replaced and vice versa. All of WMATA's concrete track beds are built that way. Thing I found odd is there is no escape area under the edge of the station platform like there is under WMATA station platforms. John in the sand box of Maryland's eastern shore. |
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Posted by WillD on Thu Jun 20 07:56:33 2013, in response to Re: (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by jasonnyc on Wed Jun 19 19:24:32 2013. It is possible that they may be able to create an island platform between the two TBM bored tubes as was done for the Shimo-Kitazawa Station in Japan. |
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Posted by Wado MP73 on Thu Jun 20 08:37:05 2013, in response to Re: (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by WillD on Thu Jun 20 07:56:33 2013. The new Shimokitazawa was designed like that to begin with. Different case. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Jun 20 08:55:04 2013, in response to Re: (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by jasonnyc on Wed Jun 19 19:24:32 2013. the is a section at the location of the 10th ave station where space for side platforms are built into the tunnel walls,and that's it. no shells. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jun 20 09:07:31 2013, in response to (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by Gold_12th on Wed Jun 19 14:01:15 2013. When is it scheduled to open? And why no extention to LaGuardia? |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Jun 20 09:10:38 2013, in response to Re: (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jun 20 09:07:31 2013. the LGA route was killed off by the spineless MTA bowing to community pressure. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jun 20 09:22:01 2013, in response to Re: (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by Edwards! on Thu Jun 20 09:10:38 2013. The NIMBYS. Thank you. I just find it ironic that the nation's biggest city, and greates subway system doesn't go to the airports. |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Thu Jun 20 10:52:43 2013, in response to (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by Gold_12th on Wed Jun 19 14:01:15 2013. Is this extension being built to Dual Contracts Specifications, Tunnel width, height and curve radius, and platform length,Just in case? |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jun 20 11:09:03 2013, in response to Re: (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by Avid Reader on Thu Jun 20 10:52:43 2013. All new subway construction is. |
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Posted by q4 on Thu Jun 20 13:44:21 2013, in response to Re: (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by jasonnyc on Wed Jun 19 19:24:32 2013. The original design called for a station shell at 10th Ave. to be built with with room for a center platform. It was an option but the City did not fund it, so it was dropped. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Thu Jun 20 13:47:55 2013, in response to Re: (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by jasonnyc on Wed Jun 19 19:24:32 2013. Yes, they leveled out the grade there should a future station ever materialize, but it will most likely be a center platform should that day come. There's an emergency exit/passage connecting the two tubes near Tenth Avenue. |
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Posted by q4 on Thu Jun 20 13:51:17 2013, in response to Re: (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by Edwards! on Thu Jun 20 09:10:38 2013. LGA was killed because the NIMBY's and Politicians from Astoria did not want it and no one from the City (who was to pay for it) wanted to take them on. |
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Posted by zac on Thu Jun 20 14:39:36 2013, in response to Re: (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by q4 on Thu Jun 20 13:51:17 2013. I've looked at the map and the streetview and I've always thought that they are basically 2 blocks away from industrial land from the Ditmars stop. Once on the industrial stretch you have a clear path to LGA without going through any neighborhood. It seems like it should be an easy one.I don't think it is NIMBY so much as a lack of desire to build it. |
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Posted by zac on Thu Jun 20 14:41:54 2013, in response to Re: (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jun 20 11:09:03 2013. Isn't it only the Steinway tubes that are not dual contract spec? |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Jun 20 14:59:57 2013, in response to Re: (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by zac on Thu Jun 20 14:41:54 2013. The Steinway tubes and the original IRT. Also during the dual contract construction, it was realized that since certain new IRT lines would be connected to the original subway, the 7 Av Line from T/Sq south while built with slightly larger clearances than the original subway, it was not built to the same specs as upper Lex or the BMT. |
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Posted by q4 on Thu Jun 20 15:50:06 2013, in response to Re: (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by zac on Thu Jun 20 14:39:36 2013. You are right about the location and it would seem that it wouldn't face that much opposition because of it. However, that was not the case and the community and politicians lined up against it. But you are also correct in that there is a lack of desire to build it now. |
