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Posted by Joe V on Fri Apr 13 20:35:15 2012, in response to Re: R16 Scenes, posted by Ble-nimx on Fri Apr 13 19:54:29 2012. Nine car trains of what at Fresh Pond ? |
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Posted by Ble-nimx on Fri Apr 13 20:38:01 2012, in response to Re: R16 Scenes, posted by Joe V on Fri Apr 13 20:35:15 2012. R21 scrap storage |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Apr 14 07:52:51 2012, in response to Re: R16 Scenes, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Apr 13 17:46:49 2012. Me either. There was no "subtalk" or anything back then, anything that was news you had to figure out yourself. I remember when I "missed" the R30's (red), and was so happy to find them on the Rockaway line. I didn't know they were going either, and I went with some friends to the beach, and when we got off, I snapped this photo:Little did I know this would be the last time I would ever ride one. They too were such a big part of anyone that grew up on the Eastern Division. When the R16's went "missing", I just assumed they were out getting repainted like the R10's. I had no idea they were being cut up. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Apr 14 07:55:29 2012, in response to Re: R16 Scenes, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Apr 13 19:24:16 2012. I used to love the R10's in the Rockaway line. They ran on the C to Bedford Park Blvd back then.There was nothing better than riding one of them on the Rockaway line....with all the windows and doors open, fans whirling, and the sea air. I can still hear than clickity clank. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Apr 14 07:57:07 2012, in response to Re: R16 Scenes, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Apr 13 15:51:22 2012. There were no extensions on on any of the Myrtle stations north of Broadway, the concrete platform is the same age as the rest of the station, and is all original construction. |
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Posted by chud1 on Sat Apr 14 09:25:59 2012, in response to Re: R16 Scenes, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Apr 14 07:52:51 2012. excellent picture.chud1 |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Apr 14 10:08:23 2012, in response to Re: R16 Scenes, posted by randyo on Fri Apr 13 16:06:26 2012. Six-car trains of BMT standards seemed to be the norm on the Three Stooges Division. Every Larry train of standards that I ever rode on was six cars long. I would imagine they may have run three-car trains during the late hours. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Apr 14 10:10:28 2012, in response to Re: R16 Scenes, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Apr 13 20:04:04 2012. Piece of cake.:) |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Apr 14 10:13:59 2012, in response to Re: R16 Scenes, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Apr 14 07:52:51 2012. The R-16s essentially went full circle. They started and ended their careers on the Three Stooges Division. Makes you wonder how they would have fared had they never left that territory. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Apr 14 10:15:21 2012, in response to Re: R16 Scenes, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Apr 14 10:08:23 2012. The Bway Bklyn locals were often 5 cars, either Standards or R16's. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Apr 14 16:51:54 2012, in response to Re: R16 Scenes, posted by Joe V on Sat Apr 14 10:15:21 2012. You had more flexibility with single cars, as was the case with the R-16s. With the BMT standards, one B unit and two A cars did the trick. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Apr 15 04:19:13 2012, in response to Re: R16 Scenes, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Apr 14 10:08:23 2012. The norm for the 14 St Line was either 6 steels or 2 Multi units. There were, however 2 intervals in the rush that were scheduled to operate as 8 steels. According to BMT old timers I worked with, those intervals were usually made with 3 Multi units and were referred to as "Queen Marys." The jamaica Line ran with 8 steels in the peak and 6 steels in the shoulder and off peak. Myrtle/Chambers ran with 6 steels during the rush and 3 steels off peak and Saturdays till the Multis were assigned there after 1956 when the norm was 2 Multis during the rush and 1 Multi unit midday and Saturdays until the Saturday Myrtle/Chambers service was eliminated circa 1960. I even recall riding a midday 3 car Myrtle/Chambers train of R-16s around 1960 or so. Midnight service on 14 St was a single Multi unit and on the Jamaica Line it was a 3 car B unit of steels. After the R-16s became the principal equipment on the Jamaica Line and the Multis were transferred to Myrtle/Chambers, midnight service on the 14 St Line was a single 3 car B unit of steels and Jamaica midnight service was 3 R-16s. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Apr 15 04:21:47 2012, in response to Re: R16 Scenes, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Apr 14 07:57:07 2012. However, strange as it may seem, all of the Myrtle stations north (RR SOUTH) of Bway except for Met could hold 8 steels. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Apr 15 04:24:41 2012, in response to Re: R16 Scenes, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Apr 13 20:04:04 2012. I not only frequented Met prior to working for the TA but I worked out of there for most of the summer of 1969 and I can assure you that the platform at Met could NOT old 8 steels. If you are talking about 60 footers, that's a different story. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Apr 15 04:26:41 2012, in response to Re: R16 Scenes, posted by Joe V on Fri Apr 13 17:10:39 2012. When the late Trainmaster George Abere was a M/M on the Jamaica Line,. I clocked him at a full 60 MPH between E/Pky and Myrtle on the express. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Apr 15 04:30:38 2012, in response to Re: R16 Scenes, posted by randyo on Sun Apr 15 04:24:41 2012. Yep ... arnines. That's how I ended up out there and it was amusing how many wigs and wiglets had to show up to turn my D train around. :) |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 15 06:14:11 2012, in response to Re: R16 Scenes, posted by randyo on Sun Apr 15 04:21:47 2012. Not strange....they most definitely were set up for the old BMT "standard" (pun intended)....8 car 67 foot trains. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Apr 15 17:34:12 2012, in response to Re: R16 Scenes, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 15 06:14:11 2012. What is strange about it is that Met was not extended to accommodate the train lengths that the intermediate stations could. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 15 19:00:40 2012, in response to Re: R16 Scenes, posted by randyo on Sun Apr 15 17:34:12 2012. Metropolitan burned in the 70's and when rebuilt, it was rebuilt to the length of the trains the line ran at the time....8 car, 60 foot trains... |
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Posted by GIS Man on Mon Apr 16 12:25:22 2012, in response to Re: R16 Scenes, posted by Elkeeper on Thu Apr 12 14:49:06 2012. And an occasional "10" or "16" in the early 1960's.Bob |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Apr 16 19:18:23 2012, in response to Re: R16 Scenes, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 15 19:00:40 2012. True, But as I have said before in many of my posts, even the old unrebuilt Met could not hold 8 steels. I worked out of there as a C/R, M/M and T/D prior to the fire and when the M line was extended to 8 cars, they just fit in the station. |
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