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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jan 8 18:22:57 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by RailBus63 on Tue Jan 8 15:22:25 2013. Maybe the TSS' are too busy with radar guns. :-\ |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jan 8 18:39:34 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jan 8 17:13:51 2013. Well maybe if you had checked it before you signed off on the car, they wouldn't have to worry. |
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Posted by VictorM on Tue Jan 8 18:41:10 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by randyo on Tue Jan 8 13:18:43 2013. According to the datasheets from nycsubway.org all the IRT SMEE cars (R12 to R62) had exactly the same door opening width: 4 feet, 2 inches. I think the reason they tried to squeeze in more seats on the R62's was because of the space taken up by the across-the-car cabs. |
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Posted by Allan on Tue Jan 8 18:46:17 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by Fisk ave Jim on Mon Jan 7 20:12:46 2013. Yes, they were used goods but they were in good condition. The Westchester Yard did a good job of keeping them that way.I can't really say the same for the Corona Yard. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jan 8 18:57:27 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by Joe V on Tue Jan 8 17:43:19 2013. Beats me. In that case you are correct. |
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Posted by Fisk ave Jim on Tue Jan 8 19:14:05 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by Allan on Tue Jan 8 18:46:17 2013. Im inclined to aggree with you but I have nothing to back it up other than their performance in the Steinway tunnel. They were dogs comming up the hill into Vernon Jackson with a rush hour load. The R-33-36s were better performers IMO. When they'd platform at VJ, you could feel the heat from the resistors amidship. |
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Posted by Allan on Tue Jan 8 19:14:24 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Mon Jan 7 22:30:53 2013. You get 10 singles and you can make a full train for the 6 |
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Posted by BigBusDriver on Tue Jan 8 19:47:13 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by VictorM on Tue Jan 8 18:41:10 2013. I think the reason they tried to squeeze in more seats on the R62's was because of the space taken up by the across-the-car cabs.IINM they didn't ORIGINALLY come with the full width cabs. As delivered, they were all RFW equipped, or am I wrong? STILL LOL@BBD WRONG AGAIN?? |
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Posted by Fisk ave Jim on Tue Jan 8 19:51:09 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Jan 7 22:52:04 2013. Thats right! Thats the mentality that was used to try to justify graffiti back then. "I don't care what the car looks like, just get me where I want to go" the Andy Warhol loving types said.You'd be suprised. People do notice what they are riding in. Espicially when there gonna get whacked for a fare increaase every two years. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Jan 8 19:56:23 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by Fisk ave Jim on Tue Jan 8 13:45:39 2013. Where else did the artens go in '48? |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Jan 8 20:12:18 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by Joe V on Tue Jan 8 17:01:42 2013. it is better than rolling around in a 142. Those things are so generic. And antiseptic. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Jan 8 20:19:54 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by Fisk ave Jim on Tue Jan 8 19:51:09 2013. No no no you're comparing apples and oranges between filth and apparent newness. And I am no tree hugger by any means or Warhol groupie. |
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Posted by Mr. MTA on Tue Jan 8 21:31:49 2013, in response to Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by G1Ravage on Mon Jan 7 16:07:13 2013. Can anyone confirm that the R62A set ran this afternoon during rush hour? I waited for it from 6 to 8:30pm at 3rd Ave - 138th Street and it never showed. It definitely was not running while I was looking for it. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Jan 8 21:45:04 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by Mr. MTA on Tue Jan 8 21:31:49 2013. Can anyone confirm that the R62A set ran this afternoon during rush hour? I waited for it from 6 to 8:30pm at 3rd Ave - 138th Street and it never showed. It definitely was not running while I was looking for it.No it did not run they had to do a few things more i guess with it... |
