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Re: TTMG (TransiTALK) MEGA EXCLUSIVE: First Look @ Kawasaki R-160 Subway Car |
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Posted by Pelham Bay Dave on Sat Jul 23 08:24:58 2005, in response to Re: TTMG (TransiTALK) MEGA EXCLUSIVE: First Look @ Kawasaki R-160 Subway Car, posted by Railman718 on Thu Jul 21 08:18:49 2005. Wow! I get to operate High Tech trains in the B Div shortly how sweet it is!!!B Div starting to look more Like A Div by the day. |
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Posted by North-Easten T/O on Sat Jul 23 09:41:52 2005, in response to Re: TTMG (TransiTALK) MEGA EXCLUSIVE: First Look @ Kawasaki R-160 Subway Car, posted by Pelham Bay Dave on Sat Jul 23 08:24:58 2005. Well sdit and stay awaile. The B Div. will grow on you.Robert |
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Re: TTMG (TransiTALK) MEGA EXCLUSIVE: First Look @ Kawasaki R-160 Subway Car |
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Posted by vengence on Sat Jul 23 09:58:44 2005, in response to Re: TTMG (TransiTALK) MEGA EXCLUSIVE: First Look @ Kawasaki R-160 Subway Car, posted by North-Easten T/O on Sat Jul 23 09:41:52 2005. WOW...I've been away for a while..for medical reasons...and missed ALL the good stuff happening! So..my new cars are finally here! And they look just like the 143's[no real surprise there....they did say they wanted them to be able to run together.] Looks like you guys are to be going thru some more training I suppose,if you haven't already... By the way..did they get anymore in as of yet? In any case..I knew Alstom would be late...they had so much on their plate already....besides taking on such a large contract for the MTA. Now with the CIP approved...and MORE cars coming...I wonder how Kawasaki and Alstom work this out between them? I guess all the orders coming in the second batch will be 5 car sets,as the Eastern Division won't need any more outside of the 340 they'll be receiving. 552 cars should be more than enough for J/M/L and Z lines I guess. Thanks people..for the update...and a special thanks to Trevor for the Photo. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 23 11:38:40 2005, in response to More R160'sTo Arrive, posted by MuseumTrain Restorer on Thu Jul 21 16:28:03 2005. What, no respect for their elders? These R160's are brats. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 23 11:39:54 2005, in response to Re: More R160's To Arrive, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Fri Jul 22 00:11:41 2005. This is no cause for celebration. |
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Posted by ALSTOM R160A on Sat Jul 23 11:41:02 2005, in response to Re: More R160's To Arrive, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 23 11:39:54 2005. Why not? Can't keep up with new technology? |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 23 11:43:02 2005, in response to Re: More R160's To Arrive, posted by R30A on Fri Jul 22 22:27:02 2005. Maybe the folks at 207th are just better. Besides, I'm referencing structure, not performance. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 23 11:51:44 2005, in response to Re: More R160's To Arrive, posted by ALSTOM R160A on Sat Jul 23 11:41:02 2005. Practically, I understand why new cars must be purchased. It still sucks rocks. |
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Posted by vengence on Sat Jul 23 11:52:22 2005, in response to Re: More R160's To Arrive, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Fri Jul 22 13:55:45 2005. Im not too sure about that...even after GOH...they were still subject to more problems than they had when the were new.... The electrical problems...leaks...brakes...all just the tip of the iceburg... Today..I must say..the 38's are far better cars than they were after GOH..ALMOST 10 YEARS LATER...regardless of the continuous leak problem. It's all good,in any case. I like the 38's..and wish they were going to hang around[like the 42's]..but we all know thats wishfull thinking... |
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Posted by Railman718 on Sat Jul 23 11:59:16 2005, in response to Re: More R160's To Arrive, posted by vengence on Sat Jul 23 11:52:22 2005. From a T/O's perspective a trains a train as long as it stops at the right car marker, doors open and close and i get indication. If i get a decent trip cant complain. Passengers may be on it for a while but thats my baby for the whole trip,and i may get turned on that trip as well. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 23 12:02:14 2005, in response to Re: More R160's To Arrive, posted by vengence on Sat Jul 23 11:52:22 2005. It's been almost 20 years, since the R38 was the first car to go through the major GOH program which the R32, R40 and R42 did in late 1986/early 1987. GOH was meant to extend the useful life of a car for 20 more years, and the R38's are reaching that point right now. |
