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Posted by Grand Concourse on Sun Jul 24 00:25:13 2011, in response to Re: WMATA Temporarily Allows Bottled Water Consumption on Board Trains, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Sat Jul 23 19:53:05 2011. +1 |
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Posted by Forest Glen on Sun Jul 24 00:26:42 2011, in response to Re: WMATA Temporarily Allows Bottled Water Consumption on Board Trains, posted by Grand Concourse on Sun Jul 24 00:25:13 2011. incorrect |
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Posted by Euclid Avenue A Train on Sun Jul 24 01:00:14 2011, in response to WMATA Temporarily Allows Bottled Water Consumption on Board Trains, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sat Jul 23 14:36:59 2011. Valley Metro Buses and Metro Light Rail Policy from ValleyMetro.org(Policy may be altered for contractors that operate outside The City Of Phoenix Contracts) You may bring your drink on the bus/Light Rail if it is in an approved, covered plastic container. (Hard Plastic Beverage cup (Super Tanker) with Lid, Commuter Metal Coffee Container, Plastic Bottle Water/Soda/Juice/Milk with Screw On or Sports Lid) |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Sun Jul 24 01:33:09 2011, in response to Re: WMATA Temporarily Allows Bottled Water Consumption on Board Trains, posted by Forest Glen on Sun Jul 24 00:26:42 2011. Yes, god forbid anyone should be allowed a sip of water on a long commute home... |
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Posted by Forest Glen on Sun Jul 24 01:39:04 2011, in response to Re: WMATA Temporarily Allows Bottled Water Consumption on Board Trains, posted by Grand Concourse on Sun Jul 24 01:33:09 2011. There's a difference between a sip of water and coffee that becomes sticky when it spills and the spill dries. The food and beverage ban has kept rats out of the DC Metro. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Sun Jul 24 01:46:21 2011, in response to Re: WMATA Temporarily Allows Bottled Water Consumption on Board Trains, posted by Forest Glen on Sun Jul 24 01:39:04 2011. Then what about this Would you still be against this? |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Jul 24 02:21:18 2011, in response to Re: WMATA Temporarily Allows Bottled Water Consumption on Board Trains, posted by BMTLines on Sat Jul 23 20:50:05 2011. The station is located on DoD property, they set the rules, not WMATA. You have 85 other stations to photograph at legally. I thought you said you respected military photo bans, because this is one. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Jul 24 02:23:41 2011, in response to Re: WMATA Temporarily Allows Bottled Water Consumption on Board Trains, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Sat Jul 23 20:04:31 2011. Because people who ignored the rules after 9/11 started leaving their trash on the trains (since the trash cans were removed for awhile) which made the mess far more visible. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Jul 24 02:23:59 2011, in response to Re: WMATA Temporarily Allows Bottled Water Consumption on Board Trains, posted by TheGreatOne2k9 on Sat Jul 23 19:24:25 2011. Why should those things be allowed? Allow those and you might as well allow everything. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Jul 24 02:24:57 2011, in response to Re: WMATA Temporarily Allows Bottled Water Consumption on Board Trains, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Sat Jul 23 20:08:53 2011. I do appreciate the fact that SEPTA adjusted their policy so that I can enjoy a covered beverage and a snack to keep me going on my 2.5 hr journey home (or when I am out and about exploring the city).Does that apply to all SEPTA modes or just Regional Rail? In the case of Regional Rail, it makes sense to me, it is commuter rail. But WMATA is a subway at the end of the day, it has a different situation IMO. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Jul 24 02:26:45 2011, in response to Re: WMATA Temporarily Allows Bottled Water Consumption on Board Trains, posted by Grand Concourse on Sun Jul 24 01:46:21 2011. Forest Glen is right on this one. One of the largest "small" expenses that transit systems face is extermination costs due to termites and such attracted to rail yards by food and other messes left by passengers on board, as well as other associated cleaning costs. WMATA pays much less for these incidentals than peer systems on account of the eating and drinking ban. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Jul 24 02:27:12 2011, in response to Re: WMATA Temporarily Allows Bottled Water Consumption on Board Trains, posted by Forest Glen on Sun Jul 24 01:39:04 2011. And once you allow water, unfortunately, people will start bringing whatever they please. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Jul 24 02:27:54 2011, in response to Re: WMATA Temporarily Allows Bottled Water Consumption on Board Trains, posted by Easy on Sat Jul 23 16:56:29 2011. And it just unravels from there. I prefer the current system, no ambiguous issues, no ways to try sneaking around the rules. