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Posted by ENY Blitz 5107 on Thu Aug 30 18:17:09 2012 Greetings all!!! I just recieved word today that some R-44s are being rehabbed at the 207th Street Shop,which includes painting and other assorted work.Does anyone in the know which cars are being done,and how many will be restored to service??? I have long said that the R-44s should have never been retired to begin with,and this is great news indeed.I am guessing it will be the 80 cars that have been held out of service "Revenue Inactive"..."Train Dude"-Do you have a clue here??? Thanks to all who reply! |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 30 18:29:00 2012, in response to R-44s Back From The Dead???, posted by ENY Blitz 5107 on Thu Aug 30 18:17:09 2012. Nope - not a word as yet. I will look into it though. |
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Posted by Widecab5 on Thu Aug 30 18:44:55 2012, in response to R-44s Back From The Dead???, posted by ENY Blitz 5107 on Thu Aug 30 18:17:09 2012. One Museum car: 5240.O/H for posterity...?!? Regards, George Chiasson Jr. (Widecab5@aol.com) |
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Posted by ENY Blitz 5107 on Thu Aug 30 18:49:17 2012, in response to Re: R-44s Back From The Dead???, posted by Widecab5 on Thu Aug 30 18:44:55 2012. Saw a "B" Unit pic also... |
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Posted by ENY Blitz 5107 on Thu Aug 30 18:49:54 2012, in response to Re: R-44s Back From The Dead???, posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 30 18:29:00 2012. Thank You! |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Aug 30 20:12:54 2012, in response to Re: R-44s Back From The Dead???, posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 30 18:29:00 2012. If true:
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Posted by R 36 ML 9542 on Fri Aug 31 01:57:40 2012, in response to Re: R-44s Back From The Dead???, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Aug 30 20:12:54 2012. W.T.F???? |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Fri Aug 31 02:40:04 2012, in response to Re: R-44s Back From The Dead???, posted by ENY Blitz 5107 on Thu Aug 30 18:49:17 2012. I saw the pic too...the B-unit had a coupler. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Fri Aug 31 02:41:26 2012, in response to Re: R-44s Back From The Dead???, posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 30 18:29:00 2012. Thank you. I look forward to hearing something. This is an interesting development. |
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Posted by Ian Lennon on Fri Aug 31 03:27:24 2012, in response to R-44s Back From The Dead???, posted by ENY Blitz 5107 on Thu Aug 30 18:17:09 2012. Are those 80 cars cherry picked, or just random cars? |
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Posted by FarRock on Fri Aug 31 08:27:45 2012, in response to R-44s Back From The Dead???, posted by ENY Blitz 5107 on Thu Aug 30 18:17:09 2012. You sure its not the info from last year around this time? |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Fri Aug 31 08:40:05 2012, in response to R-44s Back From The Dead???, posted by ENY Blitz 5107 on Thu Aug 30 18:17:09 2012. Although I do not like R44s....all the TA folks on here say there's a car shortage. So this might be a good idea. Who knows- maybe it could free up some 60 footers for use on the Eastern Division....can anyone say J through Montague??? |
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Posted by renee gil on Fri Aug 31 08:41:55 2012, in response to Re: R-44s Back From The Dead???, posted by MainR3664 on Fri Aug 31 08:40:05 2012. The J already went through the Montague St Tube back in 2001. |
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Posted by FarRock on Fri Aug 31 09:08:03 2012, in response to Re: R-44s Back From The Dead???, posted by MainR3664 on Fri Aug 31 08:40:05 2012. Theres a few 32s laid up ENY and I still havent found out why |
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Posted by Mr. D - Type on Fri Aug 31 10:40:47 2012, in response to Re: R-44s Back From The Dead???, posted by FarRock on Fri Aug 31 09:08:03 2012. My guess is that those are the cars that were in storage @ Fresh Pond yard near Fresh Pond Bus garage. |
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Posted by FarRock on Fri Aug 31 11:41:06 2012, in response to Re: R-44s Back From The Dead???, posted by MainR3664 on Fri Aug 31 08:40:05 2012. Theres a few 32s laid up ENY and I still havent found out why |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Aug 31 12:37:55 2012, in response to Re: R-44s Back From The Dead???, posted by MainR3664 on Fri Aug 31 08:40:05 2012. Maybe they are wary of doing this massive swap every year until 2017. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Aug 31 12:39:47 2012, in response to Re: R-44s Back From The Dead???, posted by FarRock on Fri Aug 31 09:08:03 2012. Long term storage. Some of the tracks at Fresh Pond are too short to hold an entire 8-car train. Probably good places to put cars like this away. |