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Posted by vengence on Sat Jul 23 12:07:30 2005, in response to Re: More R160's To Arrive, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 23 12:02:14 2005. My bad,dude...It has been almost 20 years... [been out of the loop for a while now dude..and playing catch up!LOL..] |
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Re: More R160's To Arrive and Our beloved 38/40/42's are history.... |
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Posted by vengence on Sat Jul 23 12:15:48 2005, in response to Re: More R160's To Arrive, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 23 11:39:54 2005. True...with the first of these NEW TECH TRAINS arriving...the clock is now running on our favorites subway cars...and the much loved "railfan window"...Hey..everybody loves new cars..[I know I do],but the older cars are what we identify with,after riding them nearly half or ALL of our lives... As much as we bashed the REDBIRD LOVERS over on the IRT while they were being replaced by the 142...we Silver bird lovers will be going thur the very same thing in the coming years.... Oh well...time marches on,I suppose. |
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Re: More R160's To Arrive and Our beloved 38/40/42's are history.... |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 23 12:19:47 2005, in response to Re: More R160's To Arrive and Our beloved 38/40/42's are history...., posted by vengence on Sat Jul 23 12:15:48 2005. I'm no A division fan, so the redbird massacre was not as painful as this upcomming mass extinction will be on the B division. My youth, my very image of what a subway is will have been shattered come 2010. *sigh* |
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Posted by vengence on Sat Jul 23 12:28:53 2005, in response to Re: More R160's To Arrive and Our beloved 38/40/42's are history...., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 23 12:19:47 2005. Yep..my feelings exactly.....You couldn't have said it any better. My youth..we had the R1/9,27/30 on the Eastern Division...R10's on the A/CC ..32's on the B/D/N...38's on the E/F/GG...AND N... 42 all over the place...40/40'm on the E/F....16's on the EE... 44'S on the A/D/E/F....and 46's on the E/F/N/GG... Wow....all that gonna be left out of that is the 46! |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Jul 23 12:44:24 2005, in response to Re: More R160's To Arrive, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 23 11:39:54 2005. That's what oldtimers said when the R27/30/32 replaced the Standards and D Types1 |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 23 12:44:50 2005, in response to Re: More R160's To Arrive and Our beloved 38/40/42's are history...., posted by vengence on Sat Jul 23 12:28:53 2005. Yes, the R46 and 68's will at least keep some semblance of normality for another 2 decades. Once they're gone, I move to Montana :( I'll probably miss the slants the most. Their distinct look fascinated me as a kid, watching them run on the A line above Liberty Ave. An R42 on the J always excited me, since they were rare sights on the J before 1986. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 23 12:46:10 2005, in response to Re: More R160's To Arrive, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Jul 23 12:44:24 2005. Yup, I made that observation a few months ago. Soon, I'll be an "old-timer"! Yuck! |
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Re: TTMG (TransiTALK) MEGA EXCLUSIVE: First Look @ Kawasaki R-160 Subway Car |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Jul 23 12:50:50 2005, in response to Re: TTMG (TransiTALK) MEGA EXCLUSIVE: First Look @ Kawasaki R-160 Subway Car, posted by tydev417 on Thu Jul 21 09:44:39 2005. This is how rumors start. There has been no internal TA talk, to my knowlege, of replacing SI R44's. Don't compare them to the NYCT ones. They are different mechanically and have no where near the lifetime high mileage. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Jul 23 12:56:24 2005, in response to Re: TTMG (TransiTALK) MEGA EXCLUSIVE: First Look @ Kawasaki R-160 Subway Car, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Jul 21 10:56:33 2005. It is not nonsense, it is true. Supposedly they went to the double leaf storm door because a L line rider had a serious finger injury. Remember: safety for the riders should be the #1 priority in new car purchases. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Jul 23 13:01:10 2005, in response to Re: More R160's To Arrive, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 23 12:46:10 2005. I'm an old timer right now. I'm really not interested in learning how to operate this new stuff after 25 years, but will have to. My grandfather used to say: "You can't teach and old dog new tricks". |
