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Anyone know what they're doing on Jamaica Ave. this weekend?

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu May 17 17:06:52 2012

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Dozens of barricades have been dropped off and signs telling folks that there will be no parking during the weekend have just been set up. It's something major. Oh god, please don't tell me they are replacing the track!

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Re: Anyone know what they're doing on Jamaica Ave. this weekend?

Posted by Train2104 on Thu May 17 17:16:51 2012, in response to Anyone know what they're doing on Jamaica Ave. this weekend?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu May 17 17:06:52 2012.

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Steel repair, painting, track work just N of Cypress Hills.

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Re: Anyone know what they're doing on Jamaica Ave. this weekend?

Posted by Fred G on Thu May 17 17:46:03 2012, in response to Anyone know what they're doing on Jamaica Ave. this weekend?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu May 17 17:06:52 2012.

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I dunno what I'm doing cuz I'm not gonna be on Jamaica Avenue. I'll let you know when I'm there lol.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Anyone know what they're doing on Jamaica Ave. this weekend?

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu May 17 22:19:29 2012, in response to Re: Anyone know what they're doing on Jamaica Ave. this weekend?, posted by Train2104 on Thu May 17 17:16:51 2012.

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Thanks.

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Re: Anyone know what they're doing on Jamaica Ave. this weekend?

Posted by Kriston Lewis on Fri May 18 20:09:07 2012, in response to Anyone know what they're doing on Jamaica Ave. this weekend?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu May 17 17:06:52 2012.

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BEEP BEEP BEEP

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RAAAAAAGE: Anyone know what they're doing on Jamaica Ave. this weekend?

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat May 19 13:16:59 2012, in response to Anyone know what they're doing on Jamaica Ave. this weekend?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu May 17 17:06:52 2012.

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Yeah, they ARE replacing track. Worse yet, the have Jamaica completely closed between 86th and 90th. My mother's Access-A-Ride truck can't pick her up, she had to walk two blocks, which for her might as well be 2 miles.

Unacceptable.

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Re: Anyone know what they're doing on Jamaica Ave. this weekend?

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat May 19 13:21:58 2012, in response to Re: Anyone know what they're doing on Jamaica Ave. this weekend?, posted by Kriston Lewis on Fri May 18 20:09:07 2012.

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Re: Anyone know what they're doing on Jamaica Ave. this weekend?

Posted by G1Ravage on Sat May 19 14:07:36 2012, in response to Anyone know what they're doing on Jamaica Ave. this weekend?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu May 17 17:06:52 2012.

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"Structural steel repair and painting."

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Re: RAAAAAAGE: Anyone know what they're doing on Jamaica Ave. this weekend?

Posted by J trainloco on Sat May 19 14:22:37 2012, in response to RAAAAAAGE: Anyone know what they're doing on Jamaica Ave. this weekend?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat May 19 13:16:59 2012.

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Why is that unacceptable? What should they have done instead?

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Re: RAAAAAAGE: Anyone know what they're doing on Jamaica Ave. this weekend?

Posted by R36 #9346 on Sat May 19 15:16:39 2012, in response to Re: RAAAAAAGE: Anyone know what they're doing on Jamaica Ave. this weekend?, posted by J trainloco on Sat May 19 14:22:37 2012.

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They could have allowed traffic on the cross streets to cross Jamaica Avenue. That way, Access-A-Ride vehicles can access people who live on Jamaica Avenue in the affected area without forcing them to walk two blocks to an open street.

Either that, or the Access-A-Ride operators should have anticipated the street closure and equipped each vehicle with a wheelchair… just in case.

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Re: RAAAAAAGE: Anyone know what they're doing on Jamaica Ave. this weekend?

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat May 19 15:39:46 2012, in response to Re: RAAAAAAGE: Anyone know what they're doing on Jamaica Ave. this weekend?, posted by R36 #9346 on Sat May 19 15:16:39 2012.

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No, what they should have done is what they did 2 years ago when they were replacing the Jamaica-bound track: ban parking and run through traffic on the opposite side of the road. The way they did it today is just not acceptable.

I lodged a complaint with the usual suspects.

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Re: RAAAAAAGE: Anyone know what they're doing on Jamaica Ave. this weekend?

Posted by J trainloco on Sat May 19 15:45:50 2012, in response to Re: RAAAAAAGE: Anyone know what they're doing on Jamaica Ave. this weekend?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat May 19 15:39:46 2012.

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Ah, okay.

So cross street traffic was blocked as well? Sounds excessive.