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Posted by Mr. MTA on Tue Jan 8 21:55:50 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by Railman718 on Tue Jan 8 21:45:04 2013. -_- Aww man! |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jan 8 21:57:10 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by Railman718 on Tue Jan 8 21:45:04 2013. I'm not going to say it! |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Jan 8 22:12:21 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jan 8 21:57:10 2013. Dont say it! |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Jan 8 22:20:04 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jan 8 21:57:10 2013. Don't. For dan lawrence's sake just don't. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jan 8 22:25:13 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Jan 8 22:20:04 2013. hahahhaah - okay |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Tue Jan 8 22:26:04 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Tue Jan 8 12:58:30 2013. True enough. I was born on July 13, 1948 and will be 65 next July 13. Baltimore's last 2 streetcar line ended service on November 3, 1963. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Tue Jan 8 22:26:12 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Tue Jan 8 12:58:30 2013. True enough. I was born on July 13, 1948 and will be 65 next July 13. Baltimore's last 2 streetcar line ended service on November 3, 1963. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jan 8 22:30:28 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by Dan Lawrence on Tue Jan 8 22:26:04 2013. I've noted that on my calander, dan lawrence. Wouldn't want to miss another party. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Jan 8 22:30:47 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by Dan Lawrence on Tue Jan 8 22:26:04 2013. Wow you turned 29 when NYC was in a blackout! |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Jan 8 22:31:09 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by Joe V on Tue Jan 8 17:43:19 2013. I was referring to the single cars that would be inserted into a 5-car, converted R-142A set, making it a 6-car set. I think the new single car is officially an R-188.So there will be 11-car R-188s (1 5-car set + 1 6-car set) and 11-car trains of 10 R-142As with a single R-188 inserted into one of the 5-car sets to make it a 6-car set. Hope that clears it up (probably not) |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Jan 8 22:31:21 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jan 8 22:30:28 2013. hahhaahahahahahahaha |
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Posted by mshull on Tue Jan 8 22:46:14 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Jan 8 22:31:09 2013. Wrong. A set of GOHed R142As is no longer an R142A set.All the trains on the Flushing line will be R188 only. There will be no R142As at all. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jan 8 22:50:47 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by Dan Lawrence on Tue Jan 8 22:26:12 2013. Proof required! |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Wed Jan 9 03:48:03 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by Stef on Tue Jan 8 01:27:19 2013. 7826 is on property. It is alone, attached to a diesel at 239th Street Yard. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Wed Jan 9 03:51:32 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by Stef on Tue Jan 8 17:24:22 2013. That's a good question. You know, I just assumed that the 'C' car in the new six-car unit would have a number above 7899, so that the A cars could stick with the "last digit ending in 0/1/4/5" routine that we've had in the A Division for so long. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Wed Jan 9 03:54:19 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by RailBus63 on Tue Jan 8 15:22:25 2013. Unless one of the supervisors or managers had previous Flushing Line experience, it's doubtful anyone would have thought of that little quandary. They probably asked for ten cars with LED overlays, and that's what they got! It's very likely that many of the (6) line crews have not worked the (7) much (if at all) since they got their new signs a few years ago. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Wed Jan 9 03:55:03 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 8 11:55:24 2013. LOLGo walk the plank.... |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Wed Jan 9 03:59:46 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by mshull on Tue Jan 8 12:34:35 2013. The (7) line doesn't change the front roll sign curtains at all. The side LED overlays (and PA announcements) are used to announce local or express status. It will be the same on the (6).I'm hearing that the north roll signs will be permanently set to Pelham Bay Park for now. C/R announcements will provide the final stop as being Parkchester when necessary. And in any event, the countdown clocks will properly announce the status and destination of every arriving train. "There is, an--uptown, local, (6) train to Parkchester, approaching the station." |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Jan 9 04:03:10 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by G1Ravage on Wed Jan 9 03:59:46 2013. Permanently? Meaning the crews just won't change them? |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Wed Jan 9 04:14:27 2013, in response to Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by G1Ravage on Mon Jan 7 16:07:13 2013. I have some further info from my Pelham Line nakama:As expected, the R-62A will be lightly used...one trip per day, in fact. It's *scheduled* to depart Pelham Bay Park at 4:38 PM, arriving at Brooklyn Bridge - City Hall at 5:36 PM. Then it departs Brooklyn Bridge at 5:43 PM, operating as a <6> express, arriving at Pelham Bay Park at 6:41 PM. It will then be laid-up back to Westchester Yard. If the road blows up, some put-ins don't necessarily leave the yard. It's likely that the R-62A would be withheld in such a situation. With any luck, it'll show its face today. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Wed Jan 9 04:15:15 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Jan 9 04:03:10 2013. Correct. They don't have enough personnel anymore for frequent sign changing. There used to be jobs for that back in the day. |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Jan 9 05:26:39 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by G1Ravage on Mon Jan 7 18:03:55 2013. It should have transverse cabs on all ends.:( I've ridden the <6> with a RFW plenty of times on pre-linkage R62s and various redbirds but I never thought to bring a video camera. Not that I owned one or could have convinced my parents to buy one, admittedly. And even if I had, they'd be on VHS with the resulting poor quality. Oh well. :( |