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Posted by MJF on Sat Jul 23 13:05:40 2005, in response to Re: More R160's To Arrive, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Jul 23 13:01:10 2005. Well Bill, us old dogs are gonna have to learn 'em! |
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Posted by Motor Coach Industries on Sat Jul 23 13:11:40 2005, in response to Re: More R160's To Arrive and Our beloved 38/40/42's are history...., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 23 12:19:47 2005. Time to get that camera charged up. |
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Posted by Motor Coach Industries on Sat Jul 23 13:14:12 2005, in response to Re: TTMG (TransiTALK) MEGA EXCLUSIVE: First Look @ Kawasaki R-160 Subway Car, posted by tydev417 on Thu Jul 21 09:44:39 2005. They should rehab the R44s again or just get R68/As. |
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Posted by AcelaExpress2005 - R160 on Sat Jul 23 13:38:21 2005, in response to Re: More R160's To Arrive, posted by Atlantic Av El? on Fri Jul 22 13:23:36 2005. You bought the R38's? |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 23 13:42:58 2005, in response to Re: More R160's To Arrive and Our beloved 38/40/42's are history...., posted by Motor Coach Industries on Sat Jul 23 13:11:40 2005. Yup. I lost hundreds of pictures and I need to replace them. |
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Posted by AcelaExpress2005 - R160 on Sat Jul 23 13:44:29 2005, in response to Re: More R160's To Arrive, posted by Atlantic Av El? on Fri Jul 22 14:07:36 2005. And they have the coldest A/Cs in the entire system too!!Stop the presses; that's bullshit! I've been riding the R38's for years now on the A/C lines, and I'd have to say the R32 outweighs the R38's in Cooling performance. Yes, they do have "good" cooling systems, but that's where it ends. To me, I'd say the R32 and the R42's have the top-of-the-line performance for car cooling systems. I suppose the new tech trains can come in afterwards. And, one more note -- as much as I like the R44's, they have the worse A/C system in the entire fleet. For the last few summers, you can feel air, but it's not cool air .. it's rather garbage. Even last Monday, when temperature was 90+ degrees, and the humidity was unbearable, I boarded an R44 at Rockaway Blvd. (Manhattan-bound), and I was "hoping" to gain some relief from the A/C, but, unfortunately .. I was there hot as fuck for another couple of stops (I'd say, I was finally cooling down by the time we entered Broadway Junction). Blah! |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 23 13:49:19 2005, in response to Re: More R160's To Arrive, posted by vengence on Sat Jul 23 12:07:30 2005. Still can't forget the first time I spotted a GOH R38 set (at Broadway Nassau in spring 1987). They were practically new cars, inside and out. Coincidentally, the next day Jim Dwyer wrote of mechanical problems the new cars were having in his old "In The Subways" column in the Newsday. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Sat Jul 23 14:02:58 2005, in response to Re: More R160's To Arrive, posted by AcelaExpress2005 - R160 on Sat Jul 23 13:44:29 2005. I think the R142's(the bombs) have better cooling than ANY train in the A Div.The R62's on the Lenox,Broadway and the few left on the 4 line sometimes have hot cars or just blow out air,and im not even going to go on how those cabs can be like,i cant comment on the 7 line trains beacuse i have rarely worked over there.The R142A's (which i work with on Thur and Fridays) have crappy cooling. Sometimes if it gets too humid outside it feels just as sticky sometimes in the car.Even though the bombs have other issues cooling in my opinoin isnt one of them.Of coruse dont get in a car that the HVAC is jacked up then forget it. |
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Re: TTMG (TransiTALK) MEGA EXCLUSIVE: First Look @ Kawasaki R-160 Subway Car |
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Posted by Parkchester (East 177th St) on Sat Jul 23 15:25:17 2005, in response to Re: TTMG (TransiTALK) MEGA EXCLUSIVE: First Look @ Kawasaki R-160 Subway Car, posted by tydev417 on Thu Jul 21 09:44:39 2005. For that to happen, the R46s would have to be modified to FRA standards since the tracks that the R44SIRs run on are (to my most recent knowledge) freight tracks, and not subway tracks per se. The costs inherent in that vis-a-vis the MTAs current financial position preclude that possibility pretty much. |
