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Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!)

Posted by Grand concourse on Fri Feb 8 01:31:41 2013, in response to Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!), posted by Grand concourse on Fri Feb 8 01:30:53 2013.

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Limited to SI and Brooklyn *

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Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!)

Posted by Edwards! on Fri Feb 8 02:02:21 2013, in response to Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!), posted by Grand concourse on Fri Feb 8 01:30:53 2013.

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Yeah..I believe an investment SHOULD be made in Interboro BRT services..subways on the street,so to speak..

Extreme limited stops on SI to Bklyn..along 3RD OR 4TH AVENUE..or perhaps even another street..to the Tunnel[also limited BRT stations] up the West Side OR CENTER to Midtown..

Yes..it may take a little longer..but you wont get stuck in Traffic along the BQE...BRT TREATMENTS WILL INSURE the route get prority on the roadways..[HOV lanes..bus bulbs..signaling..etc]

No premium fare..just $3.00,a step up fare, will draw riders that dont want to take several modes of transportation to Manhattan..plus connect other sections of Brooklyn to Staten Island without taking the subway..plus connect the Bronx/Queens with SI via a transfer WITHOUT ferry service.

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Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!)

Posted by Grand concourse on Fri Feb 8 02:39:47 2013, in response to Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!), posted by Edwards! on Fri Feb 8 02:02:21 2013.

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Well I was thinking they should buy faster ferries. I doubt they need the huge ships that used to carry cars on the lower decks. Invest in higher speed boats and cut the travel time.

Not too familiar with the areas to comment on the brt, but it sounds interesting.

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Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!)

Posted by Edwards! on Fri Feb 8 03:20:29 2013, in response to Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!), posted by Grand concourse on Fri Feb 8 02:39:47 2013.

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Its a good idea that should be looked into[BRT]..
INTERBORO BRT lines can operate like trains on the surface from boro to boro..

The cost of building new subway lines has proven way too expensive for NY..we'll be lucky to get SAS finished in 20 years.
But a INTERBORO BRT line can be up and running in 3 if the proper treatments were given.

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Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!)

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri Feb 8 03:20:44 2013, in response to Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!), posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Thu Feb 7 18:04:18 2013.

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The ferries run every 15-20 minutes at rush hour in the morning, that isn't a lot of time. Yes, people might need to leave a bit earlier, but such is life somemtimes. And a schedule change is no different, I had a job in high school when the bus schedule was changed so all trips on the rush hour only route in the area operated 15 minutes later. As a result, I either had to leave the job about 5 minutes before I was supposed to (they were OK with this) or wait around for the next bus, about 25 minutes after I got off and about a 5 minute walk from where I was. If leaving a few minutes early wasn't an option, I would have just sucked it up and dealt with it, as one of the costs of using public transportation.

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Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!)

Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Fri Feb 8 05:05:19 2013, in response to Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!), posted by Edwards! on Fri Feb 8 03:20:29 2013.

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But a INTERBORO BRT line can be up and running in 3 if the proper treatments were given.

Given how the SBS planning process is dragging out, it could take a bit longer than one may suspect, and at best, you'll end up with a Q44 with SBS features. If you're talking about a dedicated busway, for the money and effort you'd blow, you might as well build proper streetcars...

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Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!)

Posted by Michael549 on Fri Feb 8 05:11:09 2013, in response to Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!), posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri Feb 8 03:20:44 2013.

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Continuing:

During the 1990's there were major discussions about the building of a new Manhattan Ferry terminal, the buying of new ferry boats, and the renovation of the St. George ferry terminal, a baseball stadium, and other activities. In between there where homeless issues in the cramped Manhattan ferry terminal, design changes in the plans requiring a much longer wait for construction, etc. Along with the regular G.O.s, the destruction of the World Trade Towers, and the cut-off of the #1 to South Ferry, and the arrival of new ferries to replace older ferry boats, etc.

There were huge periods of disruption due to the demolition of the old Manhattan terminal and the construction of the new Manhattan ferry terminal while handling ferry traffic, to build the new enclosure for the new entrance to the #1 train, to start construction of the park plaza, to start construction of the new #1 terminal station, to finish construction of the park plaza, the still not finished construction of the St. George ferry terminal - bus terminal, and associated baseball stadium and park. All the while the transit riders having to deal with various G.O.'s, bus, subway and train disruptions that happen as a matter of course.