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Re: RAAAAAAGE: Anyone know what they're doing on Jamaica Ave. this weekend?

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat May 19 15:52:11 2012, in response to Re: RAAAAAAGE: Anyone know what they're doing on Jamaica Ave. this weekend?, posted by J trainloco on Sat May 19 15:45:50 2012.

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Yes. Only the shuttle buses and the 56 can proceed through the construction zone. 86th was closed north of Jamaica because that's where the crane and flatbed containing the track panels is. 87th, 88th and 89th are all closed crossing Jamaica.

The most annoying aspect is that all the work right now is between 88th and 89th. There's no need to have 87th and 88th closed in any way.

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Re: RAAAAAAGE: Anyone know what they're doing on Jamaica Ave. this weekend?

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat May 19 15:52:29 2012, in response to Re: RAAAAAAGE: Anyone know what they're doing on Jamaica Ave. this weekend?, posted by J trainloco on Sat May 19 15:45:50 2012.

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Yes. Only the shuttle buses and the 56 can proceed through the construction zone. 86th was closed north of Jamaica because that's where the crane and flatbed containing the track panels is. 87th, 88th and 89th are all closed crossing Jamaica.

The most annoying aspect is that all the work right now is between 90th and 89th. There's no need to have 87th and 88th closed in any way.

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Re: RAAAAAAGE: Anyone know what they're doing on Jamaica Ave. this weekend?

Posted by J trainloco on Sat May 19 15:54:31 2012, in response to Re: RAAAAAAGE: Anyone know what they're doing on Jamaica Ave. this weekend?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat May 19 15:52:29 2012.

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If buses can go through, access-a-ride should be allowed as well!

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Re: RAAAAAAGE: Anyone know what they're doing on Jamaica Ave. this weekend?

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat May 19 19:34:53 2012, in response to Re: RAAAAAAGE: Anyone know what they're doing on Jamaica Ave. this weekend?, posted by J trainloco on Sat May 19 15:54:31 2012.

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Access-A-Ride drivers are not smart enough to ask.

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Re: Anyone know what they're doing on Jamaica Ave. this weekend?

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat May 19 19:35:31 2012, in response to Re: Anyone know what they're doing on Jamaica Ave. this weekend?, posted by G1Ravage on Sat May 19 14:07:36 2012.

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Nope. Track panel replacement. They are directly in front of my apartment as I speak.

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Re: Anyone know what they're doing on Jamaica Ave. this weekend?

Posted by G1Ravage on Sat May 19 20:40:57 2012, in response to Re: Anyone know what they're doing on Jamaica Ave. this weekend?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat May 19 19:35:31 2012.

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THE GENERAL ORDER LIES!

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Re: Anyone know what they're doing on Jamaica Ave. this weekend?

Posted by Joe V on Sat May 19 20:41:28 2012, in response to Re: Anyone know what they're doing on Jamaica Ave. this weekend?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat May 19 19:35:31 2012.

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Did the track really need replacement ? Ride seemed pretty smooth when I rode it 2 months ago.

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Re: Anyone know what they're doing on Jamaica Ave. this weekend?

Posted by TERRapin station on Sun May 20 11:23:48 2012, in response to Re: Anyone know what they're doing on Jamaica Ave. this weekend?, posted by G1Ravage on Sat May 19 20:40:57 2012.

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Or Chris could be wrong....

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Re: RAAAAAAGE: Anyone know what they're doing on Jamaica Ave. this weekend?

Posted by TERRapin station on Sun May 20 11:25:19 2012, in response to RAAAAAAGE: Anyone know what they're doing on Jamaica Ave. this weekend?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat May 19 13:16:59 2012.

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If you had license and a car and child car seats you could driven her!!!!!

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Re: Anyone know what they're doing on Jamaica Ave. this weekend?

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun May 20 12:53:12 2012, in response to Re: Anyone know what they're doing on Jamaica Ave. this weekend?, posted by G1Ravage on Sat May 19 20:40:57 2012.

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Track panel replacement question

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun May 20 12:57:08 2012, in response to Anyone know what they're doing on Jamaica Ave. this weekend?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu May 17 17:06:52 2012.

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As I watch them install new track panels in front of my house this weekend, I noticed something, or I noticed a LACK of something. How, exactly are the track panels attached to the el structure? I assume they were bolted, but it looks to me as if the tracks are simply laid down on the supports and just sit there on top of it.

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Re: Track panel replacement question

Posted by randyo on Sun May 20 13:27:38 2012, in response to Track panel replacement question, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun May 20 12:57:08 2012.

