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Posted by mike cruz on Fri Dec 28 15:02:44 2012 http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=514885575210476&set=a.190879967611040.46491.104119396287098&type=1&theatersorry it's a FB pic. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Dec 28 15:12:43 2012, in response to Old J train el at 134 st. (pic), posted by mike cruz on Fri Dec 28 15:02:44 2012.  Date is 1990 because demolition has begun. |
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Posted by mike cruz on Fri Dec 28 15:23:55 2012, in response to Re: Old J train el at 134 st. (pic), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Dec 28 15:12:43 2012. Thank you Chris. |
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Posted by Joe V on Fri Dec 28 15:44:27 2012, in response to Old J train el at 134 st. (pic), posted by mike cruz on Fri Dec 28 15:02:44 2012. I see (for the first time) they placed concrete in the end pillars |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Fri Dec 28 15:52:38 2012, in response to Re: Old J train el at 134 st. (pic), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Dec 28 15:12:43 2012. The new el looks like a standard highway overpass.... |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Dec 28 16:07:24 2012, in response to Re: Old J train el at 134 st. (pic), posted by G1Ravage on Fri Dec 28 15:52:38 2012. It's a concrete viaduct, like parts of the Babylon branch. This was the style of the 70's. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Dec 28 16:08:33 2012, in response to Re: Old J train el at 134 st. (pic), posted by Joe V on Fri Dec 28 15:44:27 2012. That came later. Probably has something to do with those severed power lines. |
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Posted by VictorM on Fri Dec 28 16:23:05 2012, in response to Old J train el at 134 st. (pic), posted by mike cruz on Fri Dec 28 15:02:44 2012. Thanks for finding the photo, but it was located near 129 St looking east. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Dec 28 16:27:21 2012, in response to Re: Old J train el at 134 st. (pic), posted by VictorM on Fri Dec 28 16:23:05 2012. Right, I missed that. 134th St was the location of the alternate mezzanine of the Metropolitan Ave station. |
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Posted by chud1 on Fri Dec 28 17:15:56 2012, in response to Re: Old J train el at 134 st. (pic), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Dec 28 15:12:43 2012. excellent picture.chud1 |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Dec 28 17:19:20 2012, in response to Re: Old J train el at 134 st. (pic), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Dec 28 16:07:24 2012. That could be the design for a "new" 2 Av el like the one that has been discussed in some other posts. |
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Posted by Bob Andersen on Fri Dec 28 17:28:56 2012, in response to Re: Old J train el at 134 st. (pic), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Dec 28 15:12:43 2012. They should have put in the third track instead of demolishing it. |
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Posted by renee gil on Sun May 19 04:51:50 2013, in response to Re: Old J train el at 134 st. (pic), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Dec 28 15:12:43 2012. Cool pic! how come I missed this thread? |
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Posted by renee gil on Sun May 19 04:53:09 2013, in response to Re: Old J train el at 134 st. (pic), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Dec 28 15:12:43 2012. this pic taken before October, 1990 |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Sun May 19 16:05:32 2013, in response to Re: Old J train el at 134 st. (pic), posted by Bob Andersen on Fri Dec 28 17:28:56 2012. There have been a lot of threads here about an express third track and lack of express stations on dual contracts extension of the Jamaica el. Exactly why it was not done is a mystery, open to lots of theories. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 20 14:14:59 2013, in response to Re: Old J train el at 134 st. (pic), posted by Elkeeper on Sun May 19 16:05:32 2013. And ironically, out of all the dual contract els that got their express track, the Jamaica one needed it the most (outside of ther Flushing line, which is the only one that needs it more). |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon May 20 14:19:33 2013, in response to Re: Old J train el at 134 st. (pic), posted by Elkeeper on Sun May 19 16:05:32 2013. As I have heard, it was left out to both speed construction of the el and because of steel shortages necessitated by WWI. It was intended to be done after the war. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon May 20 14:40:53 2013, in response to Re: Old J train el at 134 st. (pic), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon May 20 14:19:33 2013. Although that may be true, it's odd that there were no provisions made for any express stations on either the Jamaica Line, the reconstructed portion or Liberty Av portions of the Fulton El. It probably would have made some sense to have fanned out the tracks and built express type island platforms at stations like Woodhaven Blvd and possibly Sutphin Blvd on the Jamaica Line and Rockaway Blvd on the Fulton El. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon May 20 14:47:15 2013, in response to Re: Old J train el at 134 st. (pic), posted by randyo on Mon May 20 14:40:53 2013. I do find that odd. Another theory is that the idea was abandoned after construction began due to the difficulty of retrofitting the Fulton St portion of the line for 3 track service. It's so narrow at some points that the typical structure would not work. A flyover would have been expensive. Another reason would be that capacity from Canarsie and Myrtle Ave would have limited the ability to exploit such an express service.Maybe there were plans for an express track only if the line was extended further east, past 168th St, with a long express run between Jamaica and ENY. |
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