And now the destruction by Hurricane Sandy to the new South Ferry terminal and the damage to nearby subway tunnels, the continuing efforts to restore the lower Manhattan area, as well as efforts to cope with all of these problems.

My point - just whenever things seem to be "stable" ... There's always a lot of having to "cope" with transportation problems.
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Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!)

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri Feb 8 06:26:54 2013, in response to Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!), posted by Michael549 on Fri Feb 8 05:11:09 2013.

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My point - just whenever things seem to be "stable" ... There's always a lot of having to "cope" with transportation problems.


This is true, but in the entitlement/immediacy era of today, many people don't feel that they should have to ever cope with anything.

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Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!)

Posted by 3-9 on Fri Feb 8 13:50:19 2013, in response to Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!), posted by G1Ravage on Thu Feb 7 12:00:25 2013.

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Despite the renovations, the 4/5 still isn't that close to the 2/3.

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Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!)

Posted by 3-9 on Fri Feb 8 14:08:06 2013, in response to Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!), posted by Michael549 on Fri Feb 8 05:11:09 2013.

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I know this is going off topic, but regarding the Staten Island ferry terminal: when was the one that burned down in 1991 built? I know it had to have followed the demolition of the 3rd Ave el, based on the only decent picture of the terminal I could find through Google.

Wikipedia was also unhelpful: it didn't distinguish between the one built in the early 1900's and the one that burned down in 1991.

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Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!)

Posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Fri Feb 8 14:14:32 2013, in response to Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!), posted by 3-9 on Fri Feb 8 14:08:06 2013.

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The terminal pictured above opened in 1956. It was designed by the firm of Roberts and Schaefer. Note the two ferry slips to the right of the building. The first one was for the Governor's Island Ferry and the one to the far right was for the Ellis Island Ferry. Thank you for finding this great picture.

Larry, RedbirdR33

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Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!)

Posted by 3-9 on Fri Feb 8 14:50:23 2013, in response to Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!), posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Fri Feb 8 14:14:32 2013.

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Thanks a lot too for the info!

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Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!)

Posted by Dyre Dan on Fri Feb 8 18:00:13 2013, in response to Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!), posted by Wallyhorse on Wed Feb 6 22:35:34 2013.

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So is the south entrance to Whitehall St. station (the one connected to South Ferry station) closed? Since it is not dependent on the damaged electrical equipment for the (1) line, couldn't it be reopened? Is it because the equipment controlling the turnstiles there is part of what was damaged? Or the escalators? If they could reopen that entrance, and institute an out-of-system transfer between the two Rector St. stations, that should be able to handle things until South Ferry can be repaired. The other possible interim solution would be to reopen the loop station temporarily, but that would take longer to implement.

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Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!)

Posted by Michael549 on Fri Feb 8 20:37:27 2013, in response to Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!), posted by Dyre Dan on Fri Feb 8 18:00:13 2013.

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The main entrance of the Whitehall Street station of the R-train is open, that is the entrance nearest to the Ferry Terminal. This entrance was a part of the original Whitehall Street station, and retains two original side staircases near the One New York office building. As well as nearby MetroCard vending machines. Where the old station agent booth for the BMT station used to be, there are/were electronic signage, additional MetroCard machines, etc. The walls retain the original tile from the station's construction in the 1920's.

In front of the Whitehall Ferry terminal is a glass-topped new entrance to the Whitehall Street-South Ferry subway station. This entrance used a part of the original BMT passageway that was closer to the ferry terminal. This passageway has been rebuilt/ demolished/constructed to be the "bridge passageway" between the two stations, and the new glass-topped entrance to the station complex that opened in 2009. This entrance contained the new escalators, elevators, a new station agent booth as well as electronic turnstyles-signage equipment for the new #1 terminal. Much of this equipment was damaged by Hurricane Sandy. This section also contained the new stairways to the #1 platform, as well as escalators, and elevators to/form the platform. There was a dispatcher's office with electronic equipment, electronic signages, and other station furniture along the platform - all damaged or destroyed by Hurricane Sandy. Right now all of the features or parts of the station that directly connected to the #1 portion of the station complex has been closed off by blue wooden plank walls. If is as if the station complex has been returned to its days of only serving the R-train.

