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Re: No Future MN New Haven Line Service to Penn Station |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Sat Feb 13 14:39:52 2010, in response to Re: No Future MN New Haven Line Service to Penn Station, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Feb 13 14:04:30 2010. That means around 30 TPH into each Midtown terminal, minus any diesel trains headed for LIC, which I am sure will see significant reductions once ESA is open.The exact official breakdown was 36 tph NYP/24 tph ESA. FBA/LIC/HPA service was to remain constant, just like NYP service. Essentially, no AM peak hour cuts, just 24 extra trains, and don't quote me on this but I think that of those 24 extra trains it's 6 each for the Ports, 4 each for KO and Babylon, and 1-2 for the other electrified branches excepts WH. Does the LIRR really need 60 TPH into Midtown? No. Even with a third mainline track in Nassau County? Remember, the third mainline track is to run express trains. The fact is, and LIRR is very sly about not stating this affirmatively, if they ran skip/stop on the DIVIDE-QUEENS stretch, that third track is unnecessary. The reason why LIRR needs third track on that stretch is that its timetable has very different running times for trains on the stretch. If they went with a uniform running time for all trains on that stretch, no train would catch up to its leader. I think the LIRR can afford to surrender a dozen or so slots to the New Haven line at Penn Station during rush hours and 2 slots an hour off peak once ESA is ready. I agree that there will be spare capacity. I'm hesitant to offer ballpark numbers because it's unclear that we have enough info. The issue will be whether LIRR can transfer these slots to MNCR without AMTK or NJT objecting. Remember that MTA LIRR's rights are via its predecessors and I don't know what the relevant agreements say. |
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