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Poll - Who should win the R211 contract? |
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Posted by Pink Jazz on Thu Jun 7 18:24:20 2012 Now that Bombardier has won the R179 contract, who do you think should win the R211 contract?Here is a partial list of manufacturers: •Bombardier Transportation •Kawasaki •Alstom •Siemens •Nippon Sharyo •Kinki Sharyo •Construcciones y Auxiliar de Ferrocarriles (CAF) •AnsaldoBreda •Škoda Transportation While I'm quite happy that Bombardier won the R179 contract, I personally would like to see Siemens win the R211 contract, although it is higly unlikely due to them not having manufacturing facilites in New York. One manufacturer that DOES have manufacturing facilities in New York would be CAF, and it would be interesting if they built cars for the NYC Subway. Still, I'd expect it to be Kawasaki, Bombardier, or Alstom. |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Jun 7 18:46:31 2012, in response to Poll - Who should win the R211 contract?, posted by Pink Jazz on Thu Jun 7 18:24:20 2012. Kawasaki |
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Posted by Pink Jazz on Thu Jun 7 18:49:54 2012, in response to Re: Poll - Who should win the R211 contract?, posted by Joe V on Thu Jun 7 18:46:31 2012. I'm glad Kawasaki didn't get the R179 order, considering they got their fair share of orders. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Thu Jun 7 20:24:54 2012, in response to Poll - Who should win the R211 contract?, posted by Pink Jazz on Thu Jun 7 18:24:20 2012. Pressed SteelROAR |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jun 7 20:32:43 2012, in response to Re: Poll - Who should win the R211 contract?, posted by Broadway Lion on Thu Jun 7 20:24:54 2012. Aw man ... they should give it to Birney ... they ain't had a contract with NYCT in ages! :) |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Jun 7 20:45:00 2012, in response to Poll - Who should win the R211 contract?, posted by Pink Jazz on Thu Jun 7 18:24:20 2012. Siemens.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by WillD on Thu Jun 7 21:06:56 2012, in response to Poll - Who should win the R211 contract?, posted by Pink Jazz on Thu Jun 7 18:24:20 2012. Gomaco |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Thu Jun 7 21:37:45 2012, in response to Poll - Who should win the R211 contract?, posted by Pink Jazz on Thu Jun 7 18:24:20 2012. Whoever makes it, Siemens propulsion plz.... even if the cars will all look the same at least make them sound different... |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Thu Jun 7 21:50:33 2012, in response to Poll - Who should win the R211 contract?, posted by Pink Jazz on Thu Jun 7 18:24:20 2012. Not one of them is American! |
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Posted by CJ on Thu Jun 7 22:20:41 2012, in response to Re: Poll - Who should win the R211 contract?, posted by Broadway Lion on Thu Jun 7 20:24:54 2012. Jewett or Niles. :P |
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Posted by CJ on Thu Jun 7 22:24:29 2012, in response to Poll - Who should win the R211 contract?, posted by Pink Jazz on Thu Jun 7 18:24:20 2012. Bombardier. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Fri Jun 8 02:59:00 2012, in response to Poll - Who should win the R211 contract?, posted by Pink Jazz on Thu Jun 7 18:24:20 2012. Ford. |
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Posted by CJ on Fri Jun 8 03:04:52 2012, in response to Re: Poll - Who should win the R211 contract?, posted by G1Ravage on Fri Jun 8 02:59:00 2012. LOL |
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Posted by chud1 on Fri Jun 8 04:34:01 2012, in response to Poll - Who should win the R211 contract?, posted by Pink Jazz on Thu Jun 7 18:24:20 2012. Kawasaki or alstom.chud1 |
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Posted by merrick1 on Fri Jun 8 07:51:59 2012, in response to Poll - Who should win the R211 contract?, posted by Pink Jazz on Thu Jun 7 18:24:20 2012. Perley A Thomas, the Saint Charles street cars in New Orleans are still going strong. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Fri Jun 8 08:23:15 2012, in response to Poll - Who should win the R211 contract?, posted by Pink Jazz on Thu Jun 7 18:24:20 2012. Hyundai, maybe they can make a subway version of the Rotem LOLOr... 
