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Re: How NOT to handle an encounter with police (Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!)

Posted by BMTLines on Thu May 3 14:06:46 2007, in response to How NOT to handle an encounter with police (Re: ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!), posted by railbus63 on Thu May 3 13:07:29 2007.

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You crossed the line when you accused the officers of unreasonable search and seizure when all they were doing was looking at the photos on your camera.

They crossed the line by demanding to see the pictures. Amateur photographers (not just railfans) are very upset over this - it is all over the photography boards and photo magazines. Photography lawyers are advising photogs that they do not have to show their photos without a warrant.

Look at the situation from their point of view - why did you have a problem with them looking at all of your pics? Did you have something on that camera that you didn't want them to see?

What if he did - what if the other pictures were x-rated pics of him and his girlfriend? Still legal but none of anyone's business!!

If they did delete your photos, then they may well say that the photos were still in the camera when they gave it back to you. You have no proof that it was the NYPD that deleted these photos.

Of course they will say that but there are so many similar complaints from photographers throughout the country (again not just railfans) that it will add to the incidents on their record if they have done this before. Eventually the pattern becomes the evidence. These are precisely the types of complaints the NYCLU is looking for to add to its lawsuit.

IMO the goal now is to help the NYCLU win its class action - that is what will make life easier for photographers in the end. Only a court order will stop the NYPD from harassing us.

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