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Re: A new topic for discussion, electrification to Port Jeff and Patchague

Posted by WillD on Sun Jun 16 12:48:36 2019, in response to Re: A new topic for discussion, electrification to Port Jeff and Patchague, posted by AlM on Sun Jun 16 12:25:26 2019.

Maybe a decade ago MNRR bought cars for both Hudson/Harlem and New Haven. That would be an apples to apples comparison.

They did. The M7s were $2.5 billion for 1172 railcars. That works out to $2.13 million per car in 2005 dollars.

I never suggested they were twice as expensive.

My mistake, I misread. But still, it cannot be said multivoltage EMUs are in any way more expensive than DC EMUs as the M8s were cheaper than the M7s at the time the orders were placed.

If you double the cost of the cars but halve the cost of the power, it's not clear whether that's a win or a lose. Depends on relative sizes of expenditures.

That might be a valid point to ponder if we were contemplating doubling the cost of the rolling stock. But we're not. There is no clear example of a multisystem EMU costing more than a DC EMU when comparably sized orders are placed.

There's also the extra maintenance cost of having a new type of car to maintain.

Without a doubt. But balanced against that is the ability to eliminate the maintenance of passenger diesels and potentially the C3 cars. The new multisystem EMUs would be likely to have many more components shared with the existing DC fleet than the diesel push pulls ever could.

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