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Re: LIRR East Side Access / Roosevelt Island F Station

Posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Oct 23 15:28:53 2007, in response to Re: LIRR East Side Access / Roosevelt Island F Station, posted by Edwards! on Tue Oct 23 14:57:12 2007.

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You really can't just be moving things around.

IF the Broadway Local were relegated to 60th Street Tunnel, then Astoria becomes a LOCAL route. The Local route uses the Montague Tunnel which is Local on Fourth Avenue. In other words: The Broadway Local *MUST* to to 95th Street if we are to avoid extra switching.

The Broadway Express will use the 63rd Street Tunnel, for to switch LCL / EXP at this point, or any point for that matter, will require extra switching.

So regardless of what you call them: The Broadway Local runs from Astoria to Ft. Hamilton.

So regardless of what you call them: The Broadway Expresses have access only to 63rd Street and the Bridge Lines. Thus the (Q) train, which runs 24/7 does Coney Island to 125th Street on the 2nd. Now where does the (N) Train go? Well, it runs on Sea Beach, it is a Fourth Avenue Express, it bypasses DeKalb, and goes over the bridge.

Now where can it go? It cannot end at 57th Street: that will no longer be a terminal. It cannot go to 60th Street unless you start playing with those switches again. So it goes to 63rd Street, which after all is where the Broadway Express goes, then it is defacto on Queens Boulevard. From there it can be either local or express. But having absconded with the (R) train, the (N) then has to replace that.

The (N) train remains a Coney Island based service.
The (R) remains a Queens based service, they just go out of service at 57th Street and dead heads to Jamaica via 60th Street, probably on the express tracks.

Probably the equipment of the (N) and (R) trains might be fungible, and float between the lines, with some trains using either yard.

ROAR





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