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Posted by CJ on Fri Aug 31 12:45:14 2012, in response to R-44s Back From The Dead???, posted by ENY Blitz 5107 on Thu Aug 30 18:17:09 2012. Thank you for the update. |
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Posted by ThrexxBus on Fri Aug 31 13:26:32 2012, in response to R-44s Back From The Dead???, posted by ENY Blitz 5107 on Thu Aug 30 18:17:09 2012. Never. Why would they go through all the trouble to retire all of them, to now bring them back? Until there is a confirmation, I will not believe this. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Aug 31 13:36:20 2012, in response to Re: R-44s Back From The Dead???, posted by ThrexxBus on Fri Aug 31 13:26:32 2012. Given how TD described what was done with them, I also doubt any are coming back. Unless the MTA has decided it's worth it to restore some instead of doing this massive upheaval every May/September. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Fri Aug 31 15:38:43 2012, in response to Re: R-44s Back From The Dead???, posted by FarRock on Fri Aug 31 09:08:03 2012. Unfortunately, unless things have changed, based on what others on here say, there doesn't appear to be any plan to use those particular cars for Eastern Division service... |
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Posted by Joe V on Fri Aug 31 18:37:23 2012, in response to Re: R-44s Back From The Dead???, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Aug 31 13:36:20 2012. As museum cars, 2 cars could run if they are in fact restoring an odd and even car, but not run in reverse, and never on a fan trip. |
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Posted by Joe V on Fri Aug 31 18:39:53 2012, in response to Re: R-44s Back From The Dead???, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Aug 31 12:39:47 2012. Why are they holding onto these 8 cars, other than to tease us ?Waiting for catastrophic failure of an R42, then the lesser of 2 evils ? |
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Posted by FarRock on Fri Aug 31 22:25:50 2012, in response to Re: R-44s Back From The Dead???, posted by Joe V on Fri Aug 31 18:39:53 2012. Word is there are 2 DEAD 42S laid up in ENY |
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Posted by R32_3671 on Fri Aug 31 23:04:28 2012, in response to Re: R-44s Back From The Dead???, posted by FarRock on Fri Aug 31 22:25:50 2012. If that is true, that R32 gotta go in service before school starts this isn't good for the TA at all, if you have dead R42's and R44's being worked on to comeback (if its true) |
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Posted by caine515 on Sat Sep 1 09:51:36 2012, in response to Re: R-44s Back From The Dead???, posted by G1Ravage on Fri Aug 31 02:40:04 2012. could these be cars for SIRT? |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Sep 1 11:18:36 2012, in response to Re: R-44s Back From The Dead???, posted by FarRock on Fri Aug 31 22:25:50 2012. Two dead cars or 2 dead 8 car trains ? |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Sep 1 11:49:35 2012, in response to Re: R-44s Back From The Dead???, posted by caine515 on Sat Sep 1 09:51:36 2012. No. Too incompatible. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Sep 1 12:25:35 2012, in response to R-44s Back From The Dead???, posted by ENY Blitz 5107 on Thu Aug 30 18:17:09 2012. Straight from the high command;NO! |
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Posted by HANDBRAKE on Sat Sep 1 13:12:23 2012, in response to Re: R-44s Back From The Dead???, posted by Widecab5 on Thu Aug 30 18:44:55 2012. One R44 A unit and one R44 B unit will be preserved for the NYTM. As far as putting any R44's back into service. I have't heard about such a move.Where is the source of the R44 Resurrection coming from? |
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Posted by HANDBRAKE on Sat Sep 1 13:18:59 2012, in response to Latest Word Re: R-44s Back From The Dead???, posted by Train Dude on Sat Sep 1 12:25:35 2012. I was up at 207th at the end of the last trip, and AFAIK, the R44 scrapping program continues as planned. I suspected typical bad Foamer rumor information, as usual, to get saliva running down the side of the face. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Sep 1 13:40:27 2012, in response to Re: R-44s Back From The Dead???, posted by R 36 ML 9542 on Fri Aug 31 01:57:40 2012. She gets very excited.
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Sep 1 13:48:23 2012, in response to Latest Word Re: R-44s Back From The Dead???, posted by Train Dude on Sat Sep 1 12:25:35 2012. 