Mike

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Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!)

Posted by kew gardens teleport on Sat Feb 9 04:21:49 2013, in response to Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!), posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Feb 7 10:21:17 2013.

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They could also take PATH to the HBLR to the S89.

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Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!)

Posted by Joe V on Sat Feb 9 08:23:22 2013, in response to Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!), posted by kew gardens teleport on Sat Feb 9 04:21:49 2013.

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S89 is not a full time operation, unfortunately.

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Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!)

Posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Feb 9 08:51:32 2013, in response to Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!), posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Feb 7 05:24:32 2013.

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Some thoughts from a friend of mime. He told me to pass this on.

I think they have 2 big problems there. 1. getting a full and accurate assessment of the damage. 2.Making a decision which is more difficult in that so much is new, but the cheaper repair might involve the old station which, if I understand correctly, is still there.

I guess, and this is just a guess, using the old station, manually dispatched, will be the quickest and cheapest option and it might already have been done except for the unique gap fillers, the pieces of which probably got scrapped! Then comes fare collection barriers, lighting and all the things which go into making a subway station safe and usable. those are things which we as passengers and fans often take for granted but the MTA can't ignore.

Putting Budd cars on used trucks from PATH (for the P&W) probably didn't cost very much, but whatever they choose for south ferry, we are talking many millions and potential ongoing for extra staff. I bet that's what is holding it up.



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Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!)

Posted by Edwards! on Sat Feb 9 09:08:31 2013, in response to Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!), posted by Snarf368 on Thu Feb 7 09:14:23 2013.

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there is also the bus..

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Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!)

Posted by Joe V on Sat Feb 9 09:42:24 2013, in response to Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!), posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Feb 9 08:51:32 2013.

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We can also just fully restore the old station, stuff the old one with landfill like parts of the Rochester subway, and forget it.

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Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!)

Posted by kew gardens teleport on Sat Feb 9 10:03:41 2013, in response to Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!), posted by Joe V on Sat Feb 9 08:23:22 2013.

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It only runs when most people get out of work... :-)

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Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!)

Posted by J Trainloco on Sat Feb 9 10:03:45 2013, in response to Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!), posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Feb 9 08:51:32 2013.

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The gap fillers are not only still intact, but were also being maintained.

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Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!)

Posted by Joe V on Sat Feb 9 10:07:45 2013, in response to Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!), posted by J Trainloco on Sat Feb 9 10:03:45 2013.

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I didn't know hat. Others had inferred they were gone, but possibly stored at an undisclosed location.

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Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!)

Posted by kew gardens teleport on Sat Feb 9 10:20:26 2013, in response to Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!), posted by Joe V on Sat Feb 9 10:07:45 2013.

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Others had inferred they were gone, but possibly stored at an undisclosed location.

Yes, they were stored about here.

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Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!)

Posted by Joe V on Sat Feb 9 10:31:54 2013, in response to Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!), posted by kew gardens teleport on Sat Feb 9 10:20:26 2013.

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Oh yes, of course. I thought it was down in a tunnel with Diammond's steam engine.

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Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!)

Posted by Elkeeper on Sat Feb 9 13:41:39 2013, in response to Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!), posted by Joe V on Sat Feb 9 09:42:24 2013.

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I agree! If the new SF is rebuilt, what happens when the next "Sandy" hits?

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Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!)

Posted by Michael549 on Sun Feb 10 09:49:54 2013, in response to Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!), posted by Elkeeper on Sat Feb 9 13:41:39 2013.

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From a previous message: "I agree! If the new SF is rebuilt, what happens when the next "Sandy" hits?"

Most likely what would happen - simple the station would be better prepared for such an event, considering the money that would be spent to restore and repair the station.

Think about it, when there were criminals in the subways that were tossing or starting fires inside the token booths to rob them - the MTA worked on the problem so that such an event was unlikely to happen again.

