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Myrtle-Willoughby (G Line)

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Mar 28 19:45:27 2012

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Was the Willoughby Ave. entrance/exit ever open?

I started raillfanning around 1965, rode the G to high school 1967-1971, started working for my present employer in late 1979 and never remember that part of the station available.

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Re: Myrtle-Willoughby (G Line)

Posted by Edwards! on Wed Mar 28 20:37:12 2012, in response to Myrtle-Willoughby (G Line), posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Mar 28 19:45:27 2012.

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yes.it was closed during the 70's service cuts...i believe 76-77.

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Re: Myrtle-Willoughby (G Line)

Posted by gbs on Thu Mar 29 00:54:50 2012, in response to Re: Myrtle-Willoughby (G Line), posted by Edwards! on Wed Mar 28 20:37:12 2012.

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That station should finally be officially re-named "Myrtle Av". Leave the pretty mosaics alone, but change the column signs and map names. (Does the R160 refer to both names? If so, change that too.)

It's ridiculous to keep the "Willoughby" in the name when that end has been abandoned for decades.

The true "Myrtle-Willoughby" station is Jay St, with entrances and exits on both of those streets (and Fulton St too).

Many if not most IND stations have/had two or more entrances, yet their names usually included only one of the street names. Some exceptions, like Bedford-Nostrand (G) exist, but both of those ends are still active.

Can anyone explain why 174-175 St and 182-183 St (B,D) are called that, but 46 St (M,R) is not called 46-48 St?

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Re: Myrtle-Willoughby (G Line)

Posted by Edwards! on Thu Mar 29 01:42:11 2012, in response to Re: Myrtle-Willoughby (G Line), posted by gbs on Thu Mar 29 00:54:50 2012.

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true indeed.

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Re: Myrtle-Willoughby (G Line)

Posted by Wado MP73 on Thu Mar 29 01:49:13 2012, in response to Re: Myrtle-Willoughby (G Line), posted by gbs on Thu Mar 29 00:54:50 2012.

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I sometimes tell my son "We're getting of at Willoughby", when we're going to Jay St. He had a hard time getting to sleep when he saw that TZ episode for the first time but now can take the joke.

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Re: Myrtle-Willoughby (G Line)

Posted by randyo on Thu Mar 29 15:28:35 2012, in response to Re: Myrtle-Willoughby (G Line), posted by gbs on Thu Mar 29 00:54:50 2012.

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The reason that the Concourse stations have the double names is due to the unique nature of the line and the street itself. Several cross streets pass under the Concourse rather than being at the same level with the Concourse so that at the stations, you mentioned, passengers go upstairs to access the street while the other end of the station while still underground passengers go downstairs to access the cross street.

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Re: Myrtle-Willoughby (G Line)

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Mar 29 16:03:19 2012, in response to Re: Myrtle-Willoughby (G Line), posted by gbs on Thu Mar 29 00:54:50 2012.

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It's ridiculous to keep the "Willoughby" in the name when that end has been abandoned for decades.

There are LOTS of stations where this is the case. Junius St for example. The long closed Junius St mezzanine has been closed for eons, and the Powell St entrance is used. There are many more.

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Re: Myrtle-Willoughby (G Line)

Posted by randyo on Thu Mar 29 16:55:25 2012, in response to Re: Myrtle-Willoughby (G Line), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Mar 29 16:03:19 2012.

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AFAIK, W 4 St never had an entrance or exit at W 4 St itself. The original station signs read "West 4th Street Waverly Place" and there is an entrance near Waverly Place.

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Re: Myrtle-Willoughby (G Line)

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Mar 29 21:19:45 2012, in response to Re: Myrtle-Willoughby (G Line), posted by Edwards! on Wed Mar 28 20:37:12 2012.

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Thanks.

The service cuts in the mid 70's included stuff like the AA
eliminated during the midnight hours with the A going local and the GG being cut back to Queens Plaza evenings and midnights.

Becasue of this fewer motormen and conductors were needed, so some to them were temporarily assigned as token clerks and bus drivers.

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Re: Myrtle-Willoughby (G Line)

Posted by Edwards! on Thu Mar 29 22:13:06 2012, in response to Re: Myrtle-Willoughby (G Line), posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Mar 29 21:19:45 2012.

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Dont forget the B and N both becoming Brooklyn only 36th st shuttles overnight.

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Re: Myrtle-Willoughby (G Line)

Posted by gbs on Thu Mar 29 23:28:31 2012, in response to Re: Myrtle-Willoughby (G Line), posted by randyo on Thu Mar 29 15:28:35 2012.

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Both 174 and 175 Streets pass under the Concourse via beautiful arches, without intersecting it. At each end of the 174-175 station, going upstairs takes you only to the Concourse, not to either cross-street. Going down at the south end takes you to 174 St; going down at the north end is no longer possible, but it used to take you to 175 St.

That still doesn't explain the dual station name, even when both ends were fully open. They could have chosen one street name and still had both exits, like at most IND stations.

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Re: Myrtle-Willoughby (G Line)

Posted by Elkeeper on Sat Mar 31 15:19:37 2012, in response to Re: Myrtle-Willoughby (G Line), posted by Wado MP73 on Thu Mar 29 01:49:13 2012.

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"Willoughby, next stop, Willoughby!" The golden age of TV!

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Re: Myrtle-Willoughby (G Line)

Posted by italianstallion on Sat Mar 31 19:52:49 2012, in response to Re: Myrtle-Willoughby (G Line), posted by gbs on Thu Mar 29 00:54:50 2012.

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Regarding 174-175 St and 182-183 Sts, in both stations neither of the cross streets is a real major street.

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Re: Myrtle-Willoughby (G Line)

Posted by gbs on Sat Mar 31 21:34:42 2012, in response to Re: Myrtle-Willoughby (G Line), posted by italianstallion on Sat Mar 31 19:52:49 2012.

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Neither is 46 St or 48 St in Astoria. They could have chosen one street for the station name, and kept both exits at each station.

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Re: Myrtle-Willoughby (G Line)

Posted by Wado MP73 on Sun Apr 1 17:27:42 2012, in response to Re: Myrtle-Willoughby (G Line), posted by Elkeeper on Sat Mar 31 15:19:37 2012.

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Interestingly, fifth graders like to talk about shows way before their time. But maybe I was like that too. Just don't call me Olog. lol

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Re: Myrtle-Willoughby (G Line)

Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Apr 1 17:43:41 2012, in response to Re: Myrtle-Willoughby (G Line), posted by Wado MP73 on Thu Mar 29 01:49:13 2012.

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one of the great episodes

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Re: Myrtle-Willoughby (G Line)

Posted by Elkeeper on Sun Apr 1 21:17:54 2012, in response to Re: Myrtle-Willoughby (G Line), posted by Wado MP73 on Sun Apr 1 17:27:42 2012.

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I remember seeing that episode when it was first shown! Rod Serling was the best!!! Not like the crap we have on network TV today!

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