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Posted by MATHA531 on Sun Jul 22 01:34:18 2007, in response to Brooklyn Dodgers (on topic), posted by Dave on Sat Jul 21 18:35:14 2007. Here we go with the revisionist history once again being pushed by several aging members of the imposter organization on the left coast that calls itself the Dodgers in an attempt to get the half human slime ball O'Malley into the baseball Hall of Fame before they pass on (Vin Scully and Tommy Lasorda come to mind).But the HBO documentary is full of half truths. Yes Moses wasn't a baseball person and yes he didn't go out of his way to do O'Malley's bidding for some personal reasons but there are other facts conveniently ignored by HBO and those who are pushing this Bob Moses is the culprit garbage. 1. O'Malley wanted Moses to condemn the land under eminent domain provisions. Like it or not, this was illegal under New York State law as the property was not publically owned as it is today (there was no MTA) but rather was owned by the Pennsylbania Railroad Company of which the LIRR was a subsidiary at the time. To condemn the land would mean taking from the PRR (a private organization) and giving it to the half human O'Malley (another private organization) absolutely illegal under New York State law. 2. Isn't it interesting that O'Malley never offered to trade the land at Ebbets Field to reimburse the city for his brazen land grab yet when he moved his franchise to LA, he exchanged the land where Wrigley Field (LA) was located. 3. O'Malley and his supporters claim how dreadful it was that Ebbets Field only had 700 parking spaces...how many do Wrigley Field and Fenway Park have? They are approximately the same age as Ebbets Field and still going strong today. And if the park had been built at Atlantic and Flatbush, where would the cars have come from; the BQE is about a mile and a half away and is jammed evening rush hours as it is...can you imagine the traffic nightmare of a Friday night Dodger game competing with the rush hour traffic heading home? No a 60,000 seat ball yard would not have been appropriate there. 4. Let's not compare this with the Ratner proposal...today the land is owned by the MTA and emeinent domain of private property is not a factor. 5. The fact is the Brooklyn Dodgers were the second most profitable franchise in baseball still....this despite the fact (or because as the case may be) every home game was on free television for which WOR paid them a pretty penny...plus the mutual savings banks which sponsored Happy Felton's Knothole Gang the pregame show on WOR...and they also televisioned 2/3 of their road games on free television with an additional 11 games in New York carried by channel 11 on the Giant telecasts. Thus 140 of the 154 games were available to Brooklyn fans on television. 6. It is interesting to note that O'Malley claims that he would pay for the construction of the Stadium by taking the games off free television and putting them on pay television; despite the fact the technology was still a generation away. 7. It is clear for the reasons noted above that O'Malley never intended or could not afford to build a ball park...this business about Atlantic & Flatbush was used to try to hide what he set out to do to try to save his image for history. 8. There were better locations in Brooklyn for a ball park. How about Floyd Bennet Field area...of course to get that going the city would have had to fulfill the promise it broke since Brooklyn transit riders were not important to them namely building the Nostrand Avenue and Utica Avenue subways to the ball park. But the area was right off the Belt Parkway. Or there was Coney Island...the success of Keyspan Park makes it very clear this wouldhave been a wonderful location for a major league baseball field with 5 subway lines two blocks away and a short distance from the Belt Parkway. Can you imagine how nice it would be to spend a summer's evening watching the Dodgers play with the cyclone beyond the third base line and the Atlantic beyond right field. 9. It is nonsense that everybody was opposed to Flushing Meadows; it would have made sense for the many Long Island fans to come to the ball yard and for a long time many complained the Mets had a sweetheart deal regarding parking and concessions and keeping the Jets out of Shea Stadium for the first month of the season...while it wasn't the best of solutions, and the half human slime ball clamied this was no good as he couldn't call the team the Brooklyn Dodgers if they played in Queens, nobody ever asked him how he could have continued to call the team the Brooklyn Dodgers playing in la la land. And of course if they had moved to Flushing Meadows, they easily could have moved back to Brooklyn when the Stadium became obsolete as stadiums do in this day and age. 10. The argument that the area around Ebbets Field was becoming a dump? Well what pushed it was the construction of those monstrosities on the land where Ebbets Field stood...there is no reason to say that if Ebbets Field had been refurbished for say a decade while the slime ball waited out Bob Moses if indeed it was Moses' fault, the neighborhood might have suffered the same "fate" as Park Slope less than a mile away where the brownstones are now worth millions. The Crown Heights neighborhood had the same kind of buildings (see Wrigley Field for what can happen to a neighborhood with a ball yard there). 11. Where was the Commissioner of baseball one Ford C. Frick who was supposed to be there to protect the best interests of baseball. It is very obvious that the theft of the Brooklyn franchise was one of the major reasons that mlb went into the tank and the nfl passed it. If what happened to Brooklyn fans who supported the team through thick and thin could occur, then what was it worth to support a baseball team? 12. The issue of major league baseball on the left coast was a completely separate issue. Why shouldn't LA and SF have gotten expansion teams. And as far as the half human slime ball professing his love for Brooklyn, he easily could have done what Art Modell was later to do and leave the name Brooklyn Dodgers where it belonged so when the eventual National League expansion occurred (despite NL President Warren Giles' imbecilic proclamation that the NL did not need a franchise in NY), the name Brooklyn Dodgers could have been restored to its rightful place. 13. Let's bear in mind one thing...there are only 2 municipalities in North America that were totally deprived of major league baseball and never had their teams restored. One is Montreal but then agin they never really supported their team. The other is Brooklyn which was a member of the NL since the 1890's and was always considered a separate baseball city than New York. And even today, Brooklyn is the largest municipality in America (and do remember Brooklyn is a separate political subdivision of New York State with its own Sheriff, its own DA, its own courts and is in a separate federal court district than Manhattan, its own library system) which does not have a major league baseball team and unfortunately because of territorial rights it never will again. And the only person responsible for this is the half human, greedy piece of slime Walter O'Malley. |
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