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Posted by mcorivervsaf on Sat Sep 1 14:02:13 2012, in response to Latest Word Re: R-44s Back From The Dead???, posted by Train Dude on Sat Sep 1 12:25:35 2012. Meh. My mind was already set at them staying retired.Time to let it go. They were dead upon removal from revenue service. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Sep 1 14:06:05 2012, in response to Re: Latest Word Re: R-44s Back From The Dead???, posted by mcorivervsaf on Sat Sep 1 14:02:13 2012. I would have been surprised, myself given that the best ones were stripped of some of their new components for the R-68 GOH program. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Sep 1 16:15:58 2012, in response to Re: R-44s Back From The Dead???, posted by HANDBRAKE on Sat Sep 1 13:12:23 2012. I'd rather see 2 A-units go to NYTM. I least they can run it i both directions. What's the point of the B -unit ? |
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Posted by Dj Hammers on Sat Sep 1 16:19:38 2012, in response to Re: R-44s Back From The Dead???, posted by Joe V on Sat Sep 1 16:15:58 2012. Maybe simply so an example of both types of the NYCT R44 can be preserved.I wonder if the AB set will be able to run on fan trips.. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Sep 1 16:47:18 2012, in response to Re: R-44s Back From The Dead???, posted by Dj Hammers on Sat Sep 1 16:19:38 2012. 2 car train not good for a fan trip. It can't run into a stub terminal or change ends. There is nothing in the world that is compatible with it, except maybe haul it around by a diesel. At least an A-A unit would be operable, even if the Main Line B-unit version went extinct, except for the SI version. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Sep 1 17:54:15 2012, in response to Re: R-44s Back From The Dead???, posted by R32_3671 on Fri Aug 31 23:04:28 2012. Huh? |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Sep 2 09:18:58 2012, in response to Re: R-44s Back From The Dead???, posted by Joe V on Sat Sep 1 16:47:18 2012. A three-car train could work - 2 A cars and 1 B car. Remember, the JFK Express was a 3-car R46. |
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Posted by BLE-NIMX on Sun Sep 2 10:25:03 2012, in response to Re: R-44s Back From The Dead???, posted by Joe V on Fri Aug 31 18:37:23 2012. ANY car type can run in reverse, otherwise they can't uncouple from each other. If you are worrying about not having a cab, it can be flagged as they were when they still had couplers. Since railfans couldn't see anything through their tiny doors, I don't see them on fantrips either |
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Posted by FarRock on Sun Sep 2 10:57:34 2012, in response to Re: R-44s Back From The Dead???, posted by Joe V on Fri Aug 31 18:39:53 2012. Word is there are 2 DEAD 42S laid up in ENY |
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Posted by aem7ac on Sun Sep 2 14:16:05 2012, in response to Re: Latest Word Re: R-44s Back From The Dead???, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Sep 1 13:48:23 2012. Are you a Brony? |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Sun Sep 2 14:17:00 2012, in response to Re: Latest Word Re: R-44s Back From The Dead???, posted by Train Dude on Sat Sep 1 14:06:05 2012. Those R68 are in terrible shape. They need a major fix badly. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Sep 2 14:24:46 2012, in response to Re: Latest Word Re: R-44s Back From The Dead???, posted by ClearAspect on Sun Sep 2 14:17:00 2012. That's why they are going through SMS. When I left Concourse in June of 2005, they were running at over 400,000 MDBF. Components just get old. |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Sun Sep 2 14:48:02 2012, in response to Re: Latest Word Re: R-44s Back From The Dead???, posted by Train Dude on Sun Sep 2 14:24:46 2012. They need it desperately. They're terrible, but the R68A braking has gotten much better. I don't know what they're doing to them but they've improved vastly. The biggest problem I have on the R68 is the seals around the windows. With winter coming... oy... |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Sep 2 15:02:18 2012, in response to Re: Latest Word Re: R-44s Back From The Dead???, posted by ClearAspect on Sun Sep 2 14:48:02 2012. I don't know what Coney Island has done to the braking on the R-68As but if they followed Pitkin's and Jamaica's model on the R-46s, they've gotten rid of the NYAB electric self lapper and converted the brake valve to work with the Wabco Electric Self Lapper. That modification is a proven success on the R-46s for both brake response and service reliability.As for the R-68s when I worked up there I used to meet with the Line Supt. almost every morning and I would try to get direct feedback from him, the TSSs and the crews. If I knew about a problem, I'd bring it to the monthly SMS meetings so engineering could look into it and perhaps include it in the next SMS. I think most shops would welcome the direct feedback. |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Sun Sep 2 15:37:25 2012, in response to Re: Latest Word Re: R-44s Back From The Dead???, posted by Train Dude on Sun Sep 2 15:02:18 2012. I could give you the laundry list of things I'd like to see done. If I knew the barn superintendent but if I'm the only one saying something... you see where I'm coming from. I've asked for weather stripping, and coat hooks for the winter on the R68. Keeping my fingers crossed. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Sep 2 15:45:04 2012, in response to Re: Latest Word Re: R-44s Back From The Dead???, posted by ClearAspect on Sun Sep 2 15:37:25 2012. There is another person who posts here who was a T/O on the A train. He'd virtually call me every day with a complaint. Some were frivolous but others were looked into and some issues were found and addressed. Next time you are in the Bronx, go in and introduce yourself. He's not a bad guy to talk to. |
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