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Jul 24 02:30:20 2011, in response to Re: WMATA Temporarily Allows Bottled Water Consumption on Board Trains, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Jul 23 18:59:09 2011. That took long enough, but it isn't like we didn't know you are a racist.I will repeat this again, in a likely to be futile attempt to get you to understand: I will not be arrested because I wouldn't take photos there in the first place. A black person also wouldn't get arrested for taking photos if he or she didn't take photos there in the first place. When you come to understand how the rule of law works and the basic concepts of reward and punishment, perhaps you will encounter fewer problems on your outings. Same goes for eating candy bars and french fries on the system. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 24 03:10:01 2011, in response to Re: WMATA Temporarily Allows Bottled Water Consumption on Board Trains, posted by hank eisenstein on Sat Jul 23 21:42:36 2011. Wrong, Hank. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 24 03:10:39 2011, in response to Re: WMATA Temporarily Allows Bottled Water Consumption on Board Trains, posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Jul 23 19:07:12 2011. This should help you understand.Re: WMATA Temporarily Allows Bottled Water Consumption on Board Trains (1085970) |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Jul 24 03:21:02 2011, in response to Re: WMATA Temporarily Allows Bottled Water Consumption on Board Trains, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Jul 24 02:23:59 2011. Cough drops are MEDICATION, and I would suspect that disallowing a person to take necessary medication would violate federal ADA rules. |
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Posted by LRG5784 on Sun Jul 24 08:26:29 2011, in response to Re: WMATA Temporarily Allows Bottled Water Consumption on Board Trains, posted by Forest Glen on Sun Jul 24 01:39:04 2011. Either way water should not be an issue. With the weather we've had the past week it's dangerous to enter a hot subway station without some form of beverage relief. Hell I'd even allow Gatorade on the trains as well. |
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Posted by BMTLines on Sun Jul 24 08:44:15 2011, in response to Re: WMATA Temporarily Allows Bottled Water Consumption on Board Trains, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Jul 24 02:21:18 2011. It is NOT a military base if the public is allowed access. If it is such a military secret then the station should be closed and no-one allowed access to it.History will NOT be accurate without pictures to document the existence of that station, what it looked like and what equipment passed through it |
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Posted by 5119 on Sun Jul 24 09:10:16 2011, in response to Re: WMATA Temporarily Allows Bottled Water Consumption on Board Trains, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 24 03:10:01 2011. If the air conditioner is running well, I wouldn't need to take water with me. I only ride the Red Line from Rhode Island Avnue to Judiciary Square, which is 3 stops. Those with longer communtes who find themselves in the older 1000 series Rohrs (Some are hot as Hades) would benefit from H20 |
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Posted by 5119 on Sun Jul 24 09:14:01 2011, in response to Re: WMATA Temporarily Allows Bottled Water Consumption on Board Trains, posted by Euclid Avenue A Train on Sun Jul 24 01:00:14 2011. Metro rail cars are currently trashy, with leftover newspapers. If one is allowed water, it should only be bottled. Anything else,juice, soda, whatever, should be barred. |
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Posted by BMTLines on Sun Jul 24 09:16:37 2011, in response to Re: WMATA Temporarily Allows Bottled Water Consumption on Board Trains, posted by 5119 on Sun Jul 24 09:14:01 2011. What is the difference between bottled water and soda in a bottle? |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Jul 24 09:33:47 2011, in response to Re: WMATA Temporarily Allows Bottled Water Consumption on Board Trains, posted by 5119 on Sun Jul 24 09:10:16 2011. Last year, Dr. Gridlock did an informal survey of cars and found the 1000s often had the coolest temps. The 5000s were the worst IIRC. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Jul 24 09:34:14 2011, in response to Re: WMATA Temporarily Allows Bottled Water Consumption on Board Trains, posted by BMTLines on Sun Jul 24 09:16:37 2011. Water makes far less of a mess than anything else when it spills. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Jul 24 09:35:12 2011, in response to Re: WMATA Temporarily Allows Bottled Water Consumption on Board Trains, posted by Euclid Avenue A Train on Sun Jul 24 01:00:14 2011. I don't even know what LA Metro's policy is. I'm pretty sure that you can bring food and drinks on trains as long as you don't eat or drink. They look the other way for water and usually coffee. IMO food and drink (covered) should always be allowed. People buy groceries, prepared food, etc and take it home and I have no problem other than the smell sometimes. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Jul 24 09:36:54 2011, in response to Re: WMATA Temporarily Allows Bottled Water Consumption on Board Trains, posted by BMTLines on Sun Jul 24 08:44:15 2011. Quite a few bases and installations allow some degree of public access for a variety of reasons throughout the DC area.The station is nearly identical to Rosslyn (where photography is permitted). The DC area transit community AFAIK respects and understands the need for heightened security at the Pentagon and we are content to photograph to our heart's content elsewhere. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Jul 24 09:39:29 2011, in response to Re: WMATA Temporarily Allows Bottled Water Consumption on Board Trains, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Jul 24 02:30:20 2011. Maybe he's saying that cops profile. They don't enforce the rule against photography in a vacuum. Perhaps while everyone is told to stop, but maybe an Arab looking guy gets detained and ticketed. |
