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Museum Rolling Stock

Posted by blue8irt on Wed May 15 09:01:46 2013

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Please forgive me in advance, I just do not know the status of these things. Are there Triplexes in the Coney Island Yard? If there are, when did they last run under their own power? Same as with the BMT Standards. And is it true the the 1939 World's fair car can never be put back together because of part pirating? Is it a lack of money to get it done? Why does one car languish for so long?

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Re: Museum Rolling Stock

Posted by Dj Hammers on Wed May 15 09:15:18 2013, in response to Museum Rolling Stock, posted by blue8irt on Wed May 15 09:01:46 2013.

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The D types are still at piktin I think.

If somebody could just list every museum car's condition and location, that would be greatly appreciated!

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Re: Museum Rolling Stock

Posted by William A. Padron on Wed May 15 09:17:44 2013, in response to Museum Rolling Stock, posted by blue8irt on Wed May 15 09:01:46 2013.

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D-Types/Triplexes = Pitkin Yard in storage, as I had heard or read here on SubChat. They did ran their own power getting there, AFAIK.

BMT "AB" Standards = Still at Coney Island Yard Shops, under a very long restoration it seems.

1938 WF Lo-V car = Seen in outdoor storage by itself at 207th Street Yard.

And if anyone asks me about the two surviving R-10's (#3184 and #3189), sorry I don't have their current status as of now. Given the state of those and these cars, I will just deal and accept now (for myself at least) #1575 (the almost R-10) and #5760 (the baby R-10, its new nickname as heard this past weekend) as the subtitutes as being as good it is ever going to get at this present state.

-William A. Padron
["149th Street"]


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Re: Museum Rolling Stock

Posted by Train Dude on Wed May 15 10:02:42 2013, in response to Re: Museum Rolling Stock, posted by Dj Hammers on Wed May 15 09:15:18 2013.

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6 of the D Types are still at Pitkin along with 4572-73

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Re: Museum Rolling Stock

Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Wed May 15 10:07:12 2013, in response to Re: Museum Rolling Stock, posted by Train Dude on Wed May 15 10:02:42 2013.

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Ah, the most famous subway cars in motion picture history. It would have been foolish for NYCT to scrap 4572-73.

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Re: Museum Rolling Stock

Posted by Train Dude on Wed May 15 10:09:45 2013, in response to Re: Museum Rolling Stock, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Wed May 15 10:07:12 2013.

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:)


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Re: Museum Rolling Stock

Posted by Train Dude on Wed May 15 10:11:50 2013, in response to Re: Museum Rolling Stock, posted by William A. Padron on Wed May 15 09:17:44 2013.

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I believe that 3189 was that blue monstrosity, it was hauled out of Pitkin yard years ago for reefing.

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Re: Museum Rolling Stock

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed May 15 10:38:20 2013, in response to Re: Museum Rolling Stock, posted by Train Dude on Wed May 15 10:11:50 2013.

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Did they at least strip it for parts so that 3192 may roll again?

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Re: Museum Rolling Stock

Posted by William A. Padron on Wed May 15 10:47:59 2013, in response to Re: Museum Rolling Stock, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed May 15 10:38:20 2013.

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#3189 was last displayed at the Transit Museum in 2007 (coupled to car #3184), so it was NOT reefed or scrapped TTBOMK. The two surviving R-10's are probably hiding somewhere. #3192 was stripped inside the Coney Island Yard main shops in the fall of 1980, then sent outside to the yard later scrapped.

-William A. Padron
["Gun Hill Road"]


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Re: Museum Rolling Stock

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed May 15 11:25:18 2013, in response to Re: Museum Rolling Stock, posted by William A. Padron on Wed May 15 10:47:59 2013.

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I mixed up the numbers. Of course I meant the surviving green R10.

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Re: Museum Rolling Stock

Posted by grand concourse on Wed May 15 11:38:02 2013, in response to Re: Museum Rolling Stock, posted by Train Dude on Wed May 15 10:02:42 2013.

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What's the status of the Willy B pair? Last time I saw it was like a year ago at CI yard from the Av X F platform.

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Re: Museum Rolling Stock

Posted by Mark S. Feinman on Wed May 15 12:53:39 2013, in response to Museum Rolling Stock, posted by blue8irt on Wed May 15 09:01:46 2013.

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The Triplexes, unless they got to Pitkin under their own power more recently, last ran under their own power on October 27th, 2004 as part of the NYTM's "Parade of Trains" couducted on the express tracks of the Brighton Line between Brighton Beach & Kings Highway. They did not carry passengers that day at all, though, as they needed help to get over the Manhattan Bridge and suffered mechanical difficulties as a result. The R-9s pulled them back to Coney Island Yard later that same evening.

--Mark

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Re: Museum Rolling Stock

Posted by Mr. D - Type on Wed May 15 13:07:50 2013, in response to Re: Museum Rolling Stock, posted by Mark S. Feinman on Wed May 15 12:53:39 2013.

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The Triplexes did in fact get to Pitkin under their own power and as some pictures have shown some exterior body work has also been started.

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Re: Museum Rolling Stock

Posted by blue8irt on Wed May 15 13:11:12 2013, in response to Museum Rolling Stock, posted by blue8irt on Wed May 15 09:01:46 2013.

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Thank you all for the much needed education. Of course, I wish all of them were up and running. Riding the D types and the Standards are my hope. I can dream.

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Re: Museum Rolling Stock

Posted by blue8irt on Wed May 15 13:11:41 2013, in response to Re: Museum Rolling Stock, posted by Mr. D - Type on Wed May 15 13:07:50 2013.