When an M-train ran into the back of a J-train while crossing the Williamsburg Bridge, - the MTA worked on the problem so that such an event was unlikely to happen again.

When a G-train on the express track at Roosevelt Avenue attempted to cross over to the local track, while at the same time, there was a G-train already moving on that same local track - the MTA worked on the problem so that such an event was unlikely to happen again.

I have faith that the MTA will in restoring and repairing the new South Ferry terminal of the #1 train - the MTA would work on the problem so that such an event was unlikely to happen again. Just as in the rebuilding of the tracks to/from the Rockaways, the MTA will rebuild the tracks in a way to make it less likely that they could be washed away in a heavy storm.

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Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!)

Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Sun Feb 10 12:06:57 2013, in response to Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!), posted by Michael549 on Sun Feb 10 09:49:54 2013.

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Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!)

Posted by Joe V on Sun Feb 10 13:58:07 2013, in response to Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!), posted by Michael549 on Sun Feb 10 09:49:54 2013.

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You can have what you want given the money.

If it would cost $300M to put the old station back, or $600M to restore the old one, I'd go for the former, and use the difference for something else.

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Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!)

Posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Feb 10 16:14:31 2013, in response to Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!), posted by Joe V on Sun Feb 10 13:58:07 2013.

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I would go for the former as well anyway, and look to somehow extend it to make it a full 10-car station.

Given I would never have closed the old station in the first place, but instead retrofitted it to make it and all of Bowling Green ADA compliant so I could repurpose the station for Lexington Avenue Line use (something I would still do anyway, including reviving the old BG-SF shuttle for times there is not enough capapcity between BG and BB to send the (6) to BG and then old SF and the 4/5 are running to Brooklyn), I would think doing what's necessary to re-open the old station EVEN IF the current one is eventually rebuilty is what I would do.

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Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!)

Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Sun Feb 10 17:07:45 2013, in response to Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!), posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Feb 10 16:14:31 2013.

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Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!)

Posted by Nilet on Sun Feb 10 17:12:56 2013, in response to Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!), posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Feb 10 16:14:31 2013.

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Well I would use the Dimensional Interlink Systems Triangle to travel to a universe where the old South Ferry station had never been shut down in the first place.

So there.

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Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!)

Posted by Elkeeper on Sun Feb 10 17:17:33 2013, in response to Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!), posted by Michael549 on Sun Feb 10 09:49:54 2013.

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I respect all religions, even Scientologists and those who worship the MTA gods. But, even before the "Deluge", the new SF station was leaking badly and the water damage was beginning to show. We have all seen pictures of this. However, I do hope that your prayers to the MTA gods are answered- for the sake of all of us. And, while you are on your knees, would you also ask the gods to fix Chambers Street on the "J"? Thank you and bless you, my child!!!

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Posted by merrick1 on Sun Feb 10 17:30:48 2013, in response to Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!), posted by Elkeeper on Sun Feb 10 17:17:33 2013.

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How soon after they were built did other stations start leaking? There are plenty of stations with water problems. Did they start leaking the day they were build or did it take a while?

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Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!)

Posted by Joe V on Sun Feb 10 17:50:41 2013, in response to Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!), posted by Elkeeper on Sun Feb 10 17:17:33 2013.

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Speaking of which, if Fed money for New South Ferry would be applied only to the old station, I'd use the difference to rebuild the Chambers Rat Hole.

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Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!)

Posted by Snarf368 on Sun Feb 10 19:01:08 2013, in response to Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!), posted by Joe V on Sun Feb 10 17:50:41 2013.

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I don't think it works like that. Feds don't hand over money and spend as you wish. If any money is granted, likely all will have to go to recovery from storm damage.

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Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!)

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Feb 10 19:15:19 2013, in response to Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!), posted by Elkeeper on Sun Feb 10 17:17:33 2013.

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I've been praying for B. O. to come to his senses ever since he took office. Now I'm counting the days until he drags his sorry ass out of Washington.

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Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!)

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Feb 10 19:20:06 2013, in response to Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!), posted by Michael549 on Sun Feb 10 09:49:54 2013.

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That Williamsburg Bridge tragedy resulted in the whole damn system being slowed down to the point where it is now leisurely transit. You'll get there - eventually.

