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Re: Euclid Ave Platforms (Back to 1904 with Post-War IND)

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 30 14:57:14 2012, in response to Re: Euclid Ave Platforms (Back to 1904 with Post-War IND), posted by J trainloco on Mon Jan 30 14:48:02 2012.

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...and where will the current freight trains that use the line between Fresh Pond and Jamaica go?

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Re: Euclid Ave Platforms

Posted by GIS Man on Mon Jan 30 16:14:30 2012, in response to Re: Euclid Ave Platforms, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Jan 29 10:58:16 2012.

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A 1944 Hagstrom Atlas shows the IND and BMT sharing the Culver Line between Ditmas Av and Coney Island.

Bob

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Re: Euclid Ave Platforms (Back to 1904 with Post-War IND)

Posted by J trainloco on Mon Jan 30 17:13:29 2012, in response to Re: Euclid Ave Platforms (Back to 1904 with Post-War IND), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 30 14:57:14 2012.

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In the proposal, I stated that the cars would share tracks with freight trains wherever necessary. However, Lower Montauk is wide enough that it could accommodate more than two tracks.

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Re: Euclid Ave Platforms

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jan 30 17:19:31 2012, in response to Re: Euclid Ave Platforms, posted by Avid Reader on Fri Jan 27 16:03:31 2012.

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If the Fort Hamilton Parkway branch to SI had been built, 7th Ave would have been the transfer point between these trains and the Culver line. Maybe that played a part in the design.

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Re: Euclid Ave Platforms

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jan 30 17:21:41 2012, in response to Re: Euclid Ave Platforms, posted by N6 Limited on Sat Jan 28 22:28:07 2012.

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Yes, 7th Ave and 9th St. Sorry for the confusion.

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Re: Euclid Ave Platforms (Back to 1904 with Post-War IND)

Posted by Edwards! on Mon Jan 30 17:31:55 2012, in response to Re: Euclid Ave Platforms (Back to 1904 with Post-War IND), posted by J trainloco on Mon Jan 30 14:48:02 2012.

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Its been tried..back in 92 i believe..

The bypass should be along the LIRR MAIN LINE...to the Montauk branch to the Jamaica line.

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Re: Euclid Ave Platforms (Back to 1904 with Post-War IND)

Posted by J trainloco on Mon Jan 30 17:39:13 2012, in response to Re: Euclid Ave Platforms (Back to 1904 with Post-War IND), posted by Edwards! on Mon Jan 30 17:31:55 2012.

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I'm proposing the Lower Montauk because it goes through an area that doesn't have subway service already. This 'express' would have some stops east of Metropolitan ave, then non-stop to a new el following the Montauk cutoff, afterward diving down to the 63rd tunnel. I'm not so sure that routing is ok, but I can't think of another routing to manhattan.

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Re: Euclid Ave Platforms (Back to 1904 with Post-War IND)

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 30 17:51:23 2012, in response to Re: Euclid Ave Platforms (Back to 1904 with Post-War IND), posted by J trainloco on Mon Jan 30 17:39:13 2012.

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It's wide enough in some areas, but not wide enough in others, such as the viaduct in Richmond Hill being one example.

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Re: Euclid Ave Platforms (Back to 1904 with Post-War IND)

Posted by Edwards! on Mon Jan 30 18:28:35 2012, in response to Re: Euclid Ave Platforms (Back to 1904 with Post-War IND), posted by J trainloco on Mon Jan 30 17:39:13 2012.

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I know what your saying..but you know like I do..the TA tried that..and those folks came out in droves saying how the line would ruin their nab..how they would lay across the row all that crazy nimby crap..

It would be an EXCELLENT ROW for new subway service..but if you can get past the crazies..i all for it.

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