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Posted by William A. Padron on Fri Jun 8 08:30:58 2012, in response to Re: Poll - Who should win the R211 contract?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jun 7 20:32:43 2012. American Car & Foundry would be nice too, but...-William A. Padron ["Berwick, Pa."] |
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Posted by Mr. D - Type on Fri Jun 8 08:54:19 2012, in response to Re: Poll - Who should win the R211 contract?, posted by William A. Padron on Fri Jun 8 08:30:58 2012. I agree with you, Mr. R-10 |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Fri Jun 8 08:59:30 2012, in response to Poll - Who should win the R211 contract?, posted by Pink Jazz on Thu Jun 7 18:24:20 2012. LIONEL AND/OR MTH |
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Posted by GIS Man on Fri Jun 8 09:47:47 2012, in response to Re: Poll - Who should win the R211 contract?, posted by G1Ravage on Fri Jun 8 02:59:00 2012. Don't forget - FORD = Fix Or Repair DailyPaint one of them yellow - with the inscription "THIS SUBWAY CAR IS A LEMON!" LOL Bob |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Fri Jun 8 10:14:14 2012, in response to Poll - Who should win the R211 contract?, posted by Pink Jazz on Thu Jun 7 18:24:20 2012. Budd! |
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Posted by Mr. D - Type on Fri Jun 8 10:14:36 2012, in response to Re: Poll - Who should win the R211 contract?, posted by GIS Man on Fri Jun 8 09:47:47 2012. I totally disagree with you on that one GIS Man. FORD = Fabulous Outstanding Reputable Dependability. |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Fri Jun 8 10:18:33 2012, in response to Re: Poll - Who should win the R211 contract?, posted by GIS Man on Fri Jun 8 09:47:47 2012. Just like FIAT (a.k.a. Fix it Again Tony) |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Jun 8 10:55:56 2012, in response to Poll - Who should win the R211 contract?, posted by Pink Jazz on Thu Jun 7 18:24:20 2012. "While I'm quite happy that Bombardier won the R179 contract,"Would you care to share your reasons for being happy about this decision? |
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Posted by Pink Jazz on Fri Jun 8 11:12:29 2012, in response to Re: Poll - Who should win the R211 contract?, posted by Train Dude on Fri Jun 8 10:55:56 2012. I just got tired of Kawasaki winning so many NYCT contracts, that I felt it was Bombardier's turn. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Jun 8 11:28:39 2012, in response to Re: Poll - Who should win the R211 contract?, posted by Pink Jazz on Fri Jun 8 11:12:29 2012. Oh, okay. Now that makes sense. Without giving my own opinion as to who does or not build the best quality cars at the most competitive price, I think fair is good. |
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Posted by Pink Jazz on Fri Jun 8 11:40:28 2012, in response to Re: Poll - Who should win the R211 contract?, posted by Train Dude on Fri Jun 8 11:28:39 2012. The MTA should avoid AnsaldoBreda, since AnsaldoBreda has basically had quality issues in almost every order in recent years. |
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Posted by GIS Man on Fri Jun 8 12:09:19 2012, in response to Re: Poll - Who should win the R211 contract?, posted by Mr. D - Type on Fri Jun 8 10:14:36 2012. They may well have improved in recent years (I haven't "driven a Ford lately"), but go back about 30 years or so. All of the Big Three needed to create better cars in order to survive the onslaught of German, Japanese and Korean cars over the years.Bob |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Jun 8 14:02:04 2012, in response to Re: Poll - Who should win the R211 contract?, posted by Mr. D - Type on Fri Jun 8 10:14:36 2012. Fix Or Repair Daily or Found On Road Dead! |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Jun 8 14:03:13 2012, in response to Re: Poll - Who should win the R211 contract?, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Fri Jun 8 08:23:15 2012. Well Hyundai is making the Silverliner Vs. |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Jun 8 14:05:12 2012, in response to Re: Poll - Who should win the R211 contract?, posted by mtk52983 on Fri Jun 8 10:14:14 2012. You beat me to that one. There may be others who disagree with me, but I think that Budd was the best stainless steel railcar manufacturer in the business. Look at the R-32s. |
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Posted by Mark S. Feinman on Fri Jun 8 14:17:08 2012, in response to Poll - Who should win the R211 contract?, posted by Pink Jazz on Thu Jun 7 18:24:20 2012. Boeing. They need to diversify.--Mark |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Jun 8 14:38:59 2012, in response to Re: Poll - Who should win the R211 contract?, posted by Mark S. Feinman on Fri Jun 8 14:17:08 2012. Great! That's all NYCT needs is to have a fleet as trouble prone as the Boeing LRVs that ran in Boston and San Francisco. |
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Posted by blue8irt on Fri Jun 8 14:41:23 2012, in response to Poll - Who should win the R211 contract?, posted by Pink Jazz on Thu Jun 7 18:24:20 2012. Hyundai of Philly. ;) |