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sweet

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Re: Museum Rolling Stock

Posted by CJ on Wed May 15 13:31:41 2013, in response to Re: Museum Rolling Stock, posted by blue8irt on Wed May 15 13:11:12 2013.

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Years down the road they will be running hopefully. I also hope to be there too, to see these classics roll again. :)

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Re: Museum Rolling Stock

Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Wed May 15 14:46:54 2013, in response to Re: Museum Rolling Stock, posted by Mark S. Feinman on Wed May 15 12:53:39 2013.

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The R-9s pulled them back to Coney Island Yard later that same evening

Wow, those cars are strong enough to pull an entire DEAD trainset?

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Re: Museum Rolling Stock

Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Wed May 15 14:54:36 2013, in response to Re: Museum Rolling Stock, posted by William A. Padron on Wed May 15 10:47:59 2013.

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I wonder if that R10 is stored on the tracks between the Museum and Hoyt Street, I know they left the Slants there when they wasn't on display, I wonder if that's the case with the R10s? Most of the museum cars's locations are known except for that one, someone even found the R38 museum pair at Pikin Yard.

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Re: Museum Rolling Stock

Posted by Mr Railfan on Wed May 15 15:00:07 2013, in response to Re: Museum Rolling Stock, posted by grand concourse on Wed May 15 11:38:02 2013.

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If you're talking about the R40m-R42 Mismatch pair, it's still sitting there (as of 5/15/13). I doubt it will ever run again because it was covered up to its windows in salt water from CI Creek when sandy came around.

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Re: Museum Rolling Stock

Posted by William A. Padron on Wed May 15 15:12:33 2013, in response to Re: Museum Rolling Stock, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Wed May 15 14:54:36 2013.

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That what I heard the R-10's were there the last time around. However, on recent visits there, and unless the light bulbs are out at that section of the model board in the tower, I do not see them there lighted on the tracks west of the interlocking switch on the W/B side.

-William A. Padron
["Hoyt"]


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Re: Museum Rolling Stock

Posted by Grand concourse on Wed May 15 15:42:55 2013, in response to Re: Museum Rolling Stock, posted by Mr Railfan on Wed May 15 15:00:07 2013.

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Oic, damn... That's a shame.

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Re: Museum Rolling Stock

Posted by Grand concourse on Wed May 15 15:44:57 2013, in response to Re: Museum Rolling Stock, posted by Mark S. Feinman on Wed May 15 12:53:39 2013.

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Sucks the triplex ran once on that day. If only it did just one more trip. But overall that was a great day seeing all the trains rolling up and down Brighton.

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Re: Museum Rolling Stock

Posted by Mark S. Feinman on Thu May 16 14:07:26 2013, in response to Re: Museum Rolling Stock, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Wed May 15 14:46:54 2013.

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I guess so. Saw it myself at West 8th Street.

--Mark

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Re: Museum Rolling Stock

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu May 16 14:16:53 2013, in response to Re: Museum Rolling Stock, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Wed May 15 14:46:54 2013.

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Mucho beefo when you've got motors. They had to haul themselves around. :)

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Re: Museum Rolling Stock

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri May 17 20:58:42 2013, in response to Re: Museum Rolling Stock, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Wed May 15 10:07:12 2013.

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I'll second that.

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Re: Museum Rolling Stock

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri May 17 21:01:39 2013, in response to Re: Museum Rolling Stock, posted by blue8irt on Wed May 15 13:11:41 2013.

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Maybe I'll be able to ride on them someday after all.

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Re: Museum Rolling Stock

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri May 17 21:03:28 2013, in response to Re: Museum Rolling Stock, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu May 16 14:16:53 2013.

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And they can MOVE. Last summer's sprint up CPW bore out that point. Of course, having all healthy motors really helps.

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Re: Museum Rolling Stock

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 17 21:08:18 2013, in response to Re: Museum Rolling Stock, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri May 17 21:03:28 2013.

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And no snippy-snippy either. :)

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Re: Museum Rolling Stock

Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Fri May 17 21:50:42 2013, in response to Re: Museum Rolling Stock, posted by Mr. D - Type on Wed May 15 13:07:50 2013.

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The ceiling inside of 6019C needs immediate attention (a fan is loose). And there is plenty for the Body Doctors to do to that unit. I think 6112 is in better shape than 6019 from what I've heard.

wayne


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Re: Museum Rolling Stock

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri May 17 23:32:48 2013, in response to Re: Museum Rolling Stock, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 17 21:08:18 2013.

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No, the old timers were never neutered. The amazing part about that run was, we crawled as we pulled out of 59th St. (it was a five-car train; we stopped at mid-station to let someone off), then just before we reached the tunnel, Steve wrapped it and that train just took off. It was the good old days all over again - we were still gathering speed through 72nd St.

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Re: Museum Rolling Stock

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri May 17 23:34:28 2013, in response to Re: Museum Rolling Stock, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Fri May 17 21:50:42 2013.

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6095 still looks pretty good. Then again, it spends most of its time underground at the museum.

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Re: Museum Rolling Stock

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 17 23:47:19 2013, in response to Re: Museum Rolling Stock, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri May 17 23:32:48 2013.

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Oh yeah, know that run well. :)

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Re: Museum Rolling Stock

Posted by Mr. D - Type on Mon May 20 09:56:37 2013, in response to Re: Museum Rolling Stock, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Fri May 17 21:50:42 2013.

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Thank you, Mr. Wayne-Mr. SlantR40, I was aware of what has been / needs to be done, I am in touch with somebody in the know. I just did not spell it out, Thanks again.

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