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Re: Archer Avenue at 20

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Dec 13 22:37:02 2008, in response to Re: Archer Avenue at 20, posted by aem7ac on Sat Dec 13 13:16:07 2008.

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1. Archer Avenue to 168 St. (and beyond)
2. Second Avenue


THat's fine.

. Conversion of LIRR Lower Montauk Branch to the Penn Station/Grand Central trunk line, conversion of the LIRR Main Line to subway.


Impossible. Just about 100% of Long Island's (Nassau, Suffolk, Brooklyn, and Queens) freight service uses, and needs the lower Montauk Branch.
And even forgetting that, the LIRR needs four tracks between Jamaica and Penn Station. There is no way to do that on Lower Montauk.
Dead in the water.

5. 3rd Avenue el in the Bronx


Yes, that should never have been abandoned to begin with.

6. J train to Valley Stream, via Merrick Blvd

The LIRR needs that line. You can't just take trackage away from a commuter RR, and give it to the subway. Alongside, sure. Converted? No way.

7. 7 train to Port Washington

Perhaps. But I don't think they would need "subway" headways east of about Great Neck, and I don't even know if it would be necessary all the way to Great Neck to have "7 train" headways. Not to mention that the 7 trains are packed just coming from Main St. Imagine adding all those more people to it. No way to add that amount of people to the current 7 train.






4. G Train to Broadway-Myrtle


How and why? The line crosses the Bway el at Union Ave (near Lorimer St). The Crosstown line would need to be severed if it was to diverge fo Myrtle and Broadway.

I'd love to see the BMT Eastern Division infrastructure in the Downtown be put to good use. I'm just not sure what one would use it for. Maybe there is some way to route some of the Queens trains over to use the Willy B crossing instead of the congested Queens Blvd trunk. Maybe a junction between the BMT el and the IND at Lorimer St./Broadway


The Nassau line is terribly underutilized. Two tracks (the side currently unused) should have been given over to the second Ave subway. A shame they decided on the Water St alignment.
As for better use of the Williamsburg Bride....extend the V to Metropolitan Ave, and discontinue the M. The J could handle Nassau just fine, and the Myrtle line would run to 6th Ave and Queens Blvd to Forest Hills.




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