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Posted by NJCL2308 on Sun Jul 24 09:43:03 2011, in response to Re: WMATA Temporarily Allows Bottled Water Consumption on Board Trains, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Jul 24 09:36:54 2011. Rosslyn *isn't* Pentagon. I don't care if they're exactly the same.Could you, or anyone else on here, please cite the DoD regulation barring photography, and specifically at Pentagon? Is there signage at the station explicitly stating that photography is prohibited? |
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Posted by BMTLines on Sun Jul 24 09:52:27 2011, in response to Re: WMATA Temporarily Allows Bottled Water Consumption on Board Trains, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Jul 24 09:36:54 2011. Since I do not believe that photography in any way shape or form breaches "security", I will never accept bans where the object can be seen by the public. If your eyes can see it then so should your camera. If it is secret then your eyes should not be able to see it. AFAIK no military equipment is stored in that station - the ban is unreasonable.1. My philosophy is simple - if photography is banned then the ban should be challenged (ie. via courts, protests, or civil disobedience or any combination thereof). It is why I would support court challenges against PATH for its photo ban and court challenges against the MTA for banning photography on its bridges or tunnels. 2. If it is not banned then we should constantly fight to maintain that freedom and not anyone to take it away for any reason whatsoever |
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Posted by LRG5784 on Sun Jul 24 09:54:18 2011, in response to Re: WMATA Temporarily Allows Bottled Water Consumption on Board Trains, posted by BMTLines on Sun Jul 24 09:52:27 2011. Pretty good philosophy...I like the way you think. |
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Posted by BMTLines on Sun Jul 24 09:56:14 2011, in response to Re: WMATA Temporarily Allows Bottled Water Consumption on Board Trains, posted by NJCL2308 on Sun Jul 24 09:43:03 2011. I believe there is a sign, but anyone can post a sign that says anything they want it to say. There used to be signs at Union Station DC banning photography till the press exposed them to have no basis in law.Same with the stupid MTA no photo signs on the bridges and tunnels - there is actually no LAW that specifically bans photography but they post them anyway |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Jul 24 10:08:10 2011, in response to Re: WMATA Temporarily Allows Bottled Water Consumption on Board Trains, posted by NJCL2308 on Sun Jul 24 09:43:03 2011. Source: http://cfr.vlex.com/vid/234-15-use-visual-recording-devices-19744461Title 32: National Defense Subtitle A: Department of Defense (Continued) CHAPTER I: OFFICE OF THE SECRETARY OF DEFENSE (CONTINUED) SUBCHAPTER M: MISCELLANEOUS PART 234: CONDUCT ON THE PENTAGON RESERVATION 234.15 - Use of visual recording devices. (a) The use of cameras or other visual recording devices on the Pentagon Reservation is prohibited, unless the use of such items are approved by the Pentagon Force Protection Agency, the Installation Commander, or the Office of the Assistant to the Secretary of Defense for Public Affairs. (b) It shall be unlawful to make any photograph, sketch, picture, drawing, map or graphical representation of the Pentagon Reservation without first obtaining permission of the Pentagon Force Protection Agency, Installation Commander, or the Office of the Assistant to the Secretary of Defense for Public Affairs. The law was changed to permit photography at the 9/11 memorial next to the Pentagon ONLY, nowhere else is photography permitted. That change was described in this Washington Post article from 2008. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Jul 24 10:13:28 2011, in response to Re: WMATA Temporarily Allows Bottled Water Consumption on Board Trains, posted by Easy on Sun Jul 24 09:39:29 2011. WMATAGMOAGH is a white boy who does not get harrassed like black photographers do and has no understanding so he calls me a racistyou cant have it 2 ways wrong |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Jul 24 10:15:29 2011, in response to Re: WMATA Temporarily Allows Bottled Water Consumption on Board Trains, posted by BMTLines on Sun Jul 24 09:56:14 2011. IAWTP |
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Posted by NJCL2308 on Sun Jul 24 10:16:59 2011, in response to Re: WMATA Temporarily Allows Bottled Water Consumption on Board Trains, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Jul 24 10:08:10 2011. Thank you. |
