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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jun 21 01:39:39 2008, in response to Re: Second Ave Alignment Change, posted by RonInBayside on Sat Jun 21 00:58:14 2008. Ron? I was only a motorman, but MY bet is that the design was allowed to clear interlockings south of the station, perhaps allow a short turn for perhaps the (Q) while the (T) did the "shuttle action" north of there, all sorts of possibilities. Given the limited scope of this project (let's face it, it's no longer than the old Culver shuttle with about as many stops - certainly not a gigantic project like replacing the lower Myrt or 3rd Avenue Bronx El) as a simple two -track system with layup north and a few crossovers, something as significant as a three tracked stop IS a significant thing.Engineers don't put in superfluous things when budget is constrained. First question out of any engineer is "how much you got?" ... sorta like the ER when they ask, "do you have insurance?" In BOTH cases, these two different trade's questions determines where your bed is. :) Bottom line, given the simplicity of the CURRENT design, putting something that "questionable" in the original design is a RED FLAG from an engineer of "required, not optional." Beancounters of course never read the "technical specifications" as they just don't understand them. Been there, done that, became a consultant and now a "lecturer/team-builder." Heh. I won't question you if you take an MRI of a kidney transplant patient, see apparent blurs and possible masses presenting forward of the vertebrae, and tell you that it's costly and inefficient to order a CAT scan for a visual overlay on top of the MRI and it shouldn't be done. Well, it was done anyway, and each of those spots was malignant. I'm SURE you know what I'm talking about. I'm an engineer (I was trained in building small cities out of silicon rather than "structural") myself ... AND I ran trains for a year for a paycheck. Noboyd ever notices the 167th spur on the D, the 72nd turnouts on the IND or myriad other "mysteries" of the system. But if I had a nickel for every time a train I was running went INTO those weird places out of necessity, I'd have a LOT of nickels! :) Bottom line, "gold plating" is done at the CONSULTING level, not where the metal meets the road. I suggest we pursue (along with the Meatball) finding out WHY it's there ... I'm CERTAIN that before it ended up in the blueprints, a "detailed specification" document as well as "fiscal justification" was written up by someone before it ever got "inked in." I think we ALL need to see what the purpose was. I'm CERTAIN that it's more important than any of those cutouts. Hell. If they NEED to save money, repeat the stupidity of the <7> line in failing to build even a SHELL for 10th Avenue. But at least THAT railroad is an open cut ... |
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