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AirTrain JFK ridership is growing

Posted by Gold_12th on Tue Apr 9 11:30:11 2013

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Ridership on the AirTrain that takes passengers to Kennedy Airport has grown nearly 30% since 2007, according to the Port Authority.

The light rail line carried 5.7 million passengers in 2012, up from 4.3 million six years ago.

Patrick Foye, the authority’s executive director, said JFK customers and employees have found the rail line a convenient way to get to the airport while avoiding traffic congestion on the highways.

“It’s heavily used by airport employees for getting to work and moving around the airport,” Foye said.

That includes Cynthia Smith, 26, of Long Island, a Transportation Security Administration employee who rides the Long Island Rail Road to Jamaica Station in Queens, where she switches to the AirTrain.

“It’s convenient,”she said while waiting for a train at Jamaica Station.

“You don't have to drive.”

The AirTrain costs $5 for a round trip from Jamaica.

Smith said the AirTrain is also economical, saving her on gasoline and $33 a day in parking fees if she were to drive to work.

The only downside of the AirTrain is when it’s not running because of maintenance,

Smith said. “There are a lot of issues with delays and maintenance on the track,” she said.

“You never know when it’s going to happen Sometimes, employees are late because of it.”

Foye said a heavily-traveled light rail system is going to need to be taken offline for maintenance, and superstorm Sandy caused service disruptions.

However, when service is down shuttle buses are provide to replace train service, he said.

While AirTrain usage is going up, statistics kept by the Port Authority show that the number of airport users who pay for parking at all of the authority’s airports has fallen about 20% between 2007 and 2012.

--- AMNY

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Re: AirTrain JFK ridership is growing

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Apr 9 11:48:10 2013, in response to AirTrain JFK ridership is growing, posted by Gold_12th on Tue Apr 9 11:30:11 2013.

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I can see that. I don't think I'd ever consider flying from JFK (as I will be tomorrow) if the Airtrain didn't exist.

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Re: AirTrain JFK ridership is growing

Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Tue Apr 9 12:15:01 2013, in response to AirTrain JFK ridership is growing, posted by Gold_12th on Tue Apr 9 11:30:11 2013.

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The AirTrain costs $5 for a round trip from Jamaica.


Obviously am-NY doesn't have a clue about the "other" station which also requires a $5 fare.


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Re: AirTrain JFK ridership is growing

Posted by AlM on Tue Apr 9 12:20:21 2013, in response to Re: AirTrain JFK ridership is growing, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Tue Apr 9 12:15:01 2013.

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What's more, the retail fare is $5 one-way, not round trip.


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Re: AirTrain JFK ridership is growing

Posted by Gold_12th on Tue Apr 9 13:00:52 2013, in response to Re: AirTrain JFK ridership is growing, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Tue Apr 9 12:15:01 2013.

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Well, am-NY noted AirTrain JFK is running light rain system...


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Re: AirTrain JFK ridership is growing

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 9 13:15:54 2013, in response to Re: AirTrain JFK ridership is growing, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Apr 9 11:48:10 2013.

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Have a safe flight.

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Re: AirTrain JFK ridership is growing

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 9 13:15:54 2013, in response to Re: AirTrain JFK ridership is growing, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Apr 9 11:48:10 2013.

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Have a safe flight.

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Re: AirTrain JFK ridership is growing

Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Tue Apr 9 13:31:00 2013, in response to AirTrain JFK ridership is growing, posted by Gold_12th on Tue Apr 9 11:30:11 2013.

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good on both counts

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Re: AirTrain JFK ridership is growing

Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Tue Apr 9 13:40:13 2013, in response to Re: AirTrain JFK ridership is growing, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Apr 9 11:48:10 2013.

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I don't think I'd ever consider flying from JFK (as I will be tomorrow) if the Airtrain didn't exist.

It's certainly easier for me to play AirTrain + LIRR back to the South Shore of LI than to wait for a car service to show up and charge some crazy amount to go back home if my brother can't pick me up from the airport.

Late night flights from Newark, OTOH may end up leading to paying for the car service...

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Re: AirTrain JFK ridership is growing

Posted by grand concourse on Tue Apr 9 13:58:26 2013, in response to Re: AirTrain JFK ridership is growing, posted by Gold_12th on Tue Apr 9 13:00:52 2013.

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Daily News has also been sloppy with typos as well.

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Re: AirTrain JFK ridership is growing

Posted by Dyre Dan on Tue Apr 9 14:32:32 2013, in response to Re: AirTrain JFK ridership is growing, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Tue Apr 9 12:15:01 2013.

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The "other" station is still accepting $5 fares (or rather "fees") from people who pay them, but until "A" train service to the Rockaways is restored (and the shuttle buses from Howard Beach discontinued), it is a simple matter to walk between the "A" train and the "free" end of the Howard Beach AirTrain station, avoiding the $5 charge. You just have to know about the possibility, they aren't going to publicize it.

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Re: AirTrain JFK ridership is growing

Posted by Dyre Dan on Tue Apr 9 14:40:40 2013, in response to Re: AirTrain JFK ridership is growing, posted by grand concourse on Tue Apr 9 13:58:26 2013.

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All the papers are sloppy with typos nowadays.

Someone mentioned that proofreaders used to be employed to catch typesetting errors, and that now that there are no more typesetters, the proofreaders are gone too. Catching spelling and grammatical errors was a secondary function of the proofreaders, but since their primary job is no longer needed, the secondary function is no longer being performed. Unfortunate.

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Re: AirTrain JFK ridership is growing

Posted by NorthShore on Tue Apr 9 15:36:40 2013, in response to Re: AirTrain JFK ridership is growing, posted by Dyre Dan on Tue Apr 9 14:40:40 2013.

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What happened to "SPELL CHECK" . It should correct itself automatically.

