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"History" Questions on the offset C/R position on 8-car trains

Posted by New Flyer #857 on Fri Mar 27 07:13:50 2026

On the J/M/Z and I presume on the L as well whenever there were 8 car trains using R40/40M/42, as I recall, the C/R was either between the 3rd/4th or the 5th/6th cars, never directly in the middle of the train. Also I'm pretty sure for the J/M/Z it was 3rd/4th car headed west over the Williamsburg Bridge and 5th/6th car headed east. I don't know what the positions were for the L.

Anyway I just wanted to ask how far this goes back in history (does it pre-date the R40?) and are there other lines besides the J/L/M/Z that had similar practices that might be of note? Did they know and plan for the C/R to always be "offset" when these cars were being delivered? Also, can you confirm the accuracy of what I wrote above?

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