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Re: LIRR Fare Ripoff Hoax...

Posted by TERRapin station on Tue Aug 21 18:17:20 2012, in response to Re: LIRR Fare Ripoff Hoax..., posted by Train Dude on Tue Aug 21 18:06:44 2012.

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It is an overpayment in the terms I described.

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Re: LIRR Fare Ripoff Hoax...

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Aug 21 18:47:06 2012, in response to Re: LIRR Fare Ripoff Hoax..., posted by TERRapin station on Tue Aug 21 18:17:20 2012.

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It's not an overpayment if the C/R charges the prescribed fare as stated on the fare card. By definition, the legitimate fare cannot be an overpayment.

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Re: LIRR Fare Ripoff Hoax...

Posted by aaron on Tue Aug 21 20:10:20 2012, in response to Re: LIRR Fare Ripoff Hoax..., posted by Train Dude on Tue Aug 21 18:06:44 2012.

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I think this was put in place at the last fare increase. With regard to coins, if I gave the conductor 8 quarters for the $2 fare, he would have had to take it.

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Re: LIRR Fare Ripoff Hoax...

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Aug 21 21:03:16 2012, in response to Re: LIRR Fare Ripoff Hoax..., posted by aaron on Tue Aug 21 20:10:20 2012.

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And? I don't think there is anyone who would disagree. Is there another point you wanted to make?

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Re: LIRR Fare Ripoff Hoax...

Posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Aug 21 22:41:03 2012, in response to Re: LIRR Fare Ripoff Hoax..., posted by aaron on Tue Aug 21 20:10:20 2012.

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Actually according to federal law, he does NOT have to accept it.
US Currency is legal tender for all debts public and private, but the entity receiving the payment can decline that currency that they do not like.

ROAR

http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/faqs/currency/pages/legal-tender.aspx

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Re: LIRR Fare Ripoff Hoax...

Posted by TERRapin station on Wed Aug 22 07:58:33 2012, in response to Re: LIRR Fare Ripoff Hoax..., posted by Train Dude on Tue Aug 21 18:47:06 2012.

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No, it is like I said.

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Re: LIRR Fare Ripoff Hoax...

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Aug 22 08:38:46 2012, in response to Re: LIRR Fare Ripoff Hoax..., posted by Train Dude on Tue Aug 21 18:10:57 2012.

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In other words some folk just dont any kind of humor since they are so miserable?

Thats the moral?

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JUDGE LION: LIRR Fare Ripoff Hoax...

Posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Aug 22 10:39:48 2012, in response to Re: LIRR Fare Ripoff Hoax..., posted by TERRapin station on Wed Aug 22 07:58:33 2012.

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Judge LION rules in favor of Train Dude. The fare is what the railroad says it is.

Turtle will pay damages and court costs.



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Re: JUDGE LION: LIRR Fare Ripoff Hoax...

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 22 11:37:04 2012, in response to JUDGE LION: LIRR Fare Ripoff Hoax..., posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Aug 22 10:39:48 2012.

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Objection, your honor! There's supposed to be a homily before banging the gavel ... something about legs and rain. :)

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Re: LIRR Fare Ripoff Hoax...

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Aug 22 13:37:06 2012, in response to Re: LIRR Fare Ripoff Hoax..., posted by TERRapin station on Wed Aug 22 07:58:33 2012.

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No - it's like I said. The LIRR sets the fare. If the conductor is charging what the LIRR says is the correct fare then he can't be overcharging. This is a no word humping zone - move out

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Re: LIRR Fare Ripoff Hoax...

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Aug 22 13:38:33 2012, in response to Re: LIRR Fare Ripoff Hoax..., posted by Railman718 on Wed Aug 22 08:38:46 2012.

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No! Moral of the story is sometimes when you pet a presumably friendly cat, they can turn around and attack .

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Re: LIRR Fare Ripoff Hoax...

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Aug 22 13:46:37 2012, in response to Re: LIRR Fare Ripoff Hoax..., posted by Train Dude on Wed Aug 22 13:37:06 2012.

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No. Context. Context. Context. the people who are being forced to overpay when they shouldn't have to?

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Re: LIRR Fare Ripoff Hoax...

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Aug 22 14:07:26 2012, in response to Re: LIRR Fare Ripoff Hoax..., posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Aug 22 13:46:37 2012.

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They are paying the correct fare according the LIRR, therefore they are not being overcharged. As I said, the practice of rounding off fares to the nearest dollar has been in practice for years when purchasing an on-board ticket. Hence you are incorrect. You do not set fare policy. The LIRR sets them with the approval of the MTA.

