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Re: SI residents on MTA Fare Hike

Posted by WillD on Sun Nov 11 01:30:41 2007, in response to Re: SI residents on MTA Fare Hike, posted by R42 4787 on Sat Nov 10 02:42:12 2007.

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Apples and oranges. The San Fran Bay is deeper around the Transbay tube than the Narrows between SI and Brooklyn. This means that there's little or no need for the San Fransisco Bay to be dredged to accomodate larger ships. OTOH the NYC area's very viability as a port rests on its ability to to dredge the harbor to accomodate the ever-growing container ships. Building a cross-harbor tunnel as an immersed tube would effectively put a stranglehold on Port Newark, Bayonne's container port, Howland Hook, and any other remotely useful upland site because they'd never be able to dredge over it.

There'd also be a major issue with possible interference with the proposed NJ-LI Port Authority Tunnel. Getting two immersed tubes to cross in the middle of the bay would be an incredible nightmare. So not only do you now have the useful port areas in NJ restricted to their current 45 foot soundings, but you've effectively killed any chance that Brooklyn can ever make up for that handicap.

In one fell swoop you spent at least 5 billion dollars and killed NYC's viability as an import/export center for the near future. All that to give a whole 450,000 people their precious "express" subway line because they feel they're too good to go through Brooklyn. If the little whining babies on that trash heap otherwise known as Satan Island have to have their subway then lets extend the R via a deep bore and tell them to shut the fuck up.

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