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Posted by Michael549 on Fri Sep 15 22:28:06 2017, in response to Re: Late Night R to Whitehall St, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Sep 15 15:21:08 2017. From a previous message:"That said, allowing it as a walkway to get to the inside of the ferry terminal would have been nice." This is a suggestion for using the older South Ferry #1 loop station as a passageway into the larger South Ferry/Whitehall Street subway station complex. In my opinion, however useful the older South Ferry #1 loop station maybe as a subway station, there is a much greater LESSER amount of usefulness as a pedestrian passageway. Here's why. The older South Ferry #1 loop station originally had only one entrance - the current center stairway that now leads to a set of turn-styles on the southern western side of the newer Whitehall Ferry Terminal Building. Prior to the building of the current ferry building, the entrance to this station existed under a curving ramp that lead to older 1954 edition of the ferry terminal structure. It was this entrance that was incorporated into the new much larger Whitehall Ferry Terminal Building in 2009, with a attendant booth and turnstyles and an open entrance INSIDE the ferry terminal building. In the early period when the newer ferry terminal building opened incoming ferry riders were directed to the side roadway exits, and had to walk around the outside of the building and re-enter the ground floor level of the ferry terminal to use the #1 subway station. The interior ground level doors that lead directly to the ground floor roadway and ferry docks so that current bike-riders, the wheel-chair bound handicapped can easily board the ferry - was at the time closed off. For about the first year or two after the new ferry terminal opened this policy was in effect. When these doors were opened up, incoming ferry riders could walk directly through the ferry building direct to the #1 train - in an all weather protected environment - that until the newer combined South Ferry Stub Terminal & Whitehall Station opened. Now incoming ferry riders can use these doors to access the interior ground floor level of the terminal, to access the second level of the terminal, or to walk out of the front of the terminal to reach the plaza subway station, bus stops, taxi stands, or to simply leave the building. Using the side roadway exits to walk around the terminal building and to then enter the side subway station entrance, in my opinion, was not such a great advantage! Why, I thought at the time why have an internal entrance - if the riders have to walk inside in all kinds of weather to just use the #1 station. It was really not such a great step up from the #1 terminal being under the curved ramp - where one had to ALWAYS walk outside with ZERO weather protection. The current suggestion to use the older South Ferry #1 loop station as a passageway into the larger South Ferry/Whitehall Street subway station complex - simply just creates a more circuitous route to get to the actual trains that one needs. While the #1 stub terminal was under repair and the #1 loop station was open, one could traverse the complex through the south-east side original loop entrance to the newer larger complex. This very small entrance does not have any Metro-Card machines, or other assistance. This would not be a great improvement. Mike |
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