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Re: London Overground

Posted by David Fairthorne on Thu Sep 7 15:27:44 2006, in response to Re: London Overground, posted by Rail Blue on Thu Sep 7 08:22:10 2006.

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Much of which is easily solveable if you apply some simple rules.

I agree with your ideas in principle, but not entirely in detail.

You don't say if your service plan would run all day (during the peaks and between the peaks), but I guess it would.

I suggest that one of the more useful routes runs from Victoria to London Bridge via Crystal Palace. If you kept that route, and boosted its service, you could get rid of most of the other routes via Crystal Palace. To keep open the other connections to Crystal Palace, I would want Thameslink to run via that route.

I suppose you would discontinue the Thameslink service to Sutton, as 8 tph round that loop would be too much.

You have added a new service from Victoria via Streatham, but I don't think that would be justified, as that area is already well served from Victoria; besides, you would probably create a bottleneck at the flat junction at Herne Hill.

East Croydon is probably not a good place to terminate trains, especially in the peak hours, because it's too busy.

Before commenting on your ideas in more detail, I want to look at the latest Station Working Books, which are online as pdf files at the PRAR site http://www.prar.fsnet.co.uk/diagrams.html. They show the departure times, platform numbers, and rolling stock (with number of cars) of all trains leaving every terminus, along with where they came from and when they arrived.

I am pretty sure that your plan represents a serious increase in overall service, which could cause congestion.

I like Eastfields and Bellingham stations, but I see no reason to close the existing Bellingham station. Crofton Park and Giant Arches are more debatable; there are several other places where you could build interchange stations.

Looking forward to Part II: the Chatham Lines!

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