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Re: Archer Avenue at 20

Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Sun Dec 14 20:27:05 2008, in response to Re: Archer Avenue at 20, posted by trainsarefun on Sun Dec 14 19:46:00 2008.

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Seems like it's ripe for development....

Admittedly, it does, but I'm hesitant about ripping up diminishing small and light industrial areas in NYC. The land may be valuable because it sits next to transit, but it's good to have these areas as they provide blue-collar employment to varying skill levels at varying rates of pay.

True, although the present Q2/3 routing between Jamaica and Hillside Avs use one-way streets

The problem is that you're turning two quiet one-way street pairs into a thoroughfare for buses, since that neighbourhood has limited parking spaces, I'd imagine that the locals would fear losing their spots to a bus stop or for a second lane of traffic. The limited parking is why I gave up on parking my car there to use the F when I used to live in the area. Currently, my brother parks further east around 196th Street or so and takes a bus to Hillside, or I'll park near my grandmother's condo around 215th Street, and that's only in limited cases such as no parking at my home station on the South Shore or if I need to do something in Queens, or if I'm lugging "tourists" with me.

Q75 runs two buses an hour

I had no idea about its low number of buses per hour. Hell, it approaches LI Bus levels of service, and the Q75 isn't running in the middle of nowhere.

I would also hope that it might attract some SE Queens drivers.

Supposedly, a good number of the SE Queens drivers are civil servants who lucked out with placards that give them a de facto ability to park anywhere in Lower Manhattan. One could argue that they'd never turn to transit willingly, but boosting service and providing for a park and ride could help along with seizure of their placards...

Regardless, IMHO, a Belmont Park and Ride probably benefits Elmont residents who ride the bus or drive due to a lack of LIRR options along with some Franklin Square residents in a similar situation. In terms of Queens, the main beneficiaries end up being Cambria Heights as St Albans has its own LIRR station (which could use more service) with Rosedale and Laurelton being in the same situation. It would be interesting if a shuttle bus was run during peak hours to connect with either Belmont or Queens Village.

But feasibly, we're probably talking about a terminal at Queens Village, given the difficulties with QUEENS doing a merge across the entire Main Line.

That's the problem. How can we create a terminal at Queens Village when the world's clunkiest interlocking is behind it while not interfering with railway traffic while switching? One could always turn the Hempstead into a "rapid" LIRR line, but that may be overkill, so that leaves the Belmont spur with matching flying junction or re-designing the entire mainline to Jamaica. Three main line tracks, two tracks for the Hempstead/Rapid Service, and a correcting junction at Hillside or if one of bored, a separate platform area at Jamaica where afterwards the lines diverge appropriately for NYP or Brooklyn, and even that may require grades that LIRR trains may not be able to climb...

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