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Re: Archer Avenue at 20

Posted by trainsarefun on Sun Dec 14 19:46:00 2008, in response to Re: Archer Avenue at 20, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Sun Dec 14 18:37:49 2008.

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Unless you're willing to tear down the warehouses and other industrial structures on Jamaica Avenue, Hillside is still an isolated station with no street access to the north.

Seems like it's ripe for development....

Plus, your routing involves sending the buses down what's essentially a narrow one-way street, and it makes tranfers to the Q17/Q75 a bit more annoying.

True, although the present Q2/3 routing between Jamaica and Hillside Avs use one-way streets. Q17 still runs past 179 St/Hillside Av. Q75 runs two buses an hour, so I doubt that many people are planning a transfer that way, but 179 St is one of the timepoints for that route, so that should help in planning for those who are doing the transfer.

There's a part of me that wants to curse the LIRR for not designing a flying junction at Floral Park and creating a legit four track-two platform station design there to allow for proper transfers. As I once discovered, it's reallying annoying to use the LIRR from Queens Village to go Eastward.

LIRR is very NY-centric. To go east from Queens Village on LIRR, you almost always have to go west to Jamaica first. (The exception involves a change at Floral Park, if that's even possible without several hours of layover).

Belmont would be an interesting point for a P&R and it would end up making the commutes of the LI Bus riders rather shorter in the case of the N1/2/3/6. Queens Village makes the N24 slightly tolerable...

I would also hope that it might attract some SE Queens drivers. But I agree with your general point that it would reduce commuting times. At least if the merge with the Main Line could be made to work out.

But feasibly, we're probably talking about a terminal at Queens Village, given the difficulties with QUEENS doing a merge across the entire Main Line.

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