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Amtrak Quiz time...

Posted by aaron on Thu Jan 26 21:10:58 2012

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...I was at meeting in Philly today and got dropped off in Trenton at 16:00. I had to be back at NYP at 17:30 so my only option was Amtrak train 94, Regional Service. I bought a ticket and the fare was:

A) $40
B) $57
C) $67
D) $77

Answer tomorrow (Friday)

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Re: Amtrak Quiz time...

Posted by chuchubob on Fri Jan 27 08:34:12 2012, in response to Amtrak Quiz time..., posted by aaron on Thu Jan 26 21:10:58 2012.

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D) $77

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Re: Amtrak Quiz time...

Posted by Avid Reader on Fri Jan 27 11:12:31 2012, in response to Amtrak Quiz time..., posted by aaron on Thu Jan 26 21:10:58 2012.

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E) Arm and Leg

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Re: Amtrak Quiz time...

Posted by aaron on Fri Jan 27 20:27:20 2012, in response to Amtrak Quiz time..., posted by aaron on Thu Jan 26 21:10:58 2012.

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The correct answer is "D"...$77. No wonder Amtrak has so many problems. That was highway robbery.

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Re: Amtrak Quiz time...

Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Fri Jan 27 21:29:59 2012, in response to Re: Amtrak Quiz time..., posted by aaron on Fri Jan 27 20:27:20 2012.

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The correct answer is "D"...$77. No wonder Amtrak has so many problems.

Well then, either Amtrak needs to:

a) receive more in terms of subsidy
b) cut operating costs in terms of operating practices, energy consumption, and wages for employees

That was highway robbery.

And yet, the train isn't empty...

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Re: Amtrak Quiz time...

Posted by Train2104 on Fri Jan 27 21:58:29 2012, in response to Re: Amtrak Quiz time..., posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Fri Jan 27 21:29:59 2012.

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Amtrak is increasing fares slowly yet continuously to maximize revenue knowing their services are in high demand. So far, for MOST routes, including the Northeast, passenger counts are not dropping by any significant amount. California is the exception, Pacific Surfliner has lost quite a bit of riders since the last hike.

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Re: Amtrak Quiz time...

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Jan 27 22:06:36 2012, in response to Re: Amtrak Quiz time..., posted by aaron on Fri Jan 27 20:27:20 2012.

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They need to make a cheaper class of service... throw two commuter style cars like MultiLevels onto each train and charge chinabus rates for those cars. Do not allow access to cafe car (or even other cars, put up that metal door on the first amfleet).

They'll be rolling in the dough.

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Re: Amtrak Quiz time...

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jan 28 04:01:51 2012, in response to Re: Amtrak Quiz time..., posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Jan 27 22:06:36 2012.

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Oh? Is any other commuter railroad so "rolling" with their cheaper fares . . . ?

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Re: Amtrak Quiz time...

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Jan 28 14:32:00 2012, in response to Re: Amtrak Quiz time..., posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jan 28 04:01:51 2012.

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Amtrak has the rail monopoly, so of course not.

But, if the cost/income ratio of 2 full cars of people paying $20/seat from NY to Philly on a train that was doing that anyway with a crew that was doing that anyway is actually worse than not doing it at all, then we should get rid of the NEC and pave it over with a busway, because it would be proof that buses are far more cost effective at transporting people.

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Re: Amtrak Quiz time...

Posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Jan 28 14:41:51 2012, in response to Re: Amtrak Quiz time..., posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Jan 27 22:06:36 2012.

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Sounds good enough. But of course we do have a classless society in this country...

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Re: Amtrak Quiz time...

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jan 28 14:51:15 2012, in response to Re: Amtrak Quiz time..., posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Jan 28 14:32:00 2012.

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But they're not. And those buses don't have any safety overlords looking at their operations. Never mind the buses never doing average speeds of 70 mph or faster.

It's got nothing to do with monopoly. All due to FRA regulations that aren't to do with safety.

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Re: Amtrak Quiz time...

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Jan 28 14:57:55 2012, in response to Re: Amtrak Quiz time..., posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jan 28 14:51:15 2012.

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There's no way to make those FRA regulations go away though. So unfortunately, in the US, I guess it is true. Trains are less cost effective than buses, and the Northeast would be better served with a busway.

This sucks.

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Re: Amtrak Quiz time...

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jan 28 15:05:58 2012, in response to Re: Amtrak Quiz time..., posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Jan 28 14:57:55 2012.

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There's no way to make those FRA regulations go away though

There's always a way. Claiming that there is not is claiming that the constitution's been done away with.

And if people are still riding Amtrak, turning the NEC into a busway will not be more cost-effective at all, as you're trying to define cost-effectiveness (most likely the $77 per head for NYP-PHL is designed to keep room on the train for people bound for BAL and WAS; and if you buy online, it's way cheaper than $77 OW); buses that are supposedly more "cost-effective" than trains don't run on busways, remember, so they don't pay the full cost of their infrastructure by a long shot.

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Re: Amtrak Quiz time...

Posted by WillD on Sat Jan 28 16:18:13 2012, in response to Re: Amtrak Quiz time..., posted by aaron on Fri Jan 27 20:27:20 2012.

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Why? It's a last minute fare on the most heavily traveled portion of that train's route. They should soak last minute travelers for every penny they can get along that portion so as to alleviate their 'many problems', most of which are caused by chronic underfunding.

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Re: Amtrak Quiz time...

Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Sat Jan 28 17:11:46 2012, in response to Re: Amtrak Quiz time..., posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jan 28 14:51:15 2012.

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All due to FRA regulations that aren't to do with safety.

You're right. I want cokehead engineers to be able to blow past red signals on crap track at 150 mph...

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