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Posted by nh153 on Thu Jun 20 15:50:12 2013, in response to Re: (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by G1Ravage on Thu Jun 20 13:47:55 2013. So what stations are planned on the line? Is it just the final station, that will serve the Javits Center and the new development on 34 Street? Nothing between that and Times Square? |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Thu Jun 20 16:36:07 2013, in response to Re: (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by nh153 on Thu Jun 20 15:50:12 2013. 34 St/11 Av is the last stop for the extension.SUPPOSEDLY, there was a plan for a 10th Avenue/42 St station if King Bloomturd folk over additional $$$$ to build it. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Thu Jun 20 16:49:33 2013, in response to Re: (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by q4 on Thu Jun 20 13:44:21 2013. Was the proposed station centered under 10th Ave, or placed betweeen 9th and 10th Aves? |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Jun 20 19:47:56 2013, in response to Re: (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by zac on Thu Jun 20 14:39:36 2013. oh yeah?well. it was those folks who lived on those two blocks that screamed the loudest..fought the hardest..got the whining political drum beaters seeking fame for 15 minutes to throw in their hats.. MTA THREW IN THE TOWEL..funny part about that..they had a back up plan to build it from somewhere else..but said to hell with it. Astoria wanted a subway line along 21st St..from the 60th st tunnel..and the elevated line removed..since THAT would effectively triple the cost of the project..that was all she wrote. no subway extension will ever be built. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Jun 20 19:50:09 2013, in response to Re: (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by G1Ravage on Thu Jun 20 13:47:55 2013. nope..side platforms only. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Jun 20 19:59:46 2013, in response to Re: (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by Gold_12th on Thu Jun 20 16:36:07 2013. 10th ave "41st st"...not 42nd.. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Thu Jun 20 21:28:13 2013, in response to (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by Gold_12th on Wed Jun 19 14:01:15 2013. Nice. |
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Posted by WillD on Thu Jun 20 21:42:40 2013, in response to (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by Gold_12th on Wed Jun 19 14:01:15 2013. In the fourth photo the beam running above the platform edge seems a bit odd. Are they going to install platform screen doors at that station? I thought they'd dumped that element of the project to save money. |
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Posted by nh153 on Thu Jun 20 23:16:55 2013, in response to Re: (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by Edwards! on Thu Jun 20 19:59:46 2013. So no station at 8 Avenue/Port Authority? The extension will go directly from Times Sq. to 34 Street? |
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Posted by the Silence on Fri Jun 21 00:15:34 2013, in response to Re: (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by nh153 on Thu Jun 20 23:16:55 2013. what's the point of having two stations in the same complex? |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Jun 21 03:10:40 2013, in response to Re: (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by Edwards! on Thu Jun 20 19:47:56 2013. All the MTA would have had to say is yes, we will give yo what you want but it will cause the existing fare structure to be increased and a surtax will have to be imposed to finance the construction, but if that's what YOU want then of course we will give it to you if you are willing to pay for it. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Fri Jun 21 14:50:54 2013, in response to Re: (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by Edwards! on Thu Jun 20 19:47:56 2013. with all of those riverside condos going up along the Queens side of the East River, they should consider a 21st St tunnel. And continue it east on Ditmars to LGA. Either connect it to 63rd St, 60th St or the "G" line. I think we can all agree to keep the 31st St portion of the Astoria line. |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Fri Jun 21 15:00:06 2013, in response to Re: (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by WillD on Thu Jun 20 21:42:40 2013. Last I heard, they will do PSD when the station is in operation. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jun 21 15:25:53 2013, in response to Re: (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by zac on Thu Jun 20 14:39:36 2013. The best path to LaGuardia is to build the subway down the center of the GCP and divert the live from Astoria Blvd along it. This would actually remove the el from Astoria's CBD (a la Jamaica) at Ditmars. It's not ideal from a ridership perspective, but better politically. Any attempted extension north from Ditmars would almost certainly disrupt the heart of Astoria for years. |
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Posted by j trainloco on Fri Jun 21 17:30:12 2013, in response to Re: (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by Elkeeper on Fri Jun 21 14:50:54 2013. If you're building a line to the airport, it needs to go to the CBD. |
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