THIS IS A NO WORD-HUMPING ZONE






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Re: LIRR Fare Ripoff Hoax...

Posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Aug 22 14:30:40 2012, in response to Re: LIRR Fare Ripoff Hoax..., posted by Train Dude on Wed Aug 22 13:38:33 2012.

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Wanna play with my cat...


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Re: LIRR Fare Ripoff Hoax...

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Aug 22 14:40:32 2012, in response to Re: LIRR Fare Ripoff Hoax..., posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Aug 22 14:30:40 2012.

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Big cats are dangerous but a little _______________ never mind!

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Re: LIRR Fare Ripoff Hoax...

Posted by TERRapin station on Wed Aug 22 16:49:03 2012, in response to Re: LIRR Fare Ripoff Hoax..., posted by Train Dude on Wed Aug 22 14:07:26 2012.

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Nope. You're ignoring what I've been writing all along.

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Re: LIRR Fare Ripoff Hoax...

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Aug 22 17:25:21 2012, in response to Re: LIRR Fare Ripoff Hoax..., posted by TERRapin station on Wed Aug 22 16:49:03 2012.

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Because what you have been writing all along is wrong. You are wrong. You do not set the fare policy for the LIRR. The LIRR sets it with the consent of the MTA. If the MTA and the LIRR deem the on board Step-up fare to be the difference between the old fare and the new fare rounded off to the nearest dollar amount, then that's the correct fare. If the conductor collects that fare, then by definition, the customer is paying the correct fare and is not being over-charged. It is what it is. Get over it.

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Re: LIRR Fare Ripoff Hoax...

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Aug 22 21:55:28 2012, in response to Re: LIRR Fare Ripoff Hoax..., posted by Train Dude on Wed Aug 22 17:25:21 2012.

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You must have been bored to even enterian this...

Look for more of the same over Fruit Loops on Thursday...

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Re: LIRR Fare Ripoff Hoax...

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Aug 22 23:10:27 2012, in response to Re: LIRR Fare Ripoff Hoax..., posted by Railman718 on Wed Aug 22 21:55:28 2012.

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He can kick and stomp and whine all morning. He is not right and no amount of huffing & puffing or word-humping is going to change things.

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Re: LIRR Fare Ripoff Hoax...

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Aug 22 23:17:29 2012, in response to Re: LIRR Fare Ripoff Hoax..., posted by Train Dude on Wed Aug 22 23:10:27 2012.

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Wouldn't Surprise me one bit...

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Re: LIRR Fare Ripoff Hoax...

Posted by Avid Reader on Thu Aug 23 08:33:56 2012, in response to Re: LIRR Fare Ripoff Hoax..., posted by Train Dude on Wed Aug 22 17:25:21 2012.

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Just to be correct, I think it is rounded off UPWARD to the nearest dollar.
To round off to the NEAREST dollar, from $1.25, would be $1.00.


I'm just sayin'

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Re: LIRR Fare Ripoff Hoax...

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 23 16:17:05 2012, in response to Re: LIRR Fare Ripoff Hoax..., posted by Avid Reader on Thu Aug 23 08:33:56 2012.

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That's fine. Again, if that is the fare policy then as long as the conductors are charging that fare, then they are not over-charging customers.

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Re: LIRR Fare Ripoff Hoax...

Posted by Avid Reader on Fri Aug 24 12:07:15 2012, in response to Re: LIRR Fare Ripoff Hoax..., posted by Avid Reader on Thu Aug 23 08:33:56 2012.

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One would think, that to round to the nearest Dollar would be more equitable, and eventual even out, but upward, is more profitable, and leaves a longer lasting message.

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Re: LIRR Fare Ripoff Hoax...

Posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Aug 24 12:43:13 2012, in response to Re: LIRR Fare Ripoff Hoax..., posted by Avid Reader on Fri Aug 24 12:07:15 2012.

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Feh... The system needs the money.


ROAR

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Re: LIRR Fare Ripoff Hoax...

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Aug 24 16:27:47 2012, in response to Re: LIRR Fare Ripoff Hoax..., posted by Avid Reader on Fri Aug 24 12:07:15 2012.

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I agree but it is also consistent with the "on-board fare" policy! There the also seem to add the on-board fee to the ticket and then round off to the next highest dollar amount. It may be inequitable but as long as the customers are being charged what's on the fare card, they are not being "over-charged".

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Re: LIRR Fare Ripoff Hoax...

Posted by Avid Reader on Fri Aug 24 19:56:37 2012, in response to Re: LIRR Fare Ripoff Hoax..., posted by Train Dude on Fri Aug 24 16:27:47 2012.

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Agreed!

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