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Re: AirTrain JFK ridership is growing

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 9 17:05:34 2013, in response to Re: AirTrain JFK ridership is growing, posted by NorthShore on Tue Apr 9 15:36:40 2013.

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Spell check won't catch words spelled correctly (such as "rain").

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Re: AirTrain JFK ridership is growing

Posted by Dyre Dan on Tue Apr 9 18:12:05 2013, in response to Re: AirTrain JFK ridership is growing, posted by NorthShore on Tue Apr 9 15:36:40 2013.

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Ewe don't wont to half to rely on spell Czech!

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Re: AirTrain JFK ridership is growing

Posted by grand concourse on Tue Apr 9 19:40:28 2013, in response to Re: AirTrain JFK ridership is growing, posted by Dyre Dan on Tue Apr 9 14:40:40 2013.

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Yup... and then even worse is when there's what looks like a whole line of text cut out because they ran out of room because they left in too much space to fit the image 'cutout'. Basically you have one line wasted by maybe 1 or 2 words, when if they didn't have to make the image so big, those words wouldn't need a whole line.

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Re: AirTrain JFK ridership is growing

Posted by N6 Limited on Tue Apr 9 20:40:03 2013, in response to AirTrain JFK ridership is growing, posted by Gold_12th on Tue Apr 9 11:30:11 2013.

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Now imagine the ridership if it ran to Laguardia as well. Or, the original plan, Midtown > LGA > Jamaica > JFK.

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Re: AirTrain JFK ridership is growing

Posted by zac on Tue Apr 9 21:06:58 2013, in response to AirTrain JFK ridership is growing, posted by Gold_12th on Tue Apr 9 11:30:11 2013.

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Why do your posts always look that way, single sentences to a paragraph? That would be a very stilted writing style unless it is conversational. Since you aren't writing them, why do they come out that way? I tend not to read them as they are difficult to read, again because I expect a conversation. I'm no English teacher, but I'd give a paper like that an F.

These posts would otherwise be fairly informative.

Just sayin...

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Re: AirTrain JFK ridership is growing

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Apr 9 23:04:05 2013, in response to Re: AirTrain JFK ridership is growing, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Tue Apr 9 13:40:13 2013.

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I prefer EWR since I can get on an Amtrak train to Washington from there if that is my destination. More flexibility to pick whether I'm going to/from NYC or DC from Newark than JFK.

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Re: AirTrain JFK ridership is growing

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Apr 9 23:04:28 2013, in response to Re: AirTrain JFK ridership is growing, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 9 13:15:54 2013.

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Thank you.

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Re: AirTrain JFK ridership is growing

Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Wed Apr 10 00:12:40 2013, in response to Re: AirTrain JFK ridership is growing, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Apr 9 11:48:10 2013.

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before AirTrain JetBlue had a van service to Jamaica a bit slower but free to customers and staff.

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Re: AirTrain JFK ridership is growing

Posted by WillD on Wed Apr 10 00:27:30 2013, in response to AirTrain JFK ridership is growing, posted by Gold_12th on Tue Apr 9 11:30:11 2013.

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If Airtrain, with its three car trains of B-division sized stock is "light rail" then does that make the Franklin Shuttle a light rail line?

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Re: AirTrain JFK ridership is growing

Posted by grand concourse on Wed Apr 10 11:10:53 2013, in response to Re: AirTrain JFK ridership is growing, posted by N6 Limited on Tue Apr 9 20:40:03 2013.

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I wonder if the Triboro can handle rail traffic? Ideally the AT to LGA should at least get to the MNCR stop at 125th st. I would have Jamaica be the transfer point for the LGA and JFK branches.

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Re: AirTrain JFK ridership is growing

Posted by Dyre Dan on Wed Apr 10 12:10:16 2013, in response to Re: AirTrain JFK ridership is growing, posted by grand concourse on Wed Apr 10 11:10:53 2013.

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I was wondering the same thing. If the suspension span of the Triboro can handle it but not the movable part, another possibility would be to split from he Triboro roadway at the Randall's Island (or rather Ward's Island) end of the suspension span and head west, crossing to Manhattan on its own bridge, which would bring it in around 102 St., and then connect to the Second Ave. Subway station at 96 St./2 Av.

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Re: AirTrain JFK ridership is growing

Posted by grand concourse on Wed Apr 10 13:44:22 2013, in response to Re: AirTrain JFK ridership is growing, posted by Dyre Dan on Wed Apr 10 12:10:16 2013.

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Interesting. I guess if they ever do intend on sending the SAS down the length of maybe CPW, then they probably don't need to send the AT past 2nd av. Talk about convenience for the UES: AT to LGA and no car needed.

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Re: AirTrain JFK ridership is growing

Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Wed Apr 10 13:47:42 2013, in response to Re: AirTrain JFK ridership is growing, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Apr 9 23:04:05 2013.

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Of course, and it makes far more sense for you to avail yourself of that option given that you're headed toward DC. In contrast, I've done the Long Island to EWR trip, and while it isn't the worst option ever*, it isn't as convenient as going to JFK. Although, given some of the consolidation in the industry, some of us may end up going to Newark far more often than we would like.

*The MLVs suck for luggage...

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Re: AirTrain JFK ridership is growing

Posted by geoffc on Wed Apr 10 17:20:42 2013, in response to Re: AirTrain JFK ridership is growing, posted by WillD on Wed Apr 10 00:27:30 2013.

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And what does it make the G train? Slightly pudgy rail?

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Re: AirTrain JFK ridership is growing

Posted by kp5308 on Wed Apr 10 20:50:21 2013, in response to Re: AirTrain JFK ridership is growing, posted by geoffc on Wed Apr 10 17:20:42 2013.

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How 'bout RotundRail

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