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Posted by NJCL2308 on Sun Jul 24 10:18:34 2011, in response to Re: WMATA Temporarily Allows Bottled Water Consumption on Board Trains, posted by BMTLines on Sun Jul 24 09:52:27 2011. I agree with this post wholeheartedly. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Sun Jul 24 10:20:21 2011, in response to Re: WMATA Temporarily Allows Bottled Water Consumption on Board Trains, posted by BMTLines on Sun Jul 24 09:52:27 2011. Very Good Points... |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jul 24 10:21:18 2011, in response to Re: WMATA Temporarily Allows Bottled Water Consumption on Board Trains, posted by BMTLines on Sun Jul 24 09:56:14 2011. 21 NYCRR (Part 1020)1020.8 Compliance with posted signs. Every motorist and pedestrian using any facility under the jurisdiction and control of the Triborough Bridge and Tunnel Authority shall obey and comply with the provisions of any posted sign on any of its facilities. |
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Posted by BMTLines on Sun Jul 24 10:22:27 2011, in response to Re: WMATA Temporarily Allows Bottled Water Consumption on Board Trains, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jul 24 10:21:18 2011. Oh I know - and that is what they get you on. I guess if they posted a sign that read "Jump Here" everyone would have to obey as well.... |
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Posted by Railman718 on Sun Jul 24 10:22:53 2011, in response to Re: WMATA Temporarily Allows Bottled Water Consumption on Board Trains, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Jul 24 10:13:28 2011. If you want to keep it real people,i can repsect that but there could be a lot of talk behind what you said.Even call you a racist for even saying that. You know this right? Still you spoke your mind. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jul 24 10:25:06 2011, in response to Re: WMATA Temporarily Allows Bottled Water Consumption on Board Trains, posted by BMTLines on Sun Jul 24 10:22:27 2011. What I'm getting at, is that the MTA, like lots of other government agencies, has a bank of crafty lawyers who create these rules and signage, the better to get more money out of you. As Tricky Dicky Nixon once famously remarked, "if the government does it, it's not illegal". |
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Posted by BMTLines on Sun Jul 24 10:25:58 2011, in response to Re: WMATA Temporarily Allows Bottled Water Consumption on Board Trains, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jul 24 10:25:06 2011. You know IAWTP!!!!!!! |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Jul 24 10:26:36 2011, in response to Re: WMATA Temporarily Allows Bottled Water Consumption on Board Trains, posted by Railman718 on Sun Jul 24 10:22:53 2011. i spoke true facts of what happens to me and my mind |
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Posted by Railman718 on Sun Jul 24 10:29:18 2011, in response to Re: WMATA Temporarily Allows Bottled Water Consumption on Board Trains, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Jul 24 10:26:36 2011. Hey im not disputing what you said... |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Jul 24 10:29:38 2011, in response to Re: WMATA Temporarily Allows Bottled Water Consumption on Board Trains, posted by Railman718 on Sun Jul 24 10:29:18 2011. ok thx |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Jul 24 10:48:43 2011, in response to Re: WMATA Temporarily Allows Bottled Water Consumption on Board Trains, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Jul 24 10:13:28 2011. Your racist views and contempt for the law have been well documented in many many threads over the years both here and at SubTalk, and all of this is easily found with a simple Google search (and there is plenty beyond these posts).Example 1 Example 2 Example 3 Example 4 Example 5 Example 6 |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Jul 24 10:59:14 2011, in response to Re: WMATA Temporarily Allows Bottled Water Consumption on Board Trains, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Jul 24 10:48:43 2011. go to hell and stay there WMATAGMOAGH |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Jul 24 11:02:11 2011, in response to Re: WMATA Temporarily Allows Bottled Water Consumption on Board Trains, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Jul 24 10:59:14 2011. Trying to run away from your past? It won't work, it is far too late for that now... |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Jul 24 11:02:43 2011, in response to Re: WMATA Temporarily Allows Bottled Water Consumption on Board Trains, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Jul 24 11:02:11 2011. fuck you you white boy WMATAGMOAGH |
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Posted by Railman718 on Sun Jul 24 11:02:48 2011, in response to Re: WMATA Temporarily Allows Bottled Water Consumption on Board Trains, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Jul 24 10:48:43 2011. Um Example two explain that one, i see nothing racist from what he said. You know you Linked what RonNBayside said right? |
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