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The tracks are bolted down from the underside of the ties so you might not have been able to see that work being done.

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Re: Track panel replacement question

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun May 20 13:34:32 2012, in response to Re: Track panel replacement question, posted by randyo on Sun May 20 13:27:38 2012.

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All the work I see is done from the top. BTW, they were gonna get nearly the entire track from Woodhaven to FPway done in just one weekend. That's pretty fast.

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Re: Track panel replacement question

Posted by G1Ravage on Sun May 20 14:12:34 2012, in response to Re: Track panel replacement question, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun May 20 13:34:32 2012.

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I wonder if they're putting in that new track with the springy-looking supports. Those tracks are mad smooth and quiet. You might be very happy with it.

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Re: Track panel replacement question

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun May 20 14:23:05 2012, in response to Re: Track panel replacement question, posted by G1Ravage on Sun May 20 14:12:34 2012.

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Yep. Welding the joints as well. I expect a significantly different sound when trains start running again tonight.

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Re: Anyone know what they're doing on Jamaica Ave. this weekend?

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun May 20 16:53:01 2012, in response to Re: Anyone know what they're doing on Jamaica Ave. this weekend?, posted by Joe V on Sat May 19 20:41:28 2012.

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The last major track panel job I remember on this particular stretch of track was in the late 80's. I remember specifically because the crane and flatbed was parked on my block and it accidentally hit our building. My landlord was MAD. This time, they didn't hit our building, but they did knock over the street lamp post directly infront of it.

The upside to all this: my apartment smells of creosote. Call me funny, but I like that odor. It reminds of the subway back in the 70's, when every station reeked of it.

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Re: Anyone know what they're doing on Jamaica Ave. this weekend?

Posted by Elkeeper on Sun May 20 16:59:47 2012, in response to Re: Anyone know what they're doing on Jamaica Ave. this weekend?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun May 20 16:53:01 2012.

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Maybe they are putting in an express track!

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Re: Track panel replacement question

Posted by G1Ravage on Sun May 20 19:05:58 2012, in response to Re: Track panel replacement question, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun May 20 14:23:05 2012.

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Take video.

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Re: Anyone know what they're doing on Jamaica Ave. this weekend?

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun May 20 20:18:09 2012, in response to Re: Anyone know what they're doing on Jamaica Ave. this weekend?, posted by Elkeeper on Sun May 20 16:59:47 2012.

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I wish.

They are all done now, waiting for the test train before the resume service.

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Re: Track panel replacement question

Posted by TERRapin station on Sun May 20 21:06:58 2012, in response to Re: Track panel replacement question, posted by G1Ravage on Sun May 20 19:05:58 2012.

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Have we ever seen photos or videos taken from his apartment windows?

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Re: Track panel replacement question

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon May 21 12:36:40 2012, in response to Re: Track panel replacement question, posted by G1Ravage on Sun May 20 19:05:58 2012.

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My camera's video capabilities are limited.

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Re: Track panel replacement question

Posted by Mark S. Feinman on Mon May 21 14:06:13 2012, in response to Re: Track panel replacement question, posted by randyo on Sun May 20 13:27:38 2012.

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They're called "J-bolts, I believe.

--Mark

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Wake up. Look out window. See this. What do?

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jun 2 11:22:09 2012, in response to Anyone know what they're doing on Jamaica Ave. this weekend?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu May 17 17:06:52 2012.

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They're BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK:





Upon closer inspection, I'm not the only person who found this photo-worthy:



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Re: Wake up. Look out window. See this. What do?

Posted by Train2104 on Sat Jun 2 12:22:35 2012, in response to Wake up. Look out window. See this. What do?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jun 2 11:22:09 2012.

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June 23-24 is another weekend of trackwork on this line (and the M too)

Plus, that weekend, from 5AM Sat to 9AM Sun, there is no (2) service between 3 Av and 135 St...never seen that before.

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Re: Wake up. Look out window. See this. What do?

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jun 2 12:24:47 2012, in response to Re: Wake up. Look out window. See this. What do?, posted by Train2104 on Sat Jun 2 12:22:35 2012.

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Normally they divert the #2 via Lexington Ave when they need to work there. So the #2 is terminating at 135th?

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Re: Wake up. Look out window. See this. What do?

Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sat Jun 2 12:32:39 2012, in response to Wake up. Look out window. See this. What do?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jun 2 11:22:09 2012.

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That EL is looking nice and fresh, new paint, new tracks, etc.

Its almost like a brand new line! Similar to the West End, I can't wait until the fix up the Culver EL.