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Posted by renee gil on Wed Jan 9 08:35:24 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jan 7 19:36:51 2013. I remember when the R-62A made their first appearance on the 6 in the summer of 1987. |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Wed Jan 9 09:27:24 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by renee gil on Wed Jan 9 08:35:24 2013. me too and if they could have been maintained esthetically I would have no problem with them. I suppose I have the issue with them because I too remember the tremendous esthetic impact they made on the #4 line (R-62). I even remember reading that the introduction of these cars started attractign more riders back. THey actually revealed the numbers in the newspaper.The first NEW car I was old enough to remember was the R-46. But when it was delivered all shiny and new there was no comprehensive plan to deal with esthetic and vandalism issues with the rest of the rolling stock. When the R-62 was delivered, they were part of David Gunn's comprehensive plan of finally dealing with esthetics and vandalism. To this day the GOH Redbird on the #2 line is my favorite. I even purchased the Lionel set of them as a feel good post 9/11 gift to myself on 9/14. THe only R-62 (A) that look good are on the shuttle with the wraps. |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Wed Jan 9 10:46:35 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by rbseabeach on Wed Jan 9 09:27:24 2013. Say what you want about the R62(A) they will in all likelihood last longer than the cars they replaced. While they do not have a RFW the subway is a much nicer place because of some of Gunn's efforts |
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Posted by grand concourse on Wed Jan 9 15:01:22 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by mtk52983 on Wed Jan 9 10:46:35 2013. You think they will run a total of 50 years? |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Jan 9 15:17:06 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by BigBusDriver on Tue Jan 8 19:47:13 2013. While they initially had only corner cabs, they were designed so that the cabs could be made transverse by moving a bulkhead opposite the corner cab. |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Wed Jan 9 16:44:26 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by grand concourse on Wed Jan 9 15:01:22 2013. How long did the R14/15/17/21/22 last in service? As I recall some barely did more than 30-35 years |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Jan 9 16:49:29 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by G1Ravage on Tue Jan 8 01:03:54 2013. @ Saint Larence now |
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Posted by CJ on Wed Jan 9 16:52:25 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by mtk52983 on Wed Jan 9 16:44:26 2013. You are correct about the age. Some didn't last as long as their younger counterparts that would become the Redbirds. Of course I did hear these cars had much thicker steel and didn't rust as much or at all compared to the Redbirds.Most of the R27s didn't even make 30 years of service, cause they were so messed up by then. Even if they survived any longer they would of been gone any way in 1993 looking at the events that took place with the rebuilt R30s. |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Jan 9 16:52:44 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Jan 9 16:49:29 2013. It's a contemporary Nostalgia Train, what with all the railfans on board. |
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Posted by renee gil on Wed Jan 9 17:11:41 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by mtk52983 on Wed Jan 9 16:44:26 2013. How long did the R14/15/17/21/22 last in service?R14 - 35 Years (1949-84) R15 - 34 Years (1950-84) R17 - 33/32 Years (1955/56-88) R21/22 - 30/31 Years (1956/57 - 87) |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Jan 9 17:22:02 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Jan 9 16:52:44 2013. RFWs? |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Wed Jan 9 17:37:08 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Jan 9 16:52:44 2013. lol A who's who of fanners? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jan 9 17:47:08 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by mtk52983 on Wed Jan 9 16:44:26 2013. At that time, NYCT had cars built to last about that long. |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Jan 9 18:19:18 2013, in response to Re: Ready for SMEE on the (6)?, posted by Nilet on Wed Jan 9 17:22:02 2013. Yes, on the 2141-2145 set. |
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