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Posted by Wado MP73 on Fri Jun 8 15:17:54 2012, in response to Re: Poll - Who should win the R211 contract?, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Thu Jun 7 21:37:45 2012. No thanks. They're slow in providing replacement parts and discontinue them as they please. I don't think any railway in Japan will procure them again. |
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Posted by Mr. D - Type on Fri Jun 8 16:56:49 2012, in response to Re: Poll - Who should win the R211 contract?, posted by randyo on Fri Jun 8 14:02:04 2012. I have always had good luck with Ford products, both in business & personal vehicles. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jun 8 17:54:45 2012, in response to Re: Poll - Who should win the R211 contract?, posted by William A. Padron on Fri Jun 8 08:30:58 2012. Heh. R-16's. They kinda lost their way by then. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Jun 8 17:59:15 2012, in response to Re: Poll - Who should win the R211 contract?, posted by randyo on Fri Jun 8 14:02:04 2012. that may have been so in the 50s or 60s but I've never had a significant problem with the 3 fords that I've owned. |
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Posted by Gold_12TH on Fri Jun 8 18:26:59 2012, in response to Poll - Who should win the R211 contract?, posted by Pink Jazz on Thu Jun 7 18:24:20 2012. China CNR Corporation Limited |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Fri Jun 8 18:30:43 2012, in response to Re: Poll - Who should win the R211 contract?, posted by CJ on Thu Jun 7 22:20:41 2012. Everybody needs to fire up their WayBak Machines, all those companies went bye-bye long ago. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Fri Jun 8 18:34:45 2012, in response to Re: Poll - Who should win the R211 contract?, posted by merrick1 on Fri Jun 8 07:51:59 2012. Perley Thomas hasn't built a streetcar since NO got theirs. Just School Buses. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Fri Jun 8 18:36:13 2012, in response to Re: Poll - Who should win the R211 contract?, posted by randyo on Fri Jun 8 14:05:12 2012. Budd is out of the rail business for years. |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Jun 8 19:27:51 2012, in response to Re: Poll - Who should win the R211 contract?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jun 8 17:54:45 2012. However, the IRT R-26s and 28s were made by ACF and did quite well lasting into the 21 Century as redbirds. |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Jun 8 19:30:42 2012, in response to Re: Poll - Who should win the R211 contract?, posted by Dan Lawrence on Fri Jun 8 18:36:13 2012. We all know that but several posters have jokingly brought up railcar manufacturers that have long bit the dust like Jewett an Perley-Thomas to name a few. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jun 8 19:35:31 2012, in response to Re: Poll - Who should win the R211 contract?, posted by randyo on Fri Jun 8 19:27:51 2012. You know I had to get my door stall and happy motors in there. :) |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Fri Jun 8 19:42:28 2012, in response to Re: Poll - Who should win the R211 contract?, posted by randyo on Fri Jun 8 14:38:59 2012. Remember, concurrent w/ the LRVs Boeing was also building cars for CTA most of which IINM are still in service. While they are scheduled to go when the 5xxxs are delivered by Bombardier. |
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Posted by CJ on Fri Jun 8 19:45:59 2012, in response to Re: Poll - Who should win the R211 contract?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jun 8 17:54:45 2012. It's kind of upsetting the R16s's last years they weren't cleaned up like the R10s were in their final years of service. Oh speaking of R16s this year will mark the 25th anniversary of the last run of the R16 cars. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jun 8 19:54:05 2012, in response to Re: Poll - Who should win the R211 contract?, posted by CJ on Fri Jun 8 19:45:59 2012. The 16's were the bad news bears of subway cars ... fortunately only had a few of them during my time stuck in the middle of some QB's. In all sincerity, I'm surprised they ran as long as they did. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Fri Jun 8 19:56:20 2012, in response to Re: Poll - Who should win the R211 contract?, posted by randyo on Fri Jun 8 14:05:12 2012. no surprise, they were the pioneer and held the patyent on welding stainless. Mafersa in Brazil was a licensee(sigle level commuter coaches for VRE later sold to ConnDoT IIRC. IINM at least one group of either C or M cars for MNCR were bodies by Budd but GE the contractor/vendor of record. Interesting that in recent publicity at GE Transportation about expanding business no word about any cars or EMUs. |
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Posted by J trainloco on Fri Jun 8 20:55:47 2012, in response to Re: Poll - Who should win the R211 contract?, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Fri Jun 8 19:56:20 2012. Between Caterpillar and GE, I wish someone would get into the EMU business. |
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