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Re: A new topic for discussion, electrification to Port Jeff and Patchague

Posted by WillD on Sun Jun 16 19:36:59 2019, in response to Re: A new topic for discussion, electrification to Port Jeff and Patchague, posted by AlM on Sun Jun 16 12:59:37 2019.

The Lower Montauk between Jamaica and LIC or the Montauk branch to Montauk? I'll admit I neglected the Lower Montauk, but a few miles of catenary which could likely be tied in to Amtrak's supplies isn't all that significant.

The Montauk branch to the east end of the island is absolutely something I would envision the full electrification of if we are going a more cost effective route. It's the classic case of not justifying the greater expense of 3rd rail, but being well within the point where electrification with catenary makes economic sense. I have been operating under the assumption that if we went with AC electrification every passenger operation on the island would be electrified.

And you still need diesels for power emergencies.

Sure, some work diesels. Maybe NY&A diesels as well. If it really bothers you that much then order the multisystem EMUs with 480 volt plugs to accept HEP from properly equipped work diesels and standard MU plugs if you must do push-pull with them. If a power outage is widespread enough that a load restriction will not get trains through the impacted area then chances are there is no signal power. The LIRR has the means to operate through dark signals, but it's going to be cumbersome. A few HEP equipped work diesels with EMU coaches would likely be almost all the system could handle at that point to run a skeleton service.

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