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Re: Leaking Stations was (Re: Well this is ...

Posted by Elkeeper on Sun Feb 10 21:42:55 2013, in response to Leaking Stations was (Re: Well this is ..., posted by merrick1 on Sun Feb 10 17:30:48 2013.

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The leaks at new South Ferry appeared a few weeks after it opened, I believe.

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Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!)

Posted by italianstallion on Sun Feb 10 23:29:25 2013, in response to Re: Well, this is interesting... (Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!), posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Feb 10 19:15:19 2013.

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And this has to do with this thread . . .how?

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Re: Leaking Stations was (Re: Well this is ...

Posted by Joe V on Mon Feb 11 14:33:58 2013, in response to Re: Leaking Stations was (Re: Well this is ..., posted by Elkeeper on Sun Feb 10 21:42:55 2013.

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Isn't the escalators were constantly breaking down/shorting out from the get go ?

Of course the Archer Av subway stations are not an engineering master-peice either.

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Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!

Posted by Graham on Mon Aug 12 20:52:01 2013, in response to Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!, posted by Grand concourse on Mon Jan 21 01:28:11 2013.

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A couple of interesting posts from the Second Avenue Sagas blog on the 2nd Avenue Phase Two.

"In last night’s post, I delved into Rep. Carolyn Maloney’s Second Ave. Subway report card and issued a call for someone to take on the mantle of championing Phase II of the four-part project. Maloney and her office took exception to my angle, and yesterday, I’ve learned that Phase II may be inching closer toward a reality than we previous knew. Perhaps, it has one of its funding champions already in place."

See: http://secondavenuesagas.com/2013/07/31/carolyn-maloney-and-the-second-ave-phase-ii-sagas/#sthash.AIx6mmwf.dpuf

and

"Pressure from certain realms of New York City politics to keep moving forward on the Second Ave. Subway has grown stronger over the past few weeks as Representative Carolyn Maloney has trained her attention on Phase 2 of the project. After drawing out some words from the MTA on the fate of the project, she and Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver have penned a letter to MTA Chairman and CEO Tom Prendergast. Maloney could be emerging as the champion who can keep this capital construction effort moving forward."

See: http://secondavenuesagas.com/2013/08/09/maloney-silver-urge-forward-progress-on-sas-phase-2/#sthash.PcxtF8Xl.dpuf

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Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!

Posted by R62CNG on Mon Aug 12 21:03:38 2013, in response to Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Fix Could Take Up To 3 YEARS!!!, posted by Graham on Mon Aug 12 20:52:01 2013.

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For one station? Damn.

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Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Closed for Forseeable Future

Posted by kew gardens teleport on Mon Aug 12 21:10:32 2013, in response to South Ferry (1) Train Station Closed for Forseeable Future, posted by Gold_12th on Thu Jan 17 23:52:27 2013.

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MTA officials say no one is comtemplating not rebuilding the station, which is normally used by 30,000 of the 70,000 people who ride the Staten Island Ferry on a weekday.

It's just that no-one is contemplating rebuilding it either... ;-)

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Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Closed for Forseeable Future

Posted by snarf368 on Mon Aug 12 21:20:51 2013, in response to South Ferry (1) Train Station Closed for Forseeable Future, posted by Gold_12th on Thu Jan 17 23:52:27 2013.

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Thanks for postings a 7 month old article

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Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Closed for Forseeable Future

Posted by R62CNG on Mon Aug 12 21:28:28 2013, in response to Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Closed for Forseeable Future, posted by kew gardens teleport on Mon Aug 12 21:10:32 2013.

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How right you are.

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Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Closed for Forseeable Future

Posted by R30A on Mon Aug 12 22:27:23 2013, in response to Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Closed for Forseeable Future, posted by snarf368 on Mon Aug 12 21:20:51 2013.

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It wasn't 7 months old 7 months ago...

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Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Closed for Forseeable Future

Posted by R62CNG on Mon Aug 12 22:28:26 2013, in response to Re: South Ferry (1) Train Station Closed for Forseeable Future, posted by R30A on Mon Aug 12 22:27:23 2013.

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Haha.

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