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Posted by R30A on Sat Jul 23 16:23:03 2005, in response to Re: TTMG (TransiTALK) MEGA EXCLUSIVE: First Look @ Kawasaki R-160 Subway Car, posted by vengence on Sat Jul 23 09:58:44 2005. If the second batch ever comes...The capital plan has been shelved for now... |
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Posted by R30A on Sat Jul 23 16:24:58 2005, in response to Re: More R160's To Arrive, posted by Railman718 on Sat Jul 23 14:02:58 2005. The Whole A div sucks AC wise.The best (and only decent A/C) in the A div is on the 3 lines R62s. |
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Posted by R30A on Sat Jul 23 16:26:59 2005, in response to Re: TTMG (TransiTALK) MEGA EXCLUSIVE: First Look @ Kawasaki R-160 Subway Car, posted by monorail on Fri Jul 22 13:40:20 2005. run them anywayitll give them the needed punishment :-P |
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Posted by Railman718 on Sat Jul 23 16:39:11 2005, in response to Re: More R160's To Arrive, posted by R30A on Sat Jul 23 16:24:58 2005. Coming from a T/O persecptive i really beg to differ sorry.I KNOW when im working on a Bomb 99% of the time i got great AC in my cab was well as the train.Thats your opinoin on those R62's and this is mines.IF you ever operated a R62 that either the vent is stuck,or dirty(and before you get to Chambers Street you are coughing a nice dry cough) for that matter you whould see my point.This is just my opinion. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Jul 23 16:43:55 2005, in response to Re: More R160's To Arrive, posted by AcelaExpress2005 - R160 on Sat Jul 23 13:44:29 2005. I worked the C line for the last 2 summers (not this year tho). I can assure you the R38's have better a/c compared to the R32's. As far as hot cars are concerned, I found many more hot cars on R32's than R38's by far. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Jul 23 16:47:51 2005, in response to Re: More R160's To Arrive, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 23 13:49:19 2005. The first GOH R38 I rode I hit my head on the low hanging standee pole above the end seats. That knocked some sense into my head! The mechanical problem you spoke about was a battery (drainage) problem which was temporarily rectified by cutting out 2 circuit breakers in effect making the cars semi-dark. That condition was repaired soon thereafter by the vendor. |
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Posted by monorail on Sat Jul 23 18:05:12 2005, in response to Re: More R160's To Arrive, posted by Railman718 on Sat Jul 23 16:39:11 2005. I do appreciate kawasaki a/c better than bombardier a/c in the 142 class |
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Posted by ALSTOM R160A on Sat Jul 23 18:11:47 2005, in response to Re: More R160's To Arrive, posted by monorail on Sat Jul 23 18:05:12 2005. I would have to agree. And the HVAC sound on the BBD R142 hurts my ears. |
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Posted by EMSR7000 on Sat Jul 23 19:24:56 2005, in response to Re: More R160's To Arrive, posted by monorail on Sat Jul 23 18:05:12 2005. The carbuilders buy this stuff from vendors. Who are the A/C manufacturers for each class? The carbuilders build the ductwork and install the ceiling diffusers. Maybe Peter CI can fill us in. |
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Re: TTMG (TransiTALK) MEGA EXCLUSIVE: First Look @ Kawasaki R-160 Subway Car |
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Posted by Pelham Bay Dave on Sat Jul 23 20:45:00 2005, in response to Re: TTMG (TransiTALK) MEGA EXCLUSIVE: First Look @ Kawasaki R-160 Subway Car, posted by North-Easten T/O on Sat Jul 23 09:41:52 2005. Don't worry I'm going to stay a T/O and It looks like I will be in the B Div for the next 3 years like it or not. I just make the best out of it. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 23 20:49:42 2005, in response to Re: TTMG (TransiTALK) MEGA EXCLUSIVE: First Look @ Kawasaki R-160 Subway Car, posted by Pelham Bay Dave on Sat Jul 23 20:45:00 2005. Suck it up and stop being such a ... woman. :)B Division has a LOT more toys, a lot more variety, and when you get sick of scraping the wall, there's plenty of OTHER walls to scrape that are different. :) |
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Re: More R160's To Arrive and Our beloved 38/40/42's are history.... |
