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Re: 93 NEW PHOTOS of the London Underground and National Rail (Was: Cockfosters)

Posted by Max Roberts on Wed Jan 10 05:14:32 2007, in response to Re: 93 NEW PHOTOS of the London Underground and National Rail (Was: Cockfosters), posted by Rail Blue on Tue Jan 9 12:40:32 2007.

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Hmm, well first I note that Birmingham gets a much better service with the tunnel option. Second, you've sneaked some extra Gatwick trains in for the tunnel option, which has inflated the tph somewhat (why not extend the random far north trains at Gatwick?)

So, the tunnel option gives everyone a better service with fewer trains in service. The net result is that everyone gets the same number of trains, or more trains, with the bonus of a convenient through service. Everyone wins.

Going back to my booklet, the intention by BR was not to run all station stoppers south of the river, and then express to the north. Although the tunnel was Euston to Victoria, it was intended to link WCML, MR, ECML to Portsmouth, Southampton, and Brighton (a bit like Thameslink 4000 now, but with long distance services only). Presumably, local services would have continued to terminate at London. The cost of the scheme at 1980 prices was £330m.


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