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Re: No Future MN New Haven Line Service to Penn Station

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Feb 14 12:36:10 2010, in response to Re: No Future MN New Haven Line Service to Penn Station, posted by trainsarefun on Sat Feb 13 14:39:52 2010.

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FBA/LIC/HPA service was to remain constant, just like NYP service. Essentially, no AM peak hour cuts, just 24 extra trains, and don't quote me on this but I think that of those 24 extra trains it's 6 each for the Ports, 4 each for KO and Babylon, and 1-2 for the other electrified branches excepts WH.

This sounds somewhat excessive.

Remember, the third mainline track is to run express trains. The fact is, and LIRR is very sly about not stating this affirmatively, if they ran skip/stop on the DIVIDE-QUEENS stretch, that third track is unnecessary. The reason why LIRR needs third track on that stretch is that its timetable has very different running times for trains on the stretch. If they went with a uniform running time for all trains on that stretch, no train would catch up to its leader.

The problem with the Main line is that it is used by South Shore diesels which mostly run non stop between Hicksville and Jamaica. That means they cannot share the same track with the regular local trains, which necessitates shutting down the eastbound track for nearly two hours in the morning.

The issue will be whether LIRR can transfer these slots to MNCR without AMTK or NJT objecting. Remember that MTA LIRR's rights are via its predecessors and I don't know what the relevant agreements say.

I don't think Amtrak would care, as long as the total number of combined trains does not increase over the current number of LIRR trains. NJT is basically Amtrak's bitch in this manner and has little say over much of anything.

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