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Posted by Broadway Junction on Sat Jul 23 21:12:19 2005, in response to Re: More R160's To Arrive and Our beloved 38/40/42's are history...., posted by Motor Coach Industries on Sat Jul 23 13:11:40 2005. Hell yeah!I gotta hit up the A and C lines, my R38 roster is seriously lacking. I only have 7 out of 200 cars covered. Hell, all my rosters are pretty shabby - I only have 20/600 R32s, and 16 out of 400 R40s. I also only have 83 out of 400 R42s. I gotta get crackin'... |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Jul 23 21:28:40 2005, in response to Re: More R160's To Arrive and Our beloved 38/40/42's are history...., posted by Broadway Junction on Sat Jul 23 21:12:19 2005. Don't look for 3990/91 and 4000/01 because they are long gone. In addition, 4088/89 have been out of service for eons. They are on one of the barn tracks seemingly being worked on "forever". They do have the new south destination signs installed tho. On both cars, up to the time I last saw them 2 months ago, the #2 ends have shop trucks with regular trucks on the #1 end. |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Sat Jul 23 21:32:06 2005, in response to Re: More R160's To Arrive, posted by R30A on Sat Jul 23 16:24:58 2005. Has something dreadful happened to the R-62A's on the 1 in the past two weeks? |
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Posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Sat Jul 23 21:36:17 2005, in response to Re: More R160's To Arrive, posted by David of Broadway on Sat Jul 23 21:32:06 2005. Only the fact that the cops are now searching their passengers' bags before embarking, and that's only dreadful to some folks. |
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Re: TTMG (TransiTALK) MEGA EXCLUSIVE: First Look @ Kawasaki R-160 Subway Car |
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Posted by vengence on Sat Jul 23 21:41:04 2005, in response to Re: TTMG (TransiTALK) MEGA EXCLUSIVE: First Look @ Kawasaki R-160 Subway Car, posted by R30A on Sat Jul 23 16:23:03 2005. Yeah..Bruno has some fly up his butt right now...wanting that mall built so bad at our expense.This is a real problem for me..that three men should have so much control over what happens here in the CITY..while NEVER stepping foot on our subways,buses and commuter rails... This is a real problem for me...due to the fact of HOW MUCH the plunder our coffers time after time..and how we have to damn near brake an arm to get something[even a little bit]back... As I remember it ..it was Bruno who wrecked the Albany rail projects...it was Bruno who forced Amtrak into its new rail station that it didn't need... Hummm..Maybe we should start thinking of someone to get ride of those Repukes before they run us even futher into the dirt. |
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Posted by vengence on Sat Jul 23 21:54:21 2005, in response to Re: More R160's To Arrive, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Jul 23 16:47:51 2005. G.E did a crappy job on the 38's that the TA had to fix over the years.Don't know how they managed to get the contract in the first place. M.K did a much better job with the the 32/42/44 and 46 cars. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 23 22:04:29 2005, in response to Re: TTMG (TransiTALK) MEGA EXCLUSIVE: First Look @ Kawasaki R-160 Subway Car, posted by vengence on Sat Jul 23 21:41:04 2005. Bruno HAS at least empaneled a commission to look into high speed rail along the Hudson line again and the head of that panel is a close friend of mine with a very long history of GOOD service to the people of the state. So credit where credit is due on *ONE* aspect of Bruno though nobody knows where it's going to end up in September or so when the commission reports back to the state senate.But OTHERWISE ... yeah ... like you said. :( |
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Re: TTMG (TransiTALK) MEGA EXCLUSIVE: First Look @ Kawasaki R-160 Subway Car |
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Posted by vengence on Sat Jul 23 22:13:21 2005, in response to Re: TTMG (TransiTALK) MEGA EXCLUSIVE: First Look @ Kawasaki R-160 Subway Car, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 23 22:04:29 2005. Hey Kirk...hows it going...Well..take a look along Route 55[Central avenue/State street]..... You'll see what was SUPPOSE to be a lightrail line being turned into a BRT line.... Whats wrong with this picture? The new commuter line to Troy and beyond... What happened to it? Bruno did. You remember my personal run in with him at Russell Sage,don't you...? From that moment..my "opinion" of him hasn't changed on bit. And he hasn't proven me wrong,either. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Jul 23 22:14:21 2005, in response to Re: TTMG (TransiTALK) MEGA EXCLUSIVE: First Look @ Kawasaki R-160 Subway Car, posted by vengence on Sat Jul 23 09:58:44 2005. So..my new cars are finally here!They are not yours. And they look just like the 143's[no real surprise there....they did say they wanted them to be able to run together.] They don't need to look the same to run together... |
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