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Re: Wake up. Look out window. See this. What do?

Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sat Jun 2 12:35:38 2012, in response to Re: Wake up. Look out window. See this. What do?, posted by Train2104 on Sat Jun 2 12:22:35 2012.

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Maybe they need to do work on that line between the 3rd Ave - 149th area?

When I was last up there I was wondering what type of G.O they must set up if that area needs work.

Same goes for X switches on trunk lines in Manhattan.

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Re: Wake up. Look out window. See this. What do?

Posted by Joe V on Sat Jun 2 12:47:18 2012, in response to Wake up. Look out window. See this. What do?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jun 2 11:22:09 2012.

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If they plce panel track up there, how do they stagger the joints ?
I know in the 1960's and 1970's, half the Bway-Jamaica line, and a lot of other els, did not have staggered joints.

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Re: Wake up. Look out window. See this. What do?

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jun 2 12:57:37 2012, in response to Re: Wake up. Look out window. See this. What do?, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sat Jun 2 12:32:39 2012.

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After today absolutely every piece of infrastructure except the steel supports will have been completely replaced on the segment that runs past my house since 1988.

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Re: Wake up. Look out window. See this. What do?

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jun 2 13:10:14 2012, in response to Wake up. Look out window. See this. What do?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jun 2 11:22:09 2012.

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Just wanna give a shout out to the guys doing the work THIS week for letting my mother's Access-A-Ride bus through the area so she could be picked up in front of the apartment.

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Re: Wake up. Look out window. See this. What do?

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jun 2 13:14:01 2012, in response to Re: Wake up. Look out window. See this. What do?, posted by Joe V on Sat Jun 2 12:47:18 2012.

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Good question. Since the joints are now welded, I suppose this isn't an issue anymore. The track they are removing is also spiked, but I know it was replaced in 88. Maybe they still spiked them that late.

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Re: Wake up. Look out window. See this. What do?

Posted by SLRT on Sat Jun 2 13:18:46 2012, in response to Wake up. Look out window. See this. What do?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jun 2 11:22:09 2012.

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Dang! Looks like they're building a roller coaster.


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Re: Wake up. Look out window. See this. What do?

Posted by Andrew Saucci on Sat Jun 2 13:21:47 2012, in response to Wake up. Look out window. See this. What do?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jun 2 11:22:09 2012.

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Stay inside. Don't go out in the street underneath cranes and moving sections of railroad tracks. Relax and go back to sleep or post on SubChat.

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Re: Wake up. Look out window. See this. What do?

Posted by chud1 on Sat Jun 2 13:43:29 2012, in response to Wake up. Look out window. See this. What do?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jun 2 11:22:09 2012.

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excellent pics.
chud1

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Re: Anyone know what they're doing on Jamaica Ave. this weekend?

Posted by Elkeeper on Sat Jun 2 14:00:16 2012, in response to Re: Anyone know what they're doing on Jamaica Ave. this weekend?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu May 17 22:19:29 2012.

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Aw shucks, no third track?

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Re: Wake up. Look out window. See this. What do?

Posted by (4) Lexington Av Exp on Sat Jun 2 14:09:29 2012, in response to Re: Wake up. Look out window. See this. What do?, posted by Train2104 on Sat Jun 2 12:22:35 2012.

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This weekend the (4)'s not running between 161 (relay at 167) and Woodlawn. The G.O. will also occur two weekends from now (not next weekend because the Yankees are in town next week)

FASTRACK's coming back soon on top of that starting on the 11th..

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Re: Wake up. Look out window. See this. What do?

Posted by Train2104 on Sat Jun 2 19:09:35 2012, in response to Re: Wake up. Look out window. See this. What do?, posted by (4) Lexington Av Exp on Sat Jun 2 14:09:29 2012.

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I had a look at the trackmap...

-How are they going to turn the (2) at 3 Av? The crossover is between 3 Av and 149 St, so if they were using that then there's not reason why they couldn't turn trains at 149th St.

-If the (4) has to go north of 167th to relay, why can't they terminate at 167 instead of 161?

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Re: Wake up. Look out window. See this. What do?

Posted by G1Ravage on Sat Jun 2 20:59:19 2012, in response to Re: Wake up. Look out window. See this. What do?, posted by Train2104 on Sat Jun 2 19:09:35 2012.

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The work is being done AT 149 Street - Grand Concourse. No trains can pass through. The (2) will terminate at Third Avenue - 149 Street via a single-track operation either to or from Jackson Avenue.

(2) trains from Brooklyn